Savannah Guthrie’s mom is missing, suspect kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think there was major evidence of a crime like blood. It says the family went to the house and then searched around for an hour before calling police. If they had seen evidence of a major crime, they wouldn't have been wandering the nearby neighborhood and property for an hour looking for her. The house was open, I am sure they looked all through the house first in case she had fallen etc..and then they still searched for an hour before calling police.

I don't think there was blood, but the article makes it sound like it's not just the medicine. It specifically says that there is evidence of a crime. Her being missing without her medicine and nothing more would not constitute evidence of a crime. I bet they found a broken window/forced entry point or something along those lines.

They also said her front door was open (I don't know if they mean unlocked or actually open), and that her purse and phone were still at the house. It could be those kind of things as well. Since she couldn't walk far and she didn't go to church, something clearly happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Police are again searching the area around her home- both on foot and by helicopter. I get the sense they have not 100% ruled out her wandering off on foot (despite what they said at the press conference). Also: even though she was of sound mind, at her age, things can change quickly (and sudden medical episodes can cause mental changes).

+1 LEOs, FBI, K9s, family members, and drones haven't been able to locate an 84 year old woman who can't walk 50 yds without assistance, uses a cane and needs life-saving meds every 24 hours. .

I feel like (even if temporary or due to medical episodes or medication) disorientation or confusion can’t ever be 100% ruled out at her age. I also think that sometimes people’s bodies can do things that don’t otherwise seem possible- meaning she could have gotten further than 50 yards.

It seems they have extensively searched the area. I really hope they have gone door to door and made contact with all homeowners. This area has more elderly than most- and a higher percentage of homes that might be temporarily unoccupied (or are owned by retirees who are off traveling). Most of the homes have a pool and some have outbuildings like sheds or even small pool casitas. If she was somehow able to wander further than expected, she could very well be on someone’s property (god forbid, drowned in someone’s pool or spa and the homeowner is out of town). Just my thoughts.

She also has a dog. Breed not mentioned- just described as “not a guard dog”. Probably a small lap dog. Maybe she took it out at night to pee, it ran off and she made an attempt to chase. Would somewhat explain the door left open (and the dog returning into the home later but no Nancy). Though, again, you wouldn’t think she’d have gotten far. But who knows?

+1 All your thoughts make sense.

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She had cameras at the house. They have to know more than they are saying.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope that her mom is okay. Can't imagine kidnapping an 80+ year old woman. They are a massive pain in the ass. Hope she is giving them hell!

OMG, I laughed at this! We are part of possibly a small club of people thinking this in relation to our own mom and too many people will dump on you for this. If it were my mother, they'd bring her back. In fact, I think they wouldn't even take her. They might leave crying after she verbally tore them to shreds. I saw an interview though with Savannah and her mom and her mom is a nice person and was a cheerleader for her. I do hope she is OK and I hope nobody gives you grief for your post.

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Anonymous wrote:She had cameras at the house. They have to know more than they are saying.

If she had working cameras, police would know what happened, right?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think there was major evidence of a crime like blood. It says the family went to the house and then searched around for an hour before calling police. If they had seen evidence of a major crime, they wouldn't have been wandering the nearby neighborhood and property for an hour looking for her. The house was open, I am sure they looked all through the house first in case she had fallen etc..and then they still searched for an hour before calling police.

This is a good point. if you see blood, you are calling the police ASAP. They probably hoped she was in the house and just didn't hear them at first.

How is the weather there? If this happened here in the DC metro area I'd be terrified she is frozen somewhere, but hopefully if this is a case of wandering off they will find her in decent shape.

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It sounds like they believe she disappeared between 1 AM and 4 AM. So unless she was confused, probably not out walking the dog?

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Anonymous wrote:Are there other adult children and family in the area? A kid living 3,000 miles away from their aging widow mom makes me so sad. She prob only saw her a handful of times a year

It's very different these days in the age of all the apps with cameras, though

Signed, Grandma in her 60s

Back in the older days it was literally just letters and still pictures and phone calls across state lines that cost money per minutes

Now photos can be posted online in a hot minute

It is really different

Yeah it’s different that strivers who abandoned their elders think FaceTime and social media means they’re “there” for the elderly. They’re not. The elderly are super vulnerable; both health safety and financial crimes. If SHTF they’re a world apart and can’t help

What exactly are you trying to imply she should have done? If her mother didn't want to move near her, she should drop her job and move there? There were cameras in the home. She may have had family nearby. Savanah has a sister, I think. This mother was NOT abandoned. Do you think women should not allowed to have careers? Are you suggesting Savannah should have forced her mom to move by basically kidnapping her and moving her somewhere against her will to protect her from kidnapping? Do you know how rare kidnapping is? Was she supposed to predict this?

Why are you making this about women/daughters? Because you're projecting. Both self-centered striver sons and daughters abandon elderly and then eagerly cash the trust fund and estate checks when they croak after years of sadness and loneliness -- or worse.

I doubt Savannah is eager to cash the estate check. Very strange.

Someone is definitely acting out her or his own drama and has a vendetta. I recall Savanah saying she came from a modest background. She probably pays for mom's home and any care needed that isn't covered. She is not using her mom for a trust fund or estate checks?!

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Anonymous wrote:She had cameras at the house. They have to know more than they are saying.

This. If it was cut and dried, the media wouldn’t be all over it and she would have been found by now.

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Anonymous wrote:She had cameras at the house. They have to know more than they are saying.

If she had working cameras, police would know what happened, right?

They have said they know she didn't leave on her own and that a crime has been committed. So yes, they seem to have some knowledge of what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:The grave concern is that she relies on medication to sustain her life and she didn’t take it with her. LEOs are saying 24 hours and it will be life threatening.

This makes sense. I hope they find her soon so she can take her meds and I really hope she is safe.

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Anonymous wrote:Police are again searching the area around her home- both on foot and by helicopter. I get the sense they have not 100% ruled out her wandering off on foot (despite what they said at the press conference). Also: even though she was of sound mind, at her age, things can change quickly (and sudden medical episodes can cause mental changes).

Yes, crazy as it sounds UTIs do crazy things. I swear for just about everything possible that seems different they want to rule out a UTI. Even vitamin deficiencies like B-12 can mimic dementia symptoms and while dementia comes on slow, some strange stuff can happen quite quickly with elderly. Also it's a slippery slope between functioning find and the first time someone gets lost or wanders.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think there was major evidence of a crime like blood. It says the family went to the house and then searched around for an hour before calling police. If they had seen evidence of a major crime, they wouldn't have been wandering the nearby neighborhood and property for an hour looking for her. The house was open, I am sure they looked all through the house first in case she had fallen etc..and then they still searched for an hour before calling police.

I don't think there was blood, but the article makes it sound like it's not just the medicine. It specifically says that there is evidence of a crime. Her being missing without her medicine and nothing more would not constitute evidence of a crime. I bet they found a broken window/forced entry point or something along those lines.

They also said her front door was open (I don't know if they mean unlocked or actually open), and that her purse and phone were still at the house. It could be those kind of things as well. Since she couldn't walk far and she didn't go to church, something clearly happened.

If her purse was still there and I assume credit cards, etc, wouldn't that make it unlikely to be a crime?

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like they believe she disappeared between 1 AM and 4 AM. So unless she was confused, probably not out walking the dog?

How old is the dog? My aunt's eldery dog wears a diaper and will wimper to go out at all hours of the night and morning to pee.

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Praying she is found ok, but really worried.