When Did Having Healthcare become a Right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since healthcare must be performed by others and has to be paid for, how is it a right? If it is a right, what does that look like? Free neighborhood clinics or cancer treatment at MD Anderson?

When did having roads become a right?

Or fire stations?

The interstates or a Navy?

Your personal health care has nothing to do with fire stations, interstates or the Navy.

FAIL.

[Anonymous]

In the mid 20th century for most first world counties, except the US.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since healthcare must be performed by others and has to be paid for, how is it a right? If it is a right, what does that look like? Free neighborhood clinics or cancer treatment at MD Anderson?

It has long been a right in other first world countries because government leaders understood that a healthy citizenry is a productive one.
BTW, education is also a right. Kids are taught by teachers who are paid for by our tax dollars. You are not as clever as you imagine.

News Flash:
The EU doesn’t allow carcinogens into the food supply. Why does our government have a right to poison us?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since the Declaration of Independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

As civilization progresses, we get more things and now we understand that the pursuit of Happiness doesn’t happen if you are suffering from never ending physical pain. We can also do something about it.

The declaration doesn’t say we all have to suffer in order to get these things, but that they are unalienable rights.

When you know better, you do better and that my friend is the history of the living document. the standards of life and happiness change with the times. DO you think in 1776 an IVF petri dish would be considered a life? No, because they couldn’t even imagine it. Things change dude.

The Declaration of Independence proclaimed rights to be free from government intrusion in one's life not that that same government must do something for a person.

True. Democrats can’t read straight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody has the "right" to free labor of another human being or the "right" to take another person's money to pay for free services.

It is charity given by the grace of others.

The entitlement attitude is childish and gross.

Well stated.

[Anonymous]

How do you feel about public schools, OP?
I’m guessing you are also like:
Why should I pay to educate someone else’s child?
Why should I pay for roads I don’t drive on?
Why should I pay for fire stations that will likely never benefit me?
Stop enslaving me to pay for schools, roads, and emergency services I don’t use, waah waah waah

I’m guessing if a poor person breaks their arm, you want them to die of sepsis? Too bad for them, huh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since healthcare must be performed by others and has to be paid for, how is it a right? If it is a right, what does that look like? Free neighborhood clinics or cancer treatment at MD Anderson?

It has long been a right in other first world countries because government leaders understood that a healthy citizenry is a productive one.
BTW, education is also a right. Kids are taught by teachers who are paid for by our tax dollars. You are not as clever as you imagine.

News Flash:
The EU doesn’t allow carcinogens into the food supply. Why does our government have a right to poison us?

Why don't you ask the big business and agriculture lobbies that convince our politicians to support that? Michelle Obama tried to get unhealthy food out of our kids' lunches, but you know what happened to that effort

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Nobody has the "right" to free labor of another human being or the "right" to take another person's money to pay for free services.

It is charity given by the grace of others.

The entitlement attitude is childish and gross.

Well stated.

Sock puppet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since the Declaration of Independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

As civilization progresses, we get more things and now we understand that the pursuit of Happiness doesn’t happen if you are suffering from never ending physical pain. We can also do something about it.

The declaration doesn’t say we all have to suffer in order to get these things, but that they are unalienable rights.

When you know better, you do better and that my friend is the history of the living document. the standards of life and happiness change with the times. DO you think in 1776 an IVF petri dish would be considered a life? No, because they couldn’t even imagine it. Things change dude.

The Declaration of Independence proclaimed rights to be free from government intrusion in one's life not that that same government must do something for a person.

True. Democrats can’t read straight.

What, pray tell, does the government DO except try to help its citizens prosper. Even the military is formed to “do something for a person” and keep them safe.

Sorry, but no. Healthcare involves all of us BTW, not just the “individual”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:13:03 beautifully illustrates the evil machine maga wishes to correct. The machine is make people sick via food, air, water, etc., thus forcing them into lifelong, the painful sick care industry.

Sure. I think MAGA/MAHA forgot that clean air and water part in that bill they are passing. Oopsies! Maybe because it is anathema to a typical conservative platform to enact regulations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nobody has the "right" to free labor of another human being or the "right" to take another person's money to pay for free services.

It is charity given by the grace of others.

The entitlement attitude is childish and gross.

I don’t think anyone is saying medical providers should give away free labor.

The doctors and nurses etc. would still be paid with government-sponsored insurance. Just like they get paid with Medicaid and Medicare.

It’s one thing to say you don’t want your tax dollars paying for universal healthcare. I disagree with you, but at least there is some logic behind the opinion. But to feign outrage over people being expected to give away free labor is stupid because this isn’t being proposed.

Perhaps there could be a program where doctors can work for less money for student loan forgiveness, which has helped with other industries like law. That would have the double benefit of making healthcare more affordable and allowing more people a path to afford medical school.

Also no one would be “taking” anyone’s money. It’s called taxation and spending. Personally I don’t agree with my tax dollars being used on ICE raids and the iron dome, but I can’t claim the money has been “taken.”

Basically you really don’t sound as clever as you think you do and it is clear you don’t really understand how the constitution or government works. I’m hoping you are a bot and not a real person.

[Anonymous]

America elected Trump to Make America Great Again. Barack Obama did NOTHING to help get the poisons out of our food. At least Trump got FORMER Democrat RFK on board to do something productive.

Obama did NOTHING.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:America elected Trump to Make America Great Again. Barack Obama did NOTHING to help get the poisons out of our food. At least Trump got FORMER Democrat RFK on board to do something productive.

Obama did NOTHING.

And of course sleepy joe did nothing either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:America elected Trump to Make America Great Again. Barack Obama did NOTHING to help get the poisons out of our food. At least Trump got FORMER Democrat RFK on board to do something productive.

Obama did NOTHING.

WHAT? Michelle Obama faced horrible opposition from Republicans for trying to get the poison out of school lunches for kids. Where were you? Oh- probably calling her names.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funny how no one dares to say what free health care is supposed to look like.

I lived in South Korea and when I took my child to the hospital for multiple tests and exams, I paid before I left and it was about $40 which was very affordable to me. Civilized healthcare is possible. And it looks amazing. I’m sorry you’re more concerned about insurance companies and their CEOs getting rich than you are about having a civilized society.