Tenleytown "The Hobo" Duane presence outside CVS

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

Eh, the behavior was criminal regardless of what you chose to do about it. That’s your business.

I'm more worried about people like you than I am about Duane. You appear to be sane and present sane most of the time, yet you think this way.

Then you must have a lot of anxiety about what the law actually is. Or maybe facts in general.

Not at all. Im worried that you think you know the law and can use it to get rid of anyone you don't like, specifically largely harmless homeless men.

That is the law. You can look it up.

What you do about your anxiety is up to you.

Your gaslighting is not working on me, honey. I know very well what the law is. I'm concerned with how evil you seem to be.

Seems you need to look up gaslighting too.

If you know DC law, you wouldn’t be pushing back on the definition of assault. Pointing out that what you yourself described happening fits that definition and so is criminal behavior is not gaslighting.

You are not talking in this post to the person who described these events; that was me, and I didn’t post the post you’re replying to. I haven’t taken a position on what the law is, just what my interest in filing a police report is.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Actually I stand corrected. I would have seen myself as a crime victim both times. It’s just bizarre that you don’t see this. Seriously. You sound troubled as others have said.

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There should be no beggars, aggressive or not. It is sad that there are no standards anymore. Everyone is ok with observing an unsavory character

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I’m sorry. I was in the wrong post. I’m not the OP of this thread. Im the OP from a similar thread about reckless drivers but it’s all more of the same imo. Sorry about that.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Actually I stand corrected. I would have seen myself as a crime victim both times. It’s just bizarre that you don’t see this. Seriously. You sound troubled as others have said.

Tell me you don’t know what assault means without telling me you don’t know what assault means.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Actually I stand corrected. I would have seen myself as a crime victim both times. It’s just bizarre that you don’t see this. Seriously. You sound troubled as others have said.

Tell me you don’t know what assault means without telling me you don’t know what assault means.

Scroll up. We aren’t going through this again. Any number of crimes were committed in both incidents PP described but as my Grandma told me - you can’t argue with stupid.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Yes, I have kids. Obviously I’d react differently if this happened to my kid.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Yes, I have kids. Obviously I’d react differently if this happened to my kid.

Why would that make a difference?

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Anonymous wrote:This is how you get repeat public-disorder offenders off the streets: enforce the laws already on the books.

It does not usually start with one major felony. It starts with the smaller crimes everyone ignores: disorderly conduct, obstruction, trespass, threats, littering, animal cruelty, leaving out harmful items to injure animals, and repeated harassment.

Call every time. Document every incident. Get video when safe. Identify witnesses. Push for every charge that fits. Each arrest, citation, stay-away order, failure to appear, or probation violation builds the record.

If police consistently enforced these existing laws against repeat offenders, neighborhoods would be safer. Ignoring “minor” crimes lets the behavior escalate. Enforcing them early creates the paper trail needed to detain, restrict, prosecute, and eventually remove dangerous or disruptive people from the street.

D.C. laws that may apply:

D.C. Code § 22-1321 - Disorderly Conduct
D.C. Code § 22-1307 - Crowding, Obstructing, or Incommoding
D.C. Code § 22-407 - Threats to Do Bodily Harm
D.C. Code § 22-1810 - Threatening Injury or Property Damage
D.C. Code § 22-404 - Assault / Threatened Assault
D.C. Code § 22-1001 - Cruelty to Animals
D.C. Code § 22-3302 - Unlawful Entry / Trespassing
D.C. Municipal Regulations Title 21, Chapter 7 - Littering / Solid Waste
D.C. Code § 22-405.01 - Resisting Arrest
Court Orders - Stay-Away Orders, Release Violations, Failure to Appear, Probation Violations

Cannot imagine calling the police every time a mentally unwell person has made a vague vocal threat to do me bodily harm. Who would that actually help?

You are part of the problem report them all. DC should reward those who report these crimes and give an additional bonus for each of these criminals taken off the street and incarcerated for a year

Yelling something obnoxious at me is not a crime though.

U don't make the laws but it is

Yeah, I'm sure the police in DC has nothing better to do than respond to a call about a homeless man yelling. Get over yourself.

This attitude is why crime is so hight, the debate here is wild. Kind of like telling someone who got sexually assaulted to wear a burka.

hahahahahahahaha NO.

You have to be a true lunatic to equate rape to some homeless guy yelling in your direction. This is why no one takes your seriously.

no society should accept threatening yelling towards others as ok behavior but it sounds like this lovely gentleman is also breaking multiple other laws, so he should be thrown the book

No society, but especially a society as wealthy as the one we live in should accept this many homeless individuals on the streets. We have failed in every single way. We don't treat our veterans when they come back from war and they end up on the street. We do not take care of kids in foster care and they end up on drugs and on the streets. We do not take care of people with severe mental health issues. We have collectively decided that guns are more important than our children. YET, we seem SO EFFING surprised when we see people like Duane yelling at folks. So yeah, go ahead and call the police. They'll take him for the night and you'll feel so proud of yourself. But he will be back on his corner in a day.

They don't want to be helped so they should be helped to jail

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Yes, I have kids. Obviously I’d react differently if this happened to my kid.

Why would that make a difference?

Because it’s easy for me to dismiss something that happened to myself as no big deal — I was there and I experienced it. If someone came up to my kid and hit them out of nowhere I’d find that far more alarming.

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Anonymous wrote:There should be no beggars, aggressive or not. It is sad that there are no standards anymore. Everyone is ok with observing an unsavory character

A DC lobbyist is more of an “unsavory character” in both deed and scale and yet you have never made a DCUM post against a lobbyist.

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Anonymous wrote:This is how you get repeat public-disorder offenders off the streets: enforce the laws already on the books.

It does not usually start with one major felony. It starts with the smaller crimes everyone ignores: disorderly conduct, obstruction, trespass, threats, littering, animal cruelty, leaving out harmful items to injure animals, and repeated harassment.

Call every time. Document every incident. Get video when safe. Identify witnesses. Push for every charge that fits. Each arrest, citation, stay-away order, failure to appear, or probation violation builds the record.

If police consistently enforced these existing laws against repeat offenders, neighborhoods would be safer. Ignoring “minor” crimes lets the behavior escalate. Enforcing them early creates the paper trail needed to detain, restrict, prosecute, and eventually remove dangerous or disruptive people from the street.

D.C. laws that may apply:

D.C. Code § 22-1321 - Disorderly Conduct
D.C. Code § 22-1307 - Crowding, Obstructing, or Incommoding
D.C. Code § 22-407 - Threats to Do Bodily Harm
D.C. Code § 22-1810 - Threatening Injury or Property Damage
D.C. Code § 22-404 - Assault / Threatened Assault
D.C. Code § 22-1001 - Cruelty to Animals
D.C. Code § 22-3302 - Unlawful Entry / Trespassing
D.C. Municipal Regulations Title 21, Chapter 7 - Littering / Solid Waste
D.C. Code § 22-405.01 - Resisting Arrest
Court Orders - Stay-Away Orders, Release Violations, Failure to Appear, Probation Violations

Cannot imagine calling the police every time a mentally unwell person has made a vague vocal threat to do me bodily harm. Who would that actually help?

You are part of the problem report them all. DC should reward those who report these crimes and give an additional bonus for each of these criminals taken off the street and incarcerated for a year

Yelling something obnoxious at me is not a crime though.

U don't make the laws but it is

Yeah, I'm sure the police in DC has nothing better to do than respond to a call about a homeless man yelling. Get over yourself.

This attitude is why crime is so hight, the debate here is wild. Kind of like telling someone who got sexually assaulted to wear a burka.

hahahahahahahaha NO.

You have to be a true lunatic to equate rape to some homeless guy yelling in your direction. This is why no one takes your seriously.

no society should accept threatening yelling towards others as ok behavior but it sounds like this lovely gentleman is also breaking multiple other laws, so he should be thrown the book

No society, but especially a society as wealthy as the one we live in should accept this many homeless individuals on the streets. We have failed in every single way. We don't treat our veterans when they come back from war and they end up on the street. We do not take care of kids in foster care and they end up on drugs and on the streets. We do not take care of people with severe mental health issues. We have collectively decided that guns are more important than our children. YET, we seem SO EFFING surprised when we see people like Duane yelling at folks. So yeah, go ahead and call the police. They'll take him for the night and you'll feel so proud of yourself. But he will be back on his corner in a day.

They don't want to be helped so they should be helped to jail

Jail is unethical when used for non violent individuals.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Yes, I have kids. Obviously I’d react differently if this happened to my kid.

Why would that make a difference?

Because it’s easy for me to dismiss something that happened to myself as no big deal — I was there and I experienced it. If someone came up to my kid and hit them out of nowhere I’d find that far more alarming.

Yeah, but you still wouldn't call the police.

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Anonymous wrote:I had heard there were online apologists for DC street crime, like the issue with overmoderated dc subreddits, but this thread is the first time I’ve seen them live! Wow, just wow.

Someone hit you, unprovoked, in a public place, and you didn’t call the police, and you’re proud of it? My goodness. You’re crazier than your assailant.

So you wanted me to stay downtown, call police, wait for them to show up, and give a report where the only information I could give about the suspect was his gender and race and which direction he had been going however long before the cops got there, instead of just going about my business and going home? I wasn’t injured at all and there was no way they were going to make an arrest. Calling the police would have just been punishing myself for having it happen by wasting my time.

NP. Not sure I would have called the police either but I certainly wouldn’t be touting that this as acceptable or ok and anyone who says otherwise is a “racist” who “should just move if they don’t like it.” Such a pathetic and immature response. And it does sound like something is wrong with you. I think you need to find a therapist stat.

I never said anyone who said otherwise was a racist or that people should move. (I didn’t even say what race the guy was.) I didn’t say it wad acceptable or okay, I just said sometimes things can be upsetting or scary and that doesn’t mean you have to call the police about it.

I do see that other people in this thread are saying the things you’re quoting, but I can’t be responsible for their comments.

FWIW I also didn’t call police after a garbage truck swung its door open as it passed me while I rode my bike to work once years ago and the employees laughed — because it didn’t hit me (though it scared me pretty badly) and I didn’t get its license plate number. I don’t see the point in calling police if there’s no chance they’ll make an arrest.

You don't seem to be able to tell the difference between assault and every day events.

This was not assault, they tried to hit me but didn’t.

If it scared you as you said, it’s assault. The person who actually hit you? That’s battery. Whether you pursued a complaint in either incident is a different question.

Eh, I tend to think “no harm no foul” is a fine policy on whether to call police and that being scared is not sufficient harm to bother, especially if — as I said — the prospect of an arrest is basically nil. I certainly don’t think of myself as a crime victim after either incident.

OP here. Do you have kids? I can’t wait to see how you feel once you decide to raise kids in this city. If someone did this to your kid ( or if the stoned out losers ran stop signs or blew through red lights while your kids are in the back street) I guarantee you’d start to think differently. I was you once. Now I’ve had enough.

Yes, I have kids. Obviously I’d react differently if this happened to my kid.

Why would that make a difference?

Because it’s easy for me to dismiss something that happened to myself as no big deal — I was there and I experienced it. If someone came up to my kid and hit them out of nowhere I’d find that far more alarming.

Yeah, but you still wouldn't call the police.

If someone hit my kid out of nowhere I would definitely call the police. I still wouldn’t really expect that they’d be able to make an arrest based on a description with almost no identifying info, but I certainly wouldn’t brush it off.