Tenleytown "The Hobo" Duane presence outside CVS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like his mental health issue is stable. He's not a problem unless you do something to set him off.

Trying to kill dogs is not a problem?

How do you know he’s trying to kill dogs as opposed to just … eating the chicken and dropping the bones on the ground? He does seem kind of unpleasant but I don’t think he’s doing anything illegal.

Dropping the bones on the ground is littering. Urinating in a public parking lot is indecency or public exposure. Yes, I know, the trash can is too far away. CVS won't let him use the bathroom. Always an excuse.

Do yo really think DC police is going to arrest someone for loitering or peeing in public? They don’t arrest people committing assault!

Look - I get he’s been unpleasant to OP but there is nothing in what he’s done that will get him arrested.

He’s the manifestation of the boiling frog theory. Look the other way at the homeless guy pan handling, he is usually harmless. Look the other way at the kids smoking weed, in the WF parking garage, we were kids too. Look the other ways at the people jumping the metro turnstiles, it should be free anyway. And eventually you going to have gunshots in broad daylight in Tenleytown and Friendship heights.

That's just gang violence. Nothing to do with you. You are in more danger in rural America.

The two shootings that occurred yards from where I shop almost daily and my kid plays baseball several times a week has nothing to do with me? The crime apologists in DC are next level.

"Sounds like city living might not be for you."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is how you get repeat public-disorder offenders off the streets: enforce the laws already on the books.

It does not usually start with one major felony. It starts with the smaller crimes everyone ignores: disorderly conduct, obstruction, trespass, threats, littering, animal cruelty, leaving out harmful items to injure animals, and repeated harassment.

Call every time. Document every incident. Get video when safe. Identify witnesses. Push for every charge that fits. Each arrest, citation, stay-away order, failure to appear, or probation violation builds the record.

If police consistently enforced these existing laws against repeat offenders, neighborhoods would be safer. Ignoring “minor” crimes lets the behavior escalate. Enforcing them early creates the paper trail needed to detain, restrict, prosecute, and eventually remove dangerous or disruptive people from the street.

D.C. laws that may apply:

D.C. Code § 22-1321 - Disorderly Conduct
D.C. Code § 22-1307 - Crowding, Obstructing, or Incommoding
D.C. Code § 22-407 - Threats to Do Bodily Harm
D.C. Code § 22-1810 - Threatening Injury or Property Damage
D.C. Code § 22-404 - Assault / Threatened Assault
D.C. Code § 22-1001 - Cruelty to Animals
D.C. Code § 22-3302 - Unlawful Entry / Trespassing
D.C. Municipal Regulations Title 21, Chapter 7 - Littering / Solid Waste
D.C. Code § 22-405.01 - Resisting Arrest
Court Orders - Stay-Away Orders, Release Violations, Failure to Appear, Probation Violations

Broken windows policing was proven to be a failure 25 years ago. We aren’t bringing it back.

I’m sure you can find studies on both sides of broken windows. But anyone who spent time in NYC in the 90’s and early 20s knows what the real answer is. It was a glorious decade in Gotham.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is how you get repeat public-disorder offenders off the streets: enforce the laws already on the books.

It does not usually start with one major felony. It starts with the smaller crimes everyone ignores: disorderly conduct, obstruction, trespass, threats, littering, animal cruelty, leaving out harmful items to injure animals, and repeated harassment.

Call every time. Document every incident. Get video when safe. Identify witnesses. Push for every charge that fits. Each arrest, citation, stay-away order, failure to appear, or probation violation builds the record.

If police consistently enforced these existing laws against repeat offenders, neighborhoods would be safer. Ignoring “minor” crimes lets the behavior escalate. Enforcing them early creates the paper trail needed to detain, restrict, prosecute, and eventually remove dangerous or disruptive people from the street.

D.C. laws that may apply:

D.C. Code § 22-1321 - Disorderly Conduct
D.C. Code § 22-1307 - Crowding, Obstructing, or Incommoding
D.C. Code § 22-407 - Threats to Do Bodily Harm
D.C. Code § 22-1810 - Threatening Injury or Property Damage
D.C. Code § 22-404 - Assault / Threatened Assault
D.C. Code § 22-1001 - Cruelty to Animals
D.C. Code § 22-3302 - Unlawful Entry / Trespassing
D.C. Municipal Regulations Title 21, Chapter 7 - Littering / Solid Waste
D.C. Code § 22-405.01 - Resisting Arrest
Court Orders - Stay-Away Orders, Release Violations, Failure to Appear, Probation Violations

Cannot imagine calling the police every time a mentally unwell person has made a vague vocal threat to do me bodily harm. Who would that actually help?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like his mental health issue is stable. He's not a problem unless you do something to set him off.

Trying to kill dogs is not a problem?

How do you know he’s trying to kill dogs as opposed to just … eating the chicken and dropping the bones on the ground? He does seem kind of unpleasant but I don’t think he’s doing anything illegal.

Dropping the bones on the ground is littering. Urinating in a public parking lot is indecency or public exposure. Yes, I know, the trash can is too far away. CVS won't let him use the bathroom. Always an excuse.

Do yo really think DC police is going to arrest someone for loitering or peeing in public? They don’t arrest people committing assault!

Look - I get he’s been unpleasant to OP but there is nothing in what he’s done that will get him arrested.

He’s the manifestation of the boiling frog theory. Look the other way at the homeless guy pan handling, he is usually harmless. Look the other way at the kids smoking weed, in the WF parking garage, we were kids too. Look the other ways at the people jumping the metro turnstiles, it should be free anyway. And eventually you going to have gunshots in broad daylight in Tenleytown and Friendship heights.

That's just gang violence. Nothing to do with you. You are in more danger in rural America.

Just gang violence? Have you ever heard of getting caught in the crossfire? It happened to the daughter of acquaintance who was home on a break from college. It has everything to do with you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like his mental health issue is stable. He's not a problem unless you do something to set him off.

Trying to kill dogs is not a problem?

How do you know he’s trying to kill dogs as opposed to just … eating the chicken and dropping the bones on the ground? He does seem kind of unpleasant but I don’t think he’s doing anything illegal.

Dropping the bones on the ground is littering. Urinating in a public parking lot is indecency or public exposure. Yes, I know, the trash can is too far away. CVS won't let him use the bathroom. Always an excuse.

Do yo really think DC police is going to arrest someone for loitering or peeing in public? They don’t arrest people committing assault!

Look - I get he’s been unpleasant to OP but there is nothing in what he’s done that will get him arrested.

He’s the manifestation of the boiling frog theory. Look the other way at the homeless guy pan handling, he is usually harmless. Look the other way at the kids smoking weed, in the WF parking garage, we were kids too. Look the other ways at the people jumping the metro turnstiles, it should be free anyway. And eventually you going to have gunshots in broad daylight in Tenleytown and Friendship heights.

It's true, and it starts even more broadly. People going even one mph above the speed limit are breaking the law and should have the book thrown at them like the criminals they are. Didn't fully stop behind the line at a stop sign? Have fun in court you degenerate.

Yes, let’s enforce the traffic laws too. Let’s enforce all the laws. See how easy that was?

If someone wants to enforce the laws, let's start with the president. Then go on down. Why should people be locked for throwing bones on the ground and peeing behind a dumpter, while 3 miles away POTUS is selling state secrets and ripping off taxpayers? The latter hurts me, and you, much worse.

I'm only pointing this out because a whole lot of people on this thread want the police to tackle some crime, but not all.

Yes, because federal crimes are within MPD’s jurisdiction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is how you get repeat public-disorder offenders off the streets: enforce the laws already on the books.

It does not usually start with one major felony. It starts with the smaller crimes everyone ignores: disorderly conduct, obstruction, trespass, threats, littering, animal cruelty, leaving out harmful items to injure animals, and repeated harassment.

Call every time. Document every incident. Get video when safe. Identify witnesses. Push for every charge that fits. Each arrest, citation, stay-away order, failure to appear, or probation violation builds the record.

If police consistently enforced these existing laws against repeat offenders, neighborhoods would be safer. Ignoring “minor” crimes lets the behavior escalate. Enforcing them early creates the paper trail needed to detain, restrict, prosecute, and eventually remove dangerous or disruptive people from the street.

D.C. laws that may apply:

D.C. Code § 22-1321 - Disorderly Conduct
D.C. Code § 22-1307 - Crowding, Obstructing, or Incommoding
D.C. Code § 22-407 - Threats to Do Bodily Harm
D.C. Code § 22-1810 - Threatening Injury or Property Damage
D.C. Code § 22-404 - Assault / Threatened Assault
D.C. Code § 22-1001 - Cruelty to Animals
D.C. Code § 22-3302 - Unlawful Entry / Trespassing
D.C. Municipal Regulations Title 21, Chapter 7 - Littering / Solid Waste
D.C. Code § 22-405.01 - Resisting Arrest
Court Orders - Stay-Away Orders, Release Violations, Failure to Appear, Probation Violations

Broken windows policing was proven to be a failure 25 years ago. We aren’t bringing it back.

A failure compared to do nothing and let them run wild?

What is more wild in a broken window scenario: throwing chicken bones on the corner of a parking lot OR attacking police officers with flagpoles and breaking into public property?

A lot of people are mad that when there was justice, POTUS let wild thugs free (and now wants to give them taxpayer money).

At the very least, be fucxing consistent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Walk somewhere else if it bothers you that much. We aren’t going to sic the police on this guy, as much as you’d love that.

Why not? Unstable hobo who menaces some percentage > 0 of passersby…

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like a lot of sock puppeting here.

If not, maybe ya'll are racists. I'm a white middle-aged lady and have only had pleasant interactions with him as I said upthread.

Also, if he's muttering under his breath, you must be awfully close to him.

Why is your story the one everyone is supposed to believe?

He does rant and yell sometimes. He does pee in the parking lot next to the fenced dumpsters.

It is not racist to say what occurs.

Look, I don't live in Tenleytown, but it sounds like this guy is a nuisance and there are two or three bleeding hearts here who refuse to accept that a broke Black guy can be an a sshole.

PPs, start calling the cops on him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is how you get repeat public-disorder offenders off the streets: enforce the laws already on the books.

It does not usually start with one major felony. It starts with the smaller crimes everyone ignores: disorderly conduct, obstruction, trespass, threats, littering, animal cruelty, leaving out harmful items to injure animals, and repeated harassment.

Call every time. Document every incident. Get video when safe. Identify witnesses. Push for every charge that fits. Each arrest, citation, stay-away order, failure to appear, or probation violation builds the record.

If police consistently enforced these existing laws against repeat offenders, neighborhoods would be safer. Ignoring “minor” crimes lets the behavior escalate. Enforcing them early creates the paper trail needed to detain, restrict, prosecute, and eventually remove dangerous or disruptive people from the street.

D.C. laws that may apply:

D.C. Code § 22-1321 - Disorderly Conduct
D.C. Code § 22-1307 - Crowding, Obstructing, or Incommoding
D.C. Code § 22-407 - Threats to Do Bodily Harm
D.C. Code § 22-1810 - Threatening Injury or Property Damage
D.C. Code § 22-404 - Assault / Threatened Assault
D.C. Code § 22-1001 - Cruelty to Animals
D.C. Code § 22-3302 - Unlawful Entry / Trespassing
D.C. Municipal Regulations Title 21, Chapter 7 - Littering / Solid Waste
D.C. Code § 22-405.01 - Resisting Arrest
Court Orders - Stay-Away Orders, Release Violations, Failure to Appear, Probation Violations

Cannot imagine calling the police every time a mentally unwell person has made a vague vocal threat to do me bodily harm. Who would that actually help?

“Mentally unwell” is as risible as “houseless” - you mean a threatening, crazy person who may very well be violent?

[Anonymous]

Why do some people buy the street sense newspaper the hoboes are constantly peddling? Do you buy it because you feel sorry for these folks? Isn’t that self defeating? If you’re trying to encourage them to do something productive, this ain’t it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do some people buy the street sense newspaper the hoboes are constantly peddling? Do you buy it because you feel sorry for these folks? Isn’t that self defeating? If you’re trying to encourage them to do something productive, this ain’t it

It is good journalism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do some people buy the street sense newspaper the hoboes are constantly peddling? Do you buy it because you feel sorry for these folks? Isn’t that self defeating? If you’re trying to encourage them to do something productive, this ain’t it

Many of their articles are about homelessness and the troubles and stigma. Also, have you ever bought a newspaper or novel? It also has creative writing. It sounds like you need a copy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do some people buy the street sense newspaper the hoboes are constantly peddling? Do you buy it because you feel sorry for these folks? Isn’t that self defeating? If you’re trying to encourage them to do something productive, this ain’t it

Many of their articles are about homelessness and the troubles and stigma. Also, have you ever bought a newspaper or novel? It also has creative writing. It sounds like you need a copy.

So he publishes a newsletter, but can't figure out how to throw away his trash?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do some people buy the street sense newspaper the hoboes are constantly peddling? Do you buy it because you feel sorry for these folks? Isn’t that self defeating? If you’re trying to encourage them to do something productive, this ain’t it

Because it makes them feel good. For just a dollar or two they get an endorphin rush that makes them feel good. Meanwhile they perpetuate the suffering of the homeless person by giving them just enough to stay in danger on the street another night instead of getting the services they need. It’s completely narcissistic.

[Anonymous]

Do you really believe that a guy who sits outside a CVS for at least 12 hours a day who clearly has substance abuse issues is writing and publishing anything?
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt, when and where is he accomplishing this? Does he even have a notepad with him during his "shifts" outside CVS?