Why so many pit pulls?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.


Thank you for this explanation as I have always wondered this. In australia they're all greyhounds!
so funny- and not funny


Biggest greyhound racing industry in world has led to overbreeding and systematic cruelty to animals.

There is opposition to greyhound racing in Australia, and as the movement gains momentum, the racing industry has dramatically increased breeding in the last few years, as a self preservation measure. They now breed 4 times as many dogs every year as rescues can rehome. It’s the “too big to fail” approach.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wow i have lernt a lot from this thread - I had not realized this scenario re: lack of mutts. Also about the "rescue" scheme. I totally lucked out with this shelter mutt. I have only had these kinds of dogs my whole life and so much appreciate them.


And the doodles ain't doin it.

Don't listen to it. Yes, rescue do take pups from shelters, but usually it's not happening in the same area.
For example, rescue I'm fostering for, brings dogs from overpopulated/high kill shelters in the South, not local county shelters.
You can call it "rescue scheme", of course, but reality is - those dogs would probably be euthanized.

PS my current foster mutt has no pitbull in her at the first glance, she's been in the shelter for over 18 months in TX (rare no-kill shelter), and another 3 month in foster care in DC.
So, I don't buy OPs claim about no non-pitts for adoption.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I ws checking the website daily and as soon as they posted a dog that was NOT pit-mix i raced down to the shelter as fast as humanly possible. I think "my" dog was in that shelter for about 14 hours. He's a total love and I totally got lucky.


My dog did not look like a pit but later found out had 10 percent pit, along with chow, germs shepherd and rottie.

Best dog ever
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.


But who in their right mind buys a dog for “aggression”? Why are so many people doing this? This is the part I don’t understand.


Very few people are doing this, and they're not going to the shelter to do it. It's a stereotype.

Yes, some people buy dogs for protection. The pit mix you see at the shelter isn't likely a result of that. People buy Rotties, Presas, Dogos etc. because they're intimidating-looking dogs. Most of them are giant meatwads.

And yes, there are people who fight their dogs. This is a small handful of owners, most of whom want massive XL bully-type dogs, which are frequently cross-bred with the above-mentioned breeds because staffies, etc. are fairly small as "big dogs" go.

A standard "pit bull" isn't exactly a threat. As for those of us who love them defending them here, ask yourself: if we wanted them for "protection" like the trope alleges, would we be telling you about how they're mostly goofy house hippos? No.

Some people believe tropes and stereotypes. The media uses this as clickbait. The cycle continues, and plenty of perfectly safe, good dogs get killed as a result.

Cue the pit hater torches and pitchforks...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:BC they are illegal in PG County so when someone is caught with one or turns on into the shelter there, PG County will transfer it to a shelter in a different jurisdiction (Alexandria, Arlington, Fairfax, AA county, Moco).

We had same experience trying to adopt in Alexandria and Arlington. At the time we had young kids and both DH and I worked full time so the shelters would always tell us we couldn’t have dogs bc of the age of our kids or that we would be gone for 6 hours (even if we got a dog walker) BUT good news they had pit bulls we could adopt. make it make sense.


I've been in pg and seen them
So we went with a private adoption. But we tried for 2 years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I agree that I wouldn’t choose a pit bull for my family and that too many unsavory people think they need guard dogs and don’t spay and neuter. The results are too many unwanted litters and sadly so many end up in shelters and are euthanized.

However, must we have some version of an ‘I hate pit bulls” thread every week in the pet forum?


This. There's a central thread for the pit hater trolls (all 5 of them), but they insist on posting this stuff weekly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.


They are bred indiscriminately by people in dog-fighting business. People should stop adopting them. But, people are stupid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I ws checking the website daily and as soon as they posted a dog that was NOT pit-mix i raced down to the shelter as fast as humanly possible. I think "my" dog was in that shelter for about 14 hours. He's a total love and I totally got lucky.


My dog did not look like a pit but later found out had 10 percent pit, along with chow, germs shepherd and rottie.

Best dog ever


I 100% believe this, having owned at least one of all those breeds. And yet, your dog, according to the non-logic so frequently trotted out by the anti-pit trolls is TEH DEADLIEST. Chow? And rottie? AND GSD? AND PIT?!!!. Your dog = purebred killer

It's so stupid. Any untrained dog and be an aggressive menace, and there are plenty of "bad breed" dogs that are lovable goofs.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.


They are bred indiscriminately by people in dog-fighting business. People should stop adopting them. But, people are stupid.


People who believe that the breed, in and of itself, is the problem are, yes, quite stupid.

All dogs were bred to be human companions. An improperly socialized dog is a problem. Period. But people get this idea that it's fine to have a poorly-trained dog because it's 'not a pit bull'. And the same people promote a myth that all pit bulls are problematic.

It's just nonsense.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.

Demographics.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.


Independent rescues pull all the more adoptable dogs from the shelters. These are the healthy, easy to adopt ones, and ones that yield the highest adoption fees allowing the rescue to cover salaries, off set housing and food expenses etc. The pits get left in the shelters.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.


But who in their right mind buys a dog for “aggression”? Why are so many people doing this? This is the part I don’t understand.


MAGAs


lol. Almost certainly exactly the opposite demographic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.


But who in their right mind buys a dog for “aggression”? Why are so many people doing this? This is the part I don’t understand.


MAGAs


lol. Almost certainly exactly the opposite demographic.


+1 it’s the ultra-liberal “it’s racist to say pit bulls are more dangerous than golden retrievers” types.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because a lot of people who want pit bulls intentionally choose not to get them fixed which leads to a million pit bull mixes in shelters. People who actively seek out pits often like them for aggression, and think fixing them will decrease their aggression.

It's a frustrating cycle. And what we should really be doing is forcing pit owners to fix their dogs, going after breeders that cater to these owners, and really cracking down on backyard breeding, which is illegal. But the whole conversation gets disrupted by people who adopt pits from shelters, fall in love with their specific dog, and then become very defensive about the rep pit bulls have, and fight against "discrimination" against the breed. It's exhausting.

I increasingly think you should need to get a license in order to have a dog, in order to ensure responsible dog ownership, make sure animals get fixed, and make it easier to take dogs away from people who abuse them or are otherwise irresponsible with them.

Until then, yes, like 95% of shelter dogs are pits and pit mixes.


But who in their right mind buys a dog for “aggression”? Why are so many people doing this? This is the part I don’t understand.


MAGAs


lol. Almost certainly exactly the opposite demographic.


+1 it’s the ultra-liberal “it’s racist to say pit bulls are more dangerous than golden retrievers” types.


And yet, the tropes against these "libs" sound like standard MAGA nonsense.

You've never heard someone say that. Nobody has. Why would you even make that ridiculous non-argument?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’ve been trying to adopt a puppy/young dog for several months. Nearly every dog at the various shelters is a put bull or variation of pitbull mix. Why? I don’t get it. I don’t want a pit bull and frankly I don’t get how so many people have come to get a pit bull in the first place.


Independent rescues pull all the more adoptable dogs from the shelters. These are the healthy, easy to adopt ones, and ones that yield the highest adoption fees allowing the rescue to cover salaries, off set housing and food expenses etc. The pits get left in the shelters.


Wait, how is this even allowed? I had no idea that this was how it worked. So places like Lost Dog Rescue or whatever pull the cute sweet dogs from Fairfax County Animal Shelter and then they charge for them??
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