When Did Having Healthcare become a Right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question: for those who believe in government-run health care systems, why don't you move to a country that has such a thing?

Because they don’t want Americans. We’re now a $hithole country.

Go move to Israel if you want free healthcare. They'll gladly take Americans.

Why don’t you move to Iran if you want a theocracy? Or to Russia if you want white supremacy, an oligarchy, and to be gaslit all the time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not, never in the constitution

Trump threw the Constitution out the window

So don't tell me what's in the Constitution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not, never in the constitution

Trump threw the Constitution out the window

So don't tell me what's in the Constitution.

General welfare clause

[Anonymous]

OP-I don’t mind paying for healthcare. The problem is that even paying for it does not translate into getting good coverage. If people pay for the privilege, shouldn’t they actually get access to the care they need? Without going into debt?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since healthcare must be performed by others and has to be paid for, how is it a right? If it is a right, what does that look like? Free neighborhood clinics or cancer treatment at MD Anderson?

It hasn’t.

Negotiate your own cash price for service or pay insurance premiums for them to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can people please stop calling publicly funded programs "socialism?" Socialism is a system where the govt/workers own the means of production. That is it. European countries are social democracies who participate in the free market, nothing socialist about them.
And as to the OP, healthcare is something we give everyone but not everyone can afford to pay for it. In this country we just do it in a stupid way.

Yes, thank you.

Clearly they stopped teaching a proper Civics class in 7th or 8th grade.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Funny how no one dares to say what free health care is supposed to look like.

go to Canada. Look around. Ask around. Are people happy with their healthcare? Most will say yes. It's not perfect, but no one is going to die because they can't get treatment. In Canada.

lol
Canada went bankrupt in the late 1990s. Then started it all over again.

Huge private healthcare market in Michigan for Canadians.

[Anonymous]

Healthcare has never really been a “right”.
Our current employer sponsored system dates back to WW2 where factories were highly encouraged to provide all sorts of services to employees to encourage full work participation and no days off. Doctors and healthcare on site or nearby. Free childcare. You could get pre-cooked meals at the end of the day without using your food ration tickets. When troops returned a lot of those systems were kept in place as businesses competed for workers against other businesses and public sector jobs.

There never really been any other realistic alternative for workers until the ACA created state marketplaces for healthcare.

[Anonymous]

If you consider yourself a true Christian who walks the path of Christ, you shouldn't get your self-righteous jollies watching other people suffer from sickness. Disgusting how the MAGA cross-wearing crowd can't quite wrap their heads around this, or worse, rationalize why it's ok to let poor people suffer and die (because guess what, the MAGA hat doesn't doesn't bestow you with endless blessings and protection from God, no built-in guardian angel, either. Who knew).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't wait until you find out what actually happens when you try to make an Ayn Rand paradise.

Agree. They’re going to see the brutality of pure capitalism with absolutely no safety net. Best to OP! His type of arrogance has the tendency to come back and bite him.

[Anonymous]

Are food and water rights?
How about education?
Are we a society?

[Anonymous]

Free healthcare is needed to get all the best doctors into private healthcare. Now an illegal alien can walk into a emergency room and by the luck of the draw end up with the world's best doctors . Needs to stop. Need two systems ...public and private just like schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Free healthcare is needed to get all the best doctors into private healthcare. Now an illegal alien can walk into an emergency room and by the luck of the draw end up with the world's best doctors . Needs to stop. Need two systems ...public and private just like schools.

You know House was pretend right? The “brilliant” doctor thing is not real and can’t save all the patients. I’d rather have easy access to a regular old doctor for most of my needs. Odds are, I’m not a super special case that would require a non existent Dr. House and neither are you.

Apparently in the 80s, the government decided to curb the number of doctors trained and that (in large part) caused our current doc shortage. That is more of issue, than who is the best doctor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't wait until you find out what actually happens when you try to make an Ayn Rand paradise.

Agree. They’re going to see the brutality of pure capitalism with absolutely no safety net. Best to OP! His type of arrogance has the tendency to come back and bite him.

Doesn't matter his type never blames those who are feeding him propaganda.

He will go down at the end still muttering about the "illegals", "trans", and "foreigners."

Don't you remember during COVID of people who were literally dying of COVID refusing to actually believe they were dying of COVID.

MAGA GOP are brain dead now.
Zombies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you consider yourself a true Christian who walks the path of Christ, you shouldn't get your self-righteous jollies watching other people suffer from sickness. Disgusting how the MAGA cross-wearing crowd can't quite wrap their heads around this, or worse, rationalize why it's ok to let poor people suffer and die (because guess what, the MAGA hat doesn't doesn't bestow you with endless blessings and protection from God, no built-in guardian angel, either. Who knew).

Karoline Leavitt every day in her cross. Christians should be calling her out.