Why so many pit pulls?

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Anonymous wrote:Spay/neuter campaigns have been extremely successful with pretty much everyone except the segment of the population that finds pit bulls desirable. Thus no more “mutts” that make great family dogs.

After months of monitoring the intakes at my local humane society and county shelter) we went to a reputable breeder for this reason (and please miss me with the “no such thing as a reputable breeder” nonsense).

Someone needs to set up as a breeder that specializes in mutt mixes of desirable breeds of various sizes.

They would be the most popular breeder in the country.

NO. Go find the "Bosun Dogs" thread for why. We do NOT need more dogs.

We need better trained owners. A well-trained human can work with any breed. A stupid human will assume that only the "right breed" will be a good house pet, and that it will be so inherently, without training, simply because of its breed. We need better-educated humans, not more dogs.

There is no magic combination of breeds that will negate owner ignorance, and no customized dog that will be fully-trained for life from puppyhood.

We needs mutts.

We also need breed specific laws requiring owners to neuter and spay all pitbulls, with huge financial fines for failure to comply.

No, we don't
There are so many mutts waiting to be adopted
I was at the adoption event this Sunday - 100+ dogs - hounds, beagles, Chihuahua, husky, labs, shepherds, even could of doodles, and of course- super mutts... All shapes and forms, all ages

Few puppies though. People tend to want smaller dogs or puppies.

Our shelter is well trafficked. First to go are small dogs and pups, then anything except pitbulls. What remains are the poor pitbull mixes.

Plenty of puppies as well
On yesterday event there were 3 chi mixes, 2 beagle mixes, at least 10 shepherds, one Bernese mix, one mastiff/lab mix and countless terrier puppies. Some of them got adopted immediately, some are still available for adoption.
It's puppy season, rescues that bring dogs from the South have plenty of pups to choose from.

[Anonymous]

And yes, non-pit puppies are going fast, so apply, get pre-approved, and be first in line to pick a puppy once it becomes available

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Spay/neuter campaigns have been extremely successful with pretty much everyone except the segment of the population that finds pit bulls desirable. Thus no more “mutts” that make great family dogs.

After months of monitoring the intakes at my local humane society and county shelter) we went to a reputable breeder for this reason (and please miss me with the “no such thing as a reputable breeder” nonsense).

Someone needs to set up as a breeder that specializes in mutt mixes of desirable breeds of various sizes.

They would be the most popular breeder in the country.

NO. Go find the "Bosun Dogs" thread for why. We do NOT need more dogs.

We need better trained owners. A well-trained human can work with any breed. A stupid human will assume that only the "right breed" will be a good house pet, and that it will be so inherently, without training, simply because of its breed. We need better-educated humans, not more dogs.

There is no magic combination of breeds that will negate owner ignorance, and no customized dog that will be fully-trained for life from puppyhood.

We needs mutts.

We also need breed specific laws requiring owners to neuter and spay all pitbulls, with huge financial fines for failure to comply.

No, we don't
There are so many mutts waiting to be adopted
I was at the adoption event this Sunday - 100+ dogs - hounds, beagles, Chihuahua, husky, labs, shepherds, even could of doodles, and of course- super mutts... All shapes and forms, all ages

Few puppies though. People tend to want smaller dogs or puppies.

Our shelter is well trafficked. First to go are small dogs and pups, then anything except pitbulls. What remains are the poor pitbull mixes.

This is why some of us clap back at the anti-pit bullies and their nonsense. It does real harm.

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Anonymous wrote:And yes, non-pit puppies are going fast, so apply, get pre-approved, and be first in line to pick a puppy once it becomes available

Or, skip the queue entirely, learn how to train a dog properly, get a pit puppy and have yourself a lifelong companion without the waiting list. If you know how to train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're dogs. If you can't train a pit bull, you need to ask yourself if you can really train a dog at all. Maybe you need more skills before you adopt a new pet.

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Anonymous wrote:And yes, non-pit puppies are going fast, so apply, get pre-approved, and be first in line to pick a puppy once it becomes available

Or, skip the queue entirely, learn how to train a dog properly, get a pit puppy and have yourself a lifelong companion without the waiting list. If you know how to train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're dogs. If you can't train a pit bull, you need to ask yourself if you can really train a dog at all. Maybe you need more skills before you adopt a new pet.

Agreed, when we're talking about puppies - almost everything would depend on the training.
All I was saying - there are plenty of non-pit puppies available at any given day, but some would be adopted very quickly. So, just prepare simply by submitting application couple days ahead of the event to get priority adoption on the event day. It's that easy (that Bernese pup was adopted within first hour - I bet adopters had all paperwork done ahead of time).
PS I'm ok with training any dog, just not in the market yet, I'm spending my time fostering puppies and young dogs of various breeds (and pitties are my breed of choice if I'm craving cuddles and affection)

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Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.

Thank you for this explanation as I have always wondered this. In australia they're all greyhounds!
so funny- and not funny

I wonder why…? Greyhounds are sweet!

Bred in great numbers b/c racing

I’ll take a greyhound over a pit bull any day!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.

Thank you for this explanation as I have always wondered this. In australia they're all greyhounds!
so funny- and not funny

I wonder why…? Greyhounds are sweet!

Bred in great numbers b/c racing

I’ll take a greyhound over a pit bull any day!

Rescue racing Greyhound??? Id rather take pitbull puppy - rehabilitation is a nightmare. Dogs bred for racing have zero socialization, you'd have to teach them from scratch - potty training, leash manners, stairs, mirrors, glass doors, you name it....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.

Thank you for this explanation as I have always wondered this. In australia they're all greyhounds!
so funny- and not funny

I wonder why…? Greyhounds are sweet!

Bred in great numbers b/c racing

I’ll take a greyhound over a pit bull any day!

Rescue racing Greyhound??? Id rather take pitbull puppy - rehabilitation is a nightmare. Dogs bred for racing have zero socialization, you'd have to teach them from scratch - potty training, leash manners, stairs, mirrors, glass doors, you name it....

I dunno,.all of the retired racers I've met have been fantastic pets. Of course you have to train them, you have to train any dog. I've had all positive experiences with rescue pits too . I don't understand where y'all are finding these 'bad' dogs. You gotta take a step back and remember that stuff only makes the news because it is unusual.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.

Thank you for this explanation as I have always wondered this. In australia they're all greyhounds!
so funny- and not funny

I wonder why…? Greyhounds are sweet!

Bred in great numbers b/c racing

I’ll take a greyhound over a pit bull any day!

Rescue racing Greyhound??? Id rather take pitbull puppy - rehabilitation is a nightmare. Dogs bred for racing have zero socialization, you'd have to teach them from scratch - potty training, leash manners, stairs, mirrors, glass doors, you name it....

I dunno,.all of the retired racers I've met have been fantastic pets. Of course you have to train them, you have to train any dog. I've had all positive experiences with rescue pits too . I don't understand where y'all are finding these 'bad' dogs. You gotta take a step back and remember that stuff only makes the news because it is unusual.

...because a "bad" Golden Retriever will... dig a hole in your backyard? While a "bad" pit bull will snap and literally kill elderly, kids, and/or other pets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.

Thank you for this explanation as I have always wondered this. In australia they're all greyhounds!
so funny- and not funny

I wonder why…? Greyhounds are sweet!

Bred in great numbers b/c racing

I’ll take a greyhound over a pit bull any day!

Rescue racing Greyhound??? Id rather take pitbull puppy - rehabilitation is a nightmare. Dogs bred for racing have zero socialization, you'd have to teach them from scratch - potty training, leash manners, stairs, mirrors, glass doors, you name it....

I dunno,.all of the retired racers I've met have been fantastic pets. Of course you have to train them, you have to train any dog. I've had all positive experiences with rescue pits too . I don't understand where y'all are finding these 'bad' dogs. You gotta take a step back and remember that stuff only makes the news because it is unusual.

...because a "bad" Golden Retriever will... dig a hole in your backyard? While a "bad" pit bull will snap and literally kill elderly, kids, and/or other pets.

A bad golden retriever will snap and literally kill elderly kids and other pets. Any dog of any size can do it.

Pits can definitely be dangerous, but so can basically all other dogs.

[Anonymous]

Pitbulls have a lot of great qualities... they're extremely loyal, extremely people-oriented (as opposed to hounds), aren't particularly worried about pack structure, very high pain tolerance, playful, energetic, and with their own families are extremely gently and loving...

They obviously have a lot of downsides and can be aggressive... my parents adopted three great pitbulls, just because they were sweet dogs in need of a home at the pound, but personally I would be careful about adopting one.

That said, I don't mind that my rescue has some pit in her (she's mostly shepherd, but undeniably some pit) and I think for the most part, a dog with some pit mixed in is a better dog. I'd take a pit mix over a purebred for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spay/neuter campaigns have been extremely successful with pretty much everyone except the segment of the population that finds pit bulls desirable. Thus no more “mutts” that make great family dogs.

After months of monitoring the intakes at my local humane society and county shelter) we went to a reputable breeder for this reason (and please miss me with the “no such thing as a reputable breeder” nonsense).

Someone needs to set up as a breeder that specializes in mutt mixes of desirable breeds of various sizes.

They would be the most popular breeder in the country.

NO. Go find the "Bosun Dogs" thread for why. We do NOT need more dogs.

We need better trained owners. A well-trained human can work with any breed. A stupid human will assume that only the "right breed" will be a good house pet, and that it will be so inherently, without training, simply because of its breed. We need better-educated humans, not more dogs.

There is no magic combination of breeds that will negate owner ignorance, and no customized dog that will be fully-trained for life from puppyhood.

We needs mutts.

We also need breed specific laws requiring owners to neuter and spay all pitbulls, with huge financial fines for failure to comply.

No, we don't
There are so many mutts waiting to be adopted
I was at the adoption event this Sunday - 100+ dogs - hounds, beagles, Chihuahua, husky, labs, shepherds, even could of doodles, and of course- super mutts... All shapes and forms, all ages

Few puppies though. People tend to want smaller dogs or puppies.

Our shelter is well trafficked. First to go are small dogs and pups, then anything except pitbulls. What remains are the poor pitbull mixes.

This is why some of us clap back at the anti-pit bullies and their nonsense. It does real harm.

If pitbulls weren't so dangerous, and if their irresponsible owners spayed and neutered them, the unadoptable pitbulls would not be over running all the shelters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.

Thank you for this explanation as I have always wondered this. In australia they're all greyhounds!
so funny- and not funny

I wonder why…? Greyhounds are sweet!

Bred in great numbers b/c racing

I’ll take a greyhound over a pit bull any day!

Rescue racing Greyhound??? Id rather take pitbull puppy - rehabilitation is a nightmare. Dogs bred for racing have zero socialization, you'd have to teach them from scratch - potty training, leash manners, stairs, mirrors, glass doors, you name it....

I dunno,.all of the retired racers I've met have been fantastic pets. Of course you have to train them, you have to train any dog. I've had all positive experiences with rescue pits too . I don't understand where y'all are finding these 'bad' dogs. You gotta take a step back and remember that stuff only makes the news because it is unusual.

...because a "bad" Golden Retriever will... dig a hole in your backyard? While a "bad" pit bull will snap and literally kill elderly, kids, and/or other pets.

A bad golden retriever will snap and literally kill elderly kids and other pets. Any dog of any size can do it.

Pits can definitely be dangerous, but so can basically all other dogs.

The other dog breeds don't eat humans or attack children and old people for fun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.

Thank you for this explanation as I have always wondered this. In australia they're all greyhounds!
so funny- and not funny

I wonder why…? Greyhounds are sweet!

Bred in great numbers b/c racing

I’ll take a greyhound over a pit bull any day!

Rescue racing Greyhound??? Id rather take pitbull puppy - rehabilitation is a nightmare. Dogs bred for racing have zero socialization, you'd have to teach them from scratch - potty training, leash manners, stairs, mirrors, glass doors, you name it....

I dunno,.all of the retired racers I've met have been fantastic pets. Of course you have to train them, you have to train any dog. I've had all positive experiences with rescue pits too . I don't understand where y'all are finding these 'bad' dogs. You gotta take a step back and remember that stuff only makes the news because it is unusual.

...because a "bad" Golden Retriever will... dig a hole in your backyard? While a "bad" pit bull will snap and literally kill elderly, kids, and/or other pets.

A bad golden retriever will snap and literally kill elderly kids and other pets. Any dog of any size can do it.

Pits can definitely be dangerous, but so can basically all other dogs.

Like never.

Goldens are great pets.

Pits are too dangerous to be around people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And yes, non-pit puppies are going fast, so apply, get pre-approved, and be first in line to pick a puppy once it becomes available

Or, skip the queue entirely, learn how to train a dog properly, get a pit puppy and have yourself a lifelong companion without the waiting list. If you know how to train a dog, you can train a pit bull, because they're dogs. If you can't train a pit bull, you need to ask yourself if you can really train a dog at all. Maybe you need more skills before you adopt a new pet.

Until the pitbull attacks and dismembers your toddler.