Are VA publics really better than Maryland's?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are trade offs to living in VA and for many of us the math doesn’t add up for just a few public college options.

This thread isn’t about which is a better state. It’s about which state has better public colleges and universities.

The bigger picture matters. The trade offs of living in Virginia matter for college students too.

If you go by quantity of public colleges, Virginia definitely wins.

Based on quality, it gets more complicated.

Virginia has far more to offer than Maryland. Jobs, for one. It’s also a much more appealing place to live.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are trade offs to living in VA and for many of us the math doesn’t add up for just a few public college options.

This thread isn’t about which is a better state. It’s about which state has better public colleges and universities.

The bigger picture matters. The trade offs of living in Virginia matter for college students too.

If you go by quantity of public colleges, Virginia definitely wins.

Based on quality, it gets more complicated.

Virginia has far more to offer than Maryland. Jobs, for one. It’s also a much more appealing place to live.
DP

TBH, I don't think it's "much more appealing" to live in VA. That Tysons area is a concrete jungle. Reminds me of LA. MD is actually a lot greener and prettier.

That said... all else I agree with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are trade offs to living in VA and for many of us the math doesn’t add up for just a few public college options.

This thread isn’t about which is a better state. It’s about which state has better public colleges and universities.

The bigger picture matters. The trade offs of living in Virginia matter for college students too.

If you go by quantity of public colleges, Virginia definitely wins.

Based on quality, it gets more complicated.

Virginia has far more to offer than Maryland. Jobs, for one. It’s also a much more appealing place to live.
DP

Guessing you live there?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you go by quantity of public colleges, Virginia definitely wins.

Based on quality, it gets more complicated.

No, it really doesn't.

Of course, rankings aren't perfect. But Virginia has one of the top 4 of 5 public schools in the country (and top 25 overall), along with another historic "public ivy"--the best mid-sized public school in the country. And a tech school that is ranked just outside the top 50 national universities.

Maryland has one solid flagship that is definitely on the up, but was not considered a particularly strong school until quite recently.

Yes, Virginia wins on quantity. But it also wins on quality. It's not even close. It just isn't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you go by quantity of public colleges, Virginia definitely wins.

Based on quality, it gets more complicated.

No, it really doesn't.

Of course, rankings aren't perfect. But Virginia has one of the top 4 of 5 public schools in the country (and top 25 overall), along with another historic "public ivy"--the best mid-sized public school in the country. And a tech school that is ranked just outside the top 50 national universities.

Maryland has one solid flagship that is definitely on the up, but was not considered a particularly strong school until quite recently.

Yes, Virginia wins on quantity. But it also wins on quality. It's not even close. It just isn't.

It is bizarre to artificially limit the comparison to publics though. If you include publics and privates, Maryland wins no question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is bizarre to artificially limit the comparison to publics though. If you include publics and privates, Maryland wins no question.

Perhaps, but the thread is specifically about publics. And, for many people who cannot or will not pay for private school, that matters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is bizarre to artificially limit the comparison to publics though. If you include publics and privates, Maryland wins no question.

Perhaps, but the thread is specifically about publics. And, for many people who cannot or will not pay for private school, that matters.

Public does not necessarily mean cheaper than private.

If this is just a tuition thing, Virginia publics are relatively overpriced for in state residents. Also, privates like Hopkins have extremely generous financial aid.

Focusing on public only is just bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Sigh. I’ll play.

What great private school does Maryland have besides JHU? Sure, JHU is world class but it alone doesn’t trump Virginia’s entire system. And Washington & Lee and Richmond are very good private schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sigh. I’ll play.

What great private school does Maryland have besides JHU? Sure, JHU is world class but it alone doesn’t trump Virginia’s entire system. And Washington & Lee and Richmond are very good private schools.

Virgins wins on quantity. Thought we were past that.

[Anonymous]

And what prevent people living in NoVa to apply for JHU. They will pay the same price as people living in MD

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is bizarre to artificially limit the comparison to publics though. If you include publics and privates, Maryland wins no question.

Perhaps, but the thread is specifically about publics. And, for many people who cannot or will not pay for private school, that matters.

Public does not necessarily mean cheaper than private.

If this is just a tuition thing, Virginia publics are relatively overpriced for in state residents. Also, privates like Hopkins have extremely generous financial aid.

Focusing on public only is just bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And what prevent people living in NoVa to apply for JHU. They will pay the same price as people living in MD

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is bizarre to artificially limit the comparison to publics though. If you include publics and privates, Maryland wins no question.

Perhaps, but the thread is specifically about publics. And, for many people who cannot or will not pay for private school, that matters.

Public does not necessarily mean cheaper than private.

If this is just a tuition thing, Virginia publics are relatively overpriced for in state residents. Also, privates like Hopkins have extremely generous financial aid.

Focusing on public only is just bizarre.

Yes that is how top universities operate. Try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is bizarre to artificially limit the comparison to publics though. If you include publics and privates, Maryland wins no question.

Perhaps, but the thread is specifically about publics. And, for many people who cannot or will not pay for private school, that matters.

Public does not necessarily mean cheaper than private.

If this is just a tuition thing, Virginia publics are relatively overpriced for in state residents. Also, privates like Hopkins have extremely generous financial aid.

Focusing on public only is just bizarre.

THE TITLE OF THE POST IS “ARE VA PUBLICS BETTER THAN MD”

That’s why everyone (but you) are staying on task & talking about public schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are trade offs to living in VA and for many of us the math doesn’t add up for just a few public college options.

This thread isn’t about which is a better state. It’s about which state has better public colleges and universities.

The bigger picture matters. The trade offs of living in Virginia matter for college students too.

If you go by quantity of public colleges, Virginia definitely wins.

Based on quality, it gets more complicated.

Virginia has far more to offer than Maryland. Jobs, for one. It’s also a much more appealing place to live.
DP

TBH, I don't think it's "much more appealing" to live in VA. That Tysons area is a concrete jungle. Reminds me of LA. MD is actually a lot greener and prettier.

That said... all else I agree with.

You know that most Virginians... don't live in Tysons. Right? VA is full of green, rolling hills. Much more than MD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you go by quantity of public colleges, Virginia definitely wins.

Based on quality, it gets more complicated.

No, it really doesn't.

Of course, rankings aren't perfect. But Virginia has one of the top 4 of 5 public schools in the country (and top 25 overall), along with another historic "public ivy"--the best mid-sized public school in the country. And a tech school that is ranked just outside the top 50 national universities.

Maryland has one solid flagship that is definitely on the up, but was not considered a particularly strong school until quite recently.

Yes, Virginia wins on quantity. But it also wins on quality. It's not even close. It just isn't.

It is bizarre to artificially limit the comparison to publics though. If you include publics and privates, Maryland wins no question.

DP. The topic of the thread is indeed, publics. We're not talking about privates here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia is way better. UMD is a mix of UVA and VT, leaning closer to VT. And UMD has no equivalent to W & M. VA wins.

In-state tuition at UVA is about double the in-state at UMD.

Virginia has no equivalent to Hopkins. Hopkins is currently ranked #6 for national universities.

Hopkins is private. Not relevant.

Not relevant because of your arbitrary fixation on publics.

DP. Are you completely unable to stay on topic? No one cares about Hopkins in this thread because it is not a public. Get a clue.