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Anonymous
That's...not evil, it's just experience with dogs and knowing genetics. That actually counts. I do hunts with various bird dog breeds and I wouldn't pick up a pit to join the pack, that's laughable. Maybe humans did this as they did all breeds but they were meant for bloodsport and that's that. |
Anonymous
I wouldn't pick a Husky to join your pack either. Or a Rottweiler. That doesn't mean they're bred for one thing and "that's that". "various bird dog breeds" are fine companion animals when properly trained and socialized to be, as are pit bulls. You are small-minded and your claim that it's "just experience with dogs and knowing genetics" is ridiculous. All dogs are dogs first, breeds second. They were all bred to work with humans. That's the whole point of dogs, which you'd know, if you actually knew half of what you claim to know. You don't know much about dogs, and you know less about pits. All bias, no substance. Stick with your bird hunting (though I doubt you know much about that either). |
Anonymous
You do realize that these mixed pits weren't bred for anything? |
Anonymous
If you look at the dog bit statistics, it’s not unreasonable to be significantly more worried about pit bulls vs most other dogs. Accepting reality isn’t bias. |
Anonymous
https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-multi-year-fatality-report-2005-2017.php 66% percent of dog fatalities are attributable to pit bulls. |
Anonymous
Once again, for all the idiots who think these statistics are meaningful: In order. For these numbers. To have context that creates meaning. You need. To show. The total number of all dogs. By breed. A scary stat like "pit bull bites are on the rise!!!11!!" without the context of "pit bull ownership is skyrocketing!!!11!!" makes people think 'pit bulls' are getting bitier. They are not. And if there are 10 bites from 10 pit bulls, holy wow, that's a lot of bites. If there are 10 bites from 100,000 pit bulls, that's not nearly as scary. Also. For the not-last time. "Pit bull" is NOT A BREED. It's 5 distinct breeds. So for your 'pit bull' stats to mean a damned thing, statistically-speaking, you'd need to specify what kind of 'pit bull-type dog' you're talking about, whether or not it's a mix, etc. If you really want accurate information about the breed and its propensity for biting, you'll need info about how the dogs that bite were kept (by whom, for how long...) and the circumstances surrounding the bite. But none of y'all actually want accurate information (aka facts). You just want to hate on "pit pulls". Every single one of these threads is stupid, as are the people who insist on bumping them with their new clickbait bite articles and garbage "statistics" 
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Anonymous
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Dr. Billmire is professor and director of the Division of Craniofacial and Pediatric Plastic Surgery at Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center.
——- As one who, for the last 30 years, has been on the receiving end of the dog-bite injuries that pass through the Children's Hospital Emergency Room, as well as on the staff at the Shriners Hospitals for Children where we see the late effects of these injuries from across the nation, I can categorically tell you that the problems associated with dog bites are indeed breed-specific. When I started my career, the most common dog-bite injuries were from German shepherds and occasionally retrievers. These injuries were almost always provoked, such as food-related or stepping on the dog, and in almost every instance, the dog reacted with a single snap and release – essentially a warning shot. There were no pack attacks. Starting about 25 years ago, my colleagues and I started to see disturbingly different types of injuries. Instead of a warning bite, we saw wounds where the flesh was torn from the victim. There were multiple bite wounds covering many different anatomical sites. The attacks were generally unprovoked, persistent and often involved more than one dog. In every instance the dog involved was a pit bull or a pit bull mix. Now, I am a dog lover and virtually every one of my family members has a dog. But it is a fact that different dogs have always been bred for specific qualities. My sheltie herded, my daughter's setter flushes birds and my pug sits on my lap – this is what they are bred for. Pit bulls were bred to fight and kill and, unfortunately, many current breeders favor these aggressive traits. There is no need for any dog with the characteristics. I recently gave a talk summarizing my 30 years of practice in pediatric plastic and reconstructive surgery, and one segment was titled "Why I Hate Pit Bulls." I watched a child bleed to death one night in our operating room because a pit bull had torn his throat out. I have had to rebuild the skull of a child who had his ears and entire scalp torn off. I am currently reconstructing the face of a child, half of whose face has been torn off down to the bone. I have had to rebuild noses, lips, eyelids, jaws and cheeks of numerous children. On older children, I have had to reconstruct legs and hands. The unfortunate young victim whose recent attack has initiated this discussion will bear the scars of this attack for the rest of her life. Based on my extensive experience, I believe that the risk posed by pit bulls is equivalent to placing a loaded gun with the safety off on the coffee table. In my opinion, these dogs should be banned. I know this is an unpopular stand in some circles, but how many mauled children do we have to see before we realize the folly of allowing these dogs to exist? The arguments made by advocates of these dogs are the same arguments made by people who feel that assault weapons are an essential part of daily living. There are plenty of breeds available that peacefully coexist with human society. There is no need for pit bulls. |
Anonymous
Whitecoat is biased. News at 11. Also? The recent multi-bite incident involving some celebrity I don't GAF about? A boxer, not a pit. Also also? "Starting 25 years ago..." So what happened? Genetically-modified "pit bulls"? Pack maulings are NOT what any of the 5 pit-type breeds were bred for, so somebody has some explaining to do... Also also also: If I had to clean up after violence, I'd be burned out and jaded, too. But that doesn't mean that all people are violent, nor does it mean that all "pit bulls" are guns. Also x4: The emotionally-manipulative writing = LOW FACTS. One doctor's alleged experience isn't fact. Makes great clickbait. Isn't reliable statistics. |
Anonymous
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In one of the most comprehensive studies of its kind, a CHOC-led team of researchers concluded that dog bites continue to be prevalent in the pediatric population, with children ages 1 to 5 most at risk and pit bulls likely to inflict the most severe injuries, while German shepherds are responsible for the highest number of injuries.
The study, a collaboration between CHOC’s trauma and plastic surgery departments, as well as researchers from other institutions, looked at nearly 1,000 CHOC patients who were identified as victims of a dog bite from 2013 to 2018. While many studies have identified trends in pediatric dog-bite injuries and interventions, this study is one of the first to stratify injury severity based on the type of surgical treatment required, said Dr. Raj Vyas, chief of plastic surgery at CHOC and co-author. “This study is a nice indicator of who might need surgery after suffering a dog bite, and that’s important because often when parents come to the ER, they want a plastic surgeon to treat their child’s wounds, but that only needs to be done less than 20 percent of the time,” Dr. Vyas said. Indeed, the study, published in November 2021 in the Western Journal of Emergency Medicine, found that repair by a surgical specialist was required only 17.1 percent of the time. A child’s head and neck are most vulnerable Most bites – 61.7% – were inflicted on the head and neck, followed by 20.6% on the hands or arms, and 13% on the feet or legs, the study found. In other key conclusions, children are bitten most frequently by a dog living in their home (33.4%), and the relative risk of a pediatric patient being bitten in a low-income area was 2.24-fold greater than the baseline risk of being bitten in the county. In contrast, the relative risk of a pediatric patient being bitten in a high-income area was 0.46. Researchers called this disparity “significant” and said the combination of inadequate resources for child supervision and large-breed dogs without robust training may account for the increased incidence of pediatric dog-bite injury in low-income households. Practical applications Dr. Ted Heyming, chair of emergency medicine at CHOC and co-author of the study, said delineating injury patterns in the high-risk pediatric population could lead to more streamlined care and guide future prevention efforts. “This study can help inform public policy decisions when it comes to dogs that are more prone to bite kids,” Dr. Heyming said. He added that the study could lead to more in-depth research on the topic. “Injury prevention work is critical at CHOC,” Dr. Heyming said, “and this study could lead to how CHOC could potentially work more closely with the county to help prevent dog bites.” Dog bites by breed Nearly 200 kids came to CHOC each year between 2013-18 to be treated for dog bites. Among cases where the breed of dog responsible was known, the study found that the dog breed most associated with severe bites was the pit bull (relative risk vs. German shepherd 8.53, relative risk vs. unknown, 3.28). Researchers found a significant association between breed and the requirement for surgical treatment by a specialist. The likelihood that the patient had been bitten by a pit bull increased as the level of intervention increased from no repair (6.0%) to repair in the operating room (25.8%). Pit bull bites were found to be significantly larger, deeper, and/or more complex than the average dog bites included in the study. Many studies have reported similar results of pit bull-related aggression, and the breed has been considered a public health risk, with several countries and U.S. cities having introduced breed-specific bans. |
Anonymous
https://care.choc.org/dog-bite-study-shows-youngest-kids-most-at-risk-which-breeds-inflict-the-most-severe-injuries/ |
Anonymous
For that statistic to not be meaningful ~66% of dogs would have to be pit bulls. You know perfectly well it’s not anything close to that. |
Anonymous
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https://www.fox5ny.com/news/nyc-pit-bull-attack-dog-upper-west-side
In NYC this week. Another pit bull attack. A local has come forward to update that these dogs killed one of her dogs this past year, and maimed the other. |
Anonymous
Well, yes. My research shows the number of ‘pit bull’ attacks is grossly underrepresented for this reason, eg because many dogs that are genetically one of the pit bull breed types are instead classified as ‘mixes’ or ‘lab mixes’. The most ironic stat is the dog who killed a kid who was classified as a ‘golden retriever’. Sorry, goldens don’t kill people. And if you see a pic of this dog, it’s clearly a pit mix. |
Anonymous
That 1st dog in the video is a presa or dogo, not a "pit bull". And if they're so deadly, how did a 10-pound chihuahua survive an attack by 2 of them? You want to freak out about "pit bulls" so I'll let you. But this is the same "stupid owners doing stupid stuff", and it's not about "pit bulls" at all. Also, dude who owned the Presa/Dogo is going to get popped for assault charges for pulling the human by the hair, which points pretty clearly at the source of the problem: that dude. |