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Why so many pit pulls?
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Anonymous
If they were truly "unadoptable", you'd never see them. Plenty of pit bulls get adopted, and go on to have happy lives as excellent family dogs. The fact that your bias prevents you from understanding that doesn't mean it's not happening, it just means you're blinded by your own stupid internal narrative. |
Anonymous
Not all goldens, and not all pits. But all people who make these blanket statements are idiots. |
Anonymous
Pits don't either. And for all that you want to talk about this by breed, you'd know that if you looked at the breed standard for pits and what they were bred to be: companions. Dogs that attack have their reasons, and if you read all the clickbait articles you seem to love so much with a brain that's even half aware, you'll see that the commonalities go way beyond the "pit bull" umbrella, and reveal circumstances that would make any dog a liability. Be simpleminded if you want, but don't talk about your position as if it were based on facts or reality, because it's not. |
Anonymous
No well-trained dog "just snaps". The people saying their previously-great dog "just snapped" don't know what they're doing. Don't believe me? Go look at the thread about the boxer (not a pit) that "just snapped" and attacked its owner. Some idiot claims that must mean the dog "is part pit" but all it means is too much dog with not enough responsible owner. That's the math, and literally any breed can complete that equation. |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
most goldens are inbred, but any dog has a capacity to hurt. happens more with pits, but don't kid yourself, they're all dogs and if mistreated they can all be dangerous. i actually think labs are the ones that people assume are nice and problem free. also massively in-bred and i've seen more than a few that are scary -- they're very attached to their owners, but they get let off the leash and they have very different personalities (like most dogs are different on and off-leash)... my parent's pit (which was leashed and couldn't defend itself) was mauled by a black lab and I've been menaced more than a few time by labs that were let off leash in the park and came into the community garden we have. despite having grown up with pits and thinking they have many admirable qualities, i chose not to adopt one for my own family, so don't accuse me of defending them... but let's be realistic about the other breeds. a mistreated, badly socialized dog is a dangerous dog, no matter the breed. |
Anonymous
also a breed trait of pits is intense, almost psychotic, devotion to its owner and family. most of the incidents people get so exercised over are results of poorly trained pits misdirecting their loyalty. I would trust a pit that I owned with my own baby, but I'd fear their response if they believed the baby was being threatened. That's not "snapping" -- that's a rational behavior that if not properly managed is deeply problematic. There's no mystery here--dogs that snap, no matter the breed are usually the fault of bad owners. |
Anonymous
re: the loyalty bit, ever met a Pyrenees? because this behavior applies to many of the guardian breeds, but I've never seen anything like a GP. Gorgeous dogs, and you really need to understand what they are to be safe around them. I agree with the bolded. In every one of these stories about a terrifying "pit bull" attack, there's a reason, and it's always connected to an irresponsible, ignorant (or willfully stupid) owner. New dogs left with small children in unfamiliar environments, underfed dogs left poorly secured in a yard, overstimulating environments with no calm, collected owner/handler to turn to and no crate or safe corner to retreat to... There are a LOT of people who shouldn't own dogs because they think only pits respond this way. Any poorly-trained, poorly-contained animal is a threat, all breeds of dog bite, and it is 100% the responsibility of their owners, every single time there's a problem. |
Anonymous
According to his Facebook, this dad breeds Pitbulls and has them as family pets. Sadly his 7 month old was killed by the family dog. https://people.com/father-of-elizah-turner-infant-killed-by-family-dog-speaks-out-11713874 |
Anonymous
https://people.com/kyomi-temple-infant-dies-pit-bull-attack-texas-11708082 |
Anonymous
2 male pits in an apartment with a 6 month old, and no crates, and poor supervision, and it's a pretty safe assumption that the sort of person who created that dynamic didn't train them particularly well, especially given the outcome. Not the breed's fault. The owner's fault. |
Anonymous
3 dogs, a 7-month old, a 4 year old, and "the family had just moved into their new home". Not the breed's fault. And if the owner really was breeding dogs with this dynamic, definitely the owner's fault. |
Anonymous
The kind of people who get pits are just EXCEPTIONALLY shitty people and owners. It's why we see so many of these attacks. Reason enough to avoid them and their dogs. |
Anonymous
The kind of people who make blanket statements like this are mentally incompetent jerks who should come with signs so they can be avoided like the plague on rational society they are. |
Anonymous
Why? I'm agreeing with you. If it is not related to the breed you've got a serious owner problem in the pit world. Otherwise we'd be seeing the Goldens mauling left and right, but they must have better owners on the whole. |