Eileen Gu getting paid $14 million to represent China

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America is actually a completely amoral country. The patriotism we talk about is only the rantings of MAGA White supremacists. MAGA hates immigrants and racial minorities are not given a fair chance in this country.

American values is all about making a buck. And Eileen Gu's values are the best of American values.

Of course, her hard work and her mother's sacrifices are a result of the best of Chinese family culture so it was appropriate that she honored her background by playing for China. Besides, China is smart, strategic, influential and not broke like USA. I expect her career and earnings will sky-rocket in the future with her China connection.

Ah, the Asian parent "sacrifice".
What exactly did her mother sacrifice that countless other parents haven't done for their own children?
If a Chinese parent works, it's a sacrifice for the child.
If a Chinese parent stays-at-home, it's a sacrifice for the child.
If a Chinese parent takes her child to sports practice, it's a sacrifice.

All these "sacrifices" are simply called parenting in other cultures. Asian "sacrifice" language is a tool for manipulating guilt on the children.

Eileen Gu's mother likely failed to obtain her MRS degree and at the ripe age of 40 cast about for a sperm. There are lots of women like this who, at the closing of their fertile window, make desperate and drastic choices to be a single parent. Her mother seems to have amassed a high number of various US degrees prior to finally settling on a profession - killing time in school? Like Alysa Liu's father, she made an engineered choice about the donor's traits and features. But unlike Alysa Liu, it seems Eileen Gu was brought up with solid grounding, wide exposure to worlds outside of her sport and a loving multi-generational family.

Alysa Liu seems fine and happy I don’t see what point you are trying to make.

Of course she is.
And I am sure she'd be happier if she could control her presentation enough for a major brand to find in her a reliable spokesperson and public figure. Right now, the possibilities are Manic Panic hair dye and companies that sell dental Grillz.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is dual citizenship even allowed? I agree she’s a traitor. Why doesn’t she live there if she’s so proud to be Chinese?

America is actually a completely amoral country. The patriotism we talk about is only the rantings of MAGA White supremacists. MAGA hates immigrants and racial minorities are not given a fair chance in this country.

American values is all about making a buck. And Eileen Gu's values are the best of American values.

Of course, her hard work and her mother's sacrifices are a result of the best of Chinese family culture so it was appropriate that she honored her background by playing for China. Besides, China is smart, strategic, influential and not broke like USA. I expect her career and earnings will sky-rocket in the future with her China connection.

And she's gorgeous! Many of her endorsements are about her being so pretty, and the half-Chinese, half-American look does very well in China. Alysa Liu is also Chinese American, and at least so far, even after winning a world championship last year, she doesn't appear to have strong sponsorship income. I think it's an interesting comparison, as they are both Chinese Americans, though, of course, Elieen's mom is welcomed back in China, while Alysa's dad is not, so skating for China was never an option for Alysa. I hope Alysa can convert her Olympic Gold into a small fortune, too!

Maybe China or Taiwan should give her similar endorsement. Or maybe other countries should bid on Alysa?

I agree. She should also make a fortune like Eileen. Also, I think it is fair for the world to bid on the best athletes so as audience we can see spectacular sports. And athletes can get citizenships in more resourced nations.

Why would China or Taiwan want to promote Alysa Liu? She doesn't speak any Chinese and doesn't seem culturally Chinese in any way except for biology.
Comparing Alysa Liu to Eileen Gu is like comparing apples to oranges. Eileen Gu grew up in a Chinese household and annually spent summers in China. I think she even attended the dreaded Saturday Chinese School just like most Chinese kids do.
Alysa Liu is just another half-Asian who knows nothing about that half heritage. The lack of knowledge and awareness about her cultural history qualifies her as utterly American.

Even more so, Alysa’s dad is a political refugee who fled China after Tiananmen Square. He also grew up super poor. Eileen’s mom appears to be from a wealthy Chinese family. She went to Stanford after she immigrated to the U.S.

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Anonymous wrote:What is more American than playing for the highest bidder?

I think my my bigger beef is China. Why represent a country known for its human rights abuses? Hopefully she's at least a spy for the CIA pretending to be an ally.

Obviously there is another one skiing for the UK, but I don't find that as ethically dubious.

Do you realize that this is ALL of the U.S. athletes now?



And hilarious that Russia is not here because of Ukraine but we just took out Venezuela's president

I know OP is MAGA. Only they can be so hypocritical at this point in time.

No it's not even remotely the same as decades of genocide and female fetocide in China

hmmmm not familiar with US history are we?

I like how people keep commenting this but give zero details.

Did you get your education from a red state or overseas? You seem to have some holes.

Not our job to catch you up

Still waiting to hear what you think is equivalent to murdering millions of people.

Just want to point out that US is the only country in the world that has dropped not one but two nuclear bombs that killed hundreds of thousands in a blink of an eye. You can make all the excuses you’d like about the reason for this and how we have moral high ground over China, but don’t act like we are some innocent party that has never done wrong. There are many problems with the U.S., and there are many problems with China.

Eileen Gu, as far as I’m concerned, can do whatever she likes. If you’re not criticizing your fortune 100 companies for ALL working with and relying on Chinese manufacturing, then maybe you should think about why your vitriol is directed towards a 22 yo woman who’s absolutely dominating her sport and achieving historic levels of athleticism in her sport, and not the greed focused American companies who take the same Chinese money that you’re so disgusted by, and further think about how much financially you have benefited from buying cheaper goods all made in China.

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Anonymous wrote:I support her decision to compete for China. EG probably doesn't feel very American since she was raised by her Chinese single mother and has no contact with her American bio father as I understand it.

Well no. She was born in America, raised in America by a mother living in America. And is attending college in America. So would be bizarre to say she doesn’t “feel” very American.

But presumably China paid her a lot of money and such Trump and his family are cashing in on Chinese money right left and center, it’s hypocritical for VP JD to attack her for doing exactly what his boss is doing.

She was raised in both countries so the connection is a lot stronger than most athletes who play for other countries yet get no grief about it

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Just to add to the previous comment, to my understanding Alysa Liu's white side came from an egg donor.

Both of her parents that she grew up with and was raised by are Chinese.

I don't really know anything else about her. ie her childhood, how much she connects to her heritage, etc.

As for Eileen Gu, as others mentioned, she was a famous celebrity in China even before the first time she represented China in the Olympics which is a reason why she decided to represent China.

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Eileen Gu only got 7 million over 3 years. The 14 million figure was for Eileen and another US talent (I forget the second skier's name) to represent China.

Oh, BTW - the payment is structured in form of endorsements.

Oh, and Eileen Gu made 23 million last year with Chinese company endorsements.

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It's just a one or two liner, but according to this article:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/alysa-liu-family-history-revealed-153343984.html

Alysa Liu does indeed speak Mandarin and is involved in the Chinese American community.

The article also says that her dad purposely chose a white egg donor because he wanted the mixed genetics and chose white egg donors for some of her other siblings as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I support her decision to compete for China. EG probably doesn't feel very American since she was raised by her Chinese single mother and has no contact with her American bio father as I understand it.

Well no. She was born in America, raised in America by a mother living in America. And is attending college in America. So would be bizarre to say she doesn’t “feel” very American.

But presumably China paid her a lot of money and such Trump and his family are cashing in on Chinese money right left and center, it’s hypocritical for VP JD to attack her for doing exactly what his boss is doing.

She was raised in both countries so the connection is a lot stronger than most athletes who play for other countries yet get no grief about it

The truth and nothing but the truth so help me Ja

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's just a one or two liner, but according to this article:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/alysa-liu-family-history-revealed-153343984.html

Alysa Liu does indeed speak Mandarin and is involved in the Chinese American community.

The article also says that her dad purposely chose a white egg donor because he wanted the mixed genetics and chose white egg donors for some of her other siblings as well.

Alysa liu cannot speak Chinese you ignorant dolt

[Anonymous]

The difference between Eileen Gu’s paid representation of China in the Olympics and F100 use of Chinese manufacturing is that the corporate work does not upend traditional notions of sports diplomacy, which is the topic of this thread for better or worse.

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They both are genetically engineered for the sole purpose of creating athletic offspring

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just a one or two liner, but according to this article:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/articles/alysa-liu-family-history-revealed-153343984.html

Alysa Liu does indeed speak Mandarin and is involved in the Chinese American community.

The article also says that her dad purposely chose a white egg donor because he wanted the mixed genetics and chose white egg donors for some of her other siblings as well.

Alysa liu cannot speak Chinese you ignorant dolt

I wouldn’t be surprised if she does speak a little bit of the language, just not well enough to do an interview on camera. Conversational, but not fluent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

America is actually a completely amoral country. The patriotism we talk about is only the rantings of MAGA White supremacists. MAGA hates immigrants and racial minorities are not given a fair chance in this country.

American values is all about making a buck. And Eileen Gu's values are the best of American values.

Of course, her hard work and her mother's sacrifices are a result of the best of Chinese family culture so it was appropriate that she honored her background by playing for China. Besides, China is smart, strategic, influential and not broke like USA. I expect her career and earnings will sky-rocket in the future with her China connection.

Ah, the Asian parent "sacrifice".
What exactly did her mother sacrifice that countless other parents haven't done for their own children?
If a Chinese parent works, it's a sacrifice for the child.
If a Chinese parent stays-at-home, it's a sacrifice for the child.
If a Chinese parent takes her child to sports practice, it's a sacrifice.

All these "sacrifices" are simply called parenting in other cultures. Asian "sacrifice" language is a tool for manipulating guilt on the children.

Eileen Gu's mother likely failed to obtain her MRS degree and at the ripe age of 40 cast about for a sperm. There are lots of women like this who, at the closing of their fertile window, make desperate and drastic choices to be a single parent. Her mother seems to have amassed a high number of various US degrees prior to finally settling on a profession - killing time in school? Like Alysa Liu's father, she made an engineered choice about the donor's traits and features. But unlike Alysa Liu, it seems Eileen Gu was brought up with solid grounding, wide exposure to worlds outside of her sport and a loving multi-generational family.

Alysa Liu seems fine and happy I don’t see what point you are trying to make.

Of course she is.
And I am sure she'd be happier if she could control her presentation enough for a major brand to find in her a reliable spokesperson and public figure. Right now, the possibilities are Manic Panic hair dye and companies that sell dental Grillz.

From what I can see of Liu, you seem very unqualified to comment on what would make her happy

She doesn't seem to want to be marketable and I think she will make opportunities fior herself based on that.

Not everyone wants to be a Chanel spokesperson

[Anonymous]

8 US born athletes represented other countries... but yea let's drag one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is dual citizenship even allowed? I agree she’s a traitor. Why doesn’t she live there if she’s so proud to be Chinese?

America is actually a completely amoral country. The patriotism we talk about is only the rantings of MAGA White supremacists. MAGA hates immigrants and racial minorities are not given a fair chance in this country.

American values is all about making a buck. And Eileen Gu's values are the best of American values.

Of course, her hard work and her mother's sacrifices are a result of the best of Chinese family culture so it was appropriate that she honored her background by playing for China. Besides, China is smart, strategic, influential and not broke like USA. I expect her career and earnings will sky-rocket in the future with her China connection.

And she's gorgeous! Many of her endorsements are about her being so pretty, and the half-Chinese, half-American look does very well in China. Alysa Liu is also Chinese American, and at least so far, even after winning a world championship last year, she doesn't appear to have strong sponsorship income. I think it's an interesting comparison, as they are both Chinese Americans, though, of course, Elieen's mom is welcomed back in China, while Alysa's dad is not, so skating for China was never an option for Alysa. I hope Alysa can convert her Olympic Gold into a small fortune, too!

Eileen Gu speaks fluent Beijing accented Mandarin. She has been interviewed by Chinese media and speaks with diplomacy.
Alysa Liu does not speak Mandarin, and can barely string together a coherent English sentence. Her utterances tend to contain an excessive amount of "like...." and the occasional smug profanity.

The Chinese love attractive Wasians who speak Chinese. There are an abundant amount of Asian Americans who do not speak their heritage language. And an even smaller amount of Wasians who speak their heritage language. She is very unique in her combination of talents and physical features.

The Chinese don't care about Asian Americans speaking Chinese, they only worship white person who speaks Chinese/praise Chinese culture. that sentiment is easily convertible to net worth so yes why not tap into that opportunity if you are insanely talented...