Fight at Whitman

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people who run the Greentree shelter do a terrible job. They don’t have enough structures and supports and allow all kinds of atrocious things. I wish the state would regulate them. It would make a difference in how the kids behaved at school.


These are tough kids who have had a rough life and probably have mental health issues. Its MCPS not providing the support. Most of these kids probably can't read, write, or know basic math. If you have ever worked with these kids you'd know its far more complex. A lot of these kids are DJJ, not foster care.


These kids show up from Baltimore for a year at the shelter and then move on. There isn’t much the school can do other than triage when they wreak havoc. They need an intensive program. It will be interesting to see if Taylor decides to reopen the special schools (though it used to take an act of god to get a kid placed in those schools anyway because of the way special education law works). These shelter kids don’t have IEPs, so even if schools start documenting on day one, they often can’t get them the services and placement they would need to make growth.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My son is a Whitmam student. He claims the main agressor has been expelled and the student recording the fight has been suspended. Not sure about the second aggressor. This is from the student rumor mill so not sure about accuracy.


Expelled just means moved to another MCPS high school to become some other school community’s problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people who run the Greentree shelter do a terrible job. They don’t have enough structures and supports and allow all kinds of atrocious things. I wish the state would regulate them. It would make a difference in how the kids behaved at school.


These are tough kids who have had a rough life and probably have mental health issues. Its MCPS not providing the support. Most of these kids probably can't read, write, or know basic math. If you have ever worked with these kids you'd know its far more complex. A lot of these kids are DJJ, not foster care.


These kids show up from Baltimore for a year at the shelter and then move on. There isn’t much the school can do other than triage when they wreak havoc. They need an intensive program. It will be interesting to see if Taylor decides to reopen the special schools (though it used to take an act of god to get a kid placed in those schools anyway because of the way special education law works). These shelter kids don’t have IEPs, so even if schools start documenting on day one, they often can’t get them the services and placement they would need to make growth.


No,are from Montgomery county. Yes, some or all have ieps.
Anonymous
When a student wrote the N word on a desk at Wootton, it made the Washington Post, and the system removed the principal. By all accounts, the desk was later cleaned.

When a group of students beat the daylights out of a kid, and use the N word gratuitously, the principal remains.

Hard to believe the absurdity of this school system sometimes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the love of Pete, don’t go to the moms for Liberty site. They’re such a hateful organization.


You know what’s hateful? Gang beatings of defenseless child by foreign nationals. Get your head on straight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why isn't this aired out in Washington Post or other news outlets? Parents need to air this dirty laundry and shine a light on the incompetence. Embarrass the administration into fixing it.


Can you imagine what the response would be if a bunch of white kids beat a black kid like this?


My guess is they would be expelled


My guess is that west MoCo would have burned down by now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why hasn’t this made the news?


Anti white hate crimes never make the news. These images don’t support the proper narrative. Didn’t you get the memo?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Other kids at Whitman should band together and swarm the offenders and give them a retaliatory beating — strength in overwhelming numbers. If adults won’t protect these kids, they are going to have to take steps to protect themselves.


Most of the victims peers are scared, timid boys who have been taught from a young age that they’re to blame for every ill in society. They wouldn’t do a damn thing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When a student wrote the N word on a desk at Wootton, it made the Washington Post, and the system removed the principal. By all accounts, the desk was later cleaned.

When a group of students beat the daylights out of a kid, and use the N word gratuitously, the principal remains.

Hard to believe the absurdity of this school system sometimes.


The Wootton pinciple was put on leave because a) the school covered up the problem, and b) he ignored MCPS instructions to do schoolwide training before the semester began.
Anonymous
When the violent chaotic kids run amock a popular way to handle the situation is to fire a handful of teachers because they are powerless and they know it. I don't recommend this profession
Anonymous
Still don't know why this isn't making national headlines...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Still don't know why this isn't making national headlines...


Probably because there are too many fights of this nature.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The people who run the Greentree shelter do a terrible job. They don’t have enough structures and supports and allow all kinds of atrocious things. I wish the state would regulate them. It would make a difference in how the kids behaved at school.


These are tough kids who have had a rough life and probably have mental health issues. Its MCPS not providing the support. Most of these kids probably can't read, write, or know basic math. If you have ever worked with these kids you'd know its far more complex. A lot of these kids are DJJ, not foster care.


These kids show up from Baltimore for a year at the shelter and then move on. There isn’t much the school can do other than triage when they wreak havoc. They need an intensive program. It will be interesting to see if Taylor decides to reopen the special schools (though it used to take an act of god to get a kid placed in those schools anyway because of the way special education law works). These shelter kids don’t have IEPs, so even if schools start documenting on day one, they often can’t get them the services and placement they would need to make growth.


No,are from Montgomery county. Yes, some or all have ieps.


Umm, no. They are from. West Baltimore mostly. Some SC, a rare few from. The county.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My kids go to Wheaton and Einstein and I never hear about fights from them or others but I constantly hear about fights at BCC and Whitman. Why.?


County is clearly placing dangerous kids in a school with most highly functional (and highly resourced) kids hoping it will rub off.

-not in DMV but spouse who teaches in IB school and this is common occurrence
Anonymous
It sounds like Whitman contacted police as they should and punishment of the assailant is a police matter. Is this correct? There is not much more an individual school can do than call police and cooperate in investigation. The school system however needs a way to place expelled students that for whatever reason they are mandated to teach at a school for kids with behavioral issues that is staffed to manage these kids. This sounds like a school district/county problem not a Whitman problem. MCPS needs a school to help these kids and also protect other kids. Parents from all schools need to push MCPS/School board/County council on this.
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