Fight at Whitman

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still don't know why this isn't making national headlines...

This incident is a terrible one, but the fact that you think this should make national headlines shows just how privileged and sheltered you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids go to Wheaton and Einstein and I never hear about fights from them or others but I constantly hear about fights at BCC and Whitman. Why.?

County is clearly placing dangerous kids in a school with most highly functional (and highly resourced) kids hoping it will rub off.

-not in DMV but spouse who teaches in IB school and this is common occurrence

One way to ensure equal outcomes is to make sure nobody does well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whitman is probably the wealthiest school in an already wealthy county. For that reason, they have been vilified and guilted into taking various low income, disruptive students. Because why should well-off kids from nice backgrounds be able to live peacefully huh? They should be forced to live in terror too.

Now you see the end result of supposedly "compassionate" programs. It's really just score settling and old vendettas come to life. Resentment for the achieving and functional class and punishment for their children.

If Whitman parents dont do something about this they should be absolutely ashamed of themselves.

The facility where many of these troubled teens live has been there for the better part of a century, far longer than the homes most of the "well off kids" you seem to think should own the neighborhood.

So what? However long it's been there, if they cannot and will not act in a civilized manner, it's time to stop subsidizing it and allow the kids who's parents have actually paid to have property in the school district get a decent education without fear of being curb stomped in the bathroom. Have some basic empathy

But I assume you are ok with that sort of subsidized housing in other parts of the county?

If it's more aligned with the socio economic backgrounds of the students and not going to cause this kind of thievery and animosity, sure. Putting these kinds of kids among relatively sheltered offspring of nerdy government policy wonks is like feeding them to the wolves. The kids are utterly shocked by the level of savagery and totally unequipped to deal with it.

Wow. First of all, the idea that Whitman parents are mostly "nerdy government policy wonks" is hilarious. Those GS-15s are not buying homes in Potomac.

But the broader issue is that no child should be exposed to or experience this kind of violence at school. Not the pampered elite of the K Street lobbyists, not the kids whose parents crunch numbers at the GAO or EPA, and not the kids whose parents escaped repression and violence in Central America. None of them.

I want what is best for your kids, but you are happy to throw mine overboard. Nice.

wut?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Still don't know why this isn't making national headlines...

Really? National? Is that where you rank this?

The mind boggles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Still don't know why this isn't making national headlines...

Really? National? Is that where you rank this?

The mind boggles.

It's only "national" to the ^PP because it's happening at a nice white school. Fights happen at all schools, but they don't make it to national news unless it's like 200 kid brawl or something.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids go to Wheaton and Einstein and I never hear about fights from them or others but I constantly hear about fights at BCC and Whitman. Why.?

County is clearly placing dangerous kids in a school with most highly functional (and highly resourced) kids hoping it will rub off.

-not in DMV but spouse who teaches in IB school and this is common occurrence

yup. Gotta keep the brown and black poors out the nice white neighborhoods.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids go to Wheaton and Einstein and I never hear about fights from them or others but I constantly hear about fights at BCC and Whitman. Why.?

County is clearly placing dangerous kids in a school with most highly functional (and highly resourced) kids hoping it will rub off.

-not in DMV but spouse who teaches in IB school and this is common occurrence

yup. Gotta keep the brown and black poors out the nice white neighborhoods.

The reason we keep "poors," as you so distastefully called them, out of wealthy neighborhoods is because Capitalism works. People talk much about how Capitalism rewards innovation and hardwork. To some degree, that's true, but what Capitalism really rewards-across the board- is puritanical culture. Don't be rude, don't, be violent, do keep your neighbor's in mind when making decisions, do be responsible for your own actions.
The reward for those behaviors is good jobs that pay well enough to leave behind those who don't adhere to those rules of society.

The longer you can't face that simple socioeconomic fact, the longer people will be held down.

[Anonymous]

This is what we voted for. There used to be a school just for kids with behavioral issues -- Twain. We elected the BOE members that voted to close it down. One reason was racial disparity: "While blacks make up 23 percent of the district’s student population, they make up 58 percent of the students at Mark Twain, reflective of nationwide trends labeling more black students, especially boys, with emotional and behavioral disorders."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1432305/montgomery-to-close-full-day-program-for-emotionally-troubled-middle-high-schoolers/

And we voted for Elrich and Jawando, that were key in eliminating SROs (police) from schools:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/montgomery-county-removes-school-resource-officers-kind-of

""But to the point of moving in the direction of ending the disproportionate harm that’s happening in the form of arrest for students of color, students with disabilities, this is a good step in the right direction.," said Jawando.

Well.. you get what you vote for..

[Anonymous]

His kids are in a private Quaker school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is what we voted for. There used to be a school just for kids with behavioral issues -- Twain. We elected the BOE members that voted to close it down. One reason was racial disparity: "While blacks make up 23 percent of the district’s student population, they make up 58 percent of the students at Mark Twain, reflective of nationwide trends labeling more black students, especially boys, with emotional and behavioral disorders."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1432305/montgomery-to-close-full-day-program-for-emotionally-troubled-middle-high-schoolers/

And we voted for Elrich and Jawando, that were key in eliminating SROs (police) from schools:
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/montgomery-county-removes-school-resource-officers-kind-of

""But to the point of moving in the direction of ending the disproportionate harm that’s happening in the form of arrest for students of color, students with disabilities, this is a good step in the right direction.," said Jawando.

Well.. you get what you vote for..

I actually looked at that study because I was curious and I think that when you controlled for poverty rates, Black students were actually under-represented at Twain. It wasn’t race that was driving them there, it was poverty.

We definitely need different solutions for kids that are coming from deeply disadvantaged situations. Just moving them around different schools where they will feel increasingly alienated is not an answer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids go to Wheaton and Einstein and I never hear about fights from them or others but I constantly hear about fights at BCC and Whitman. Why.?

County is clearly placing dangerous kids in a school with most highly functional (and highly resourced) kids hoping it will rub off.

-not in DMV but spouse who teaches in IB school and this is common occurrence

yup. Gotta keep the brown and black poors out the nice white neighborhoods.

The reason we keep "poors," as you so distastefully called them, out of wealthy neighborhoods is because Capitalism works. People talk much about how Capitalism rewards innovation and hardwork. To some degree, that's true, but what Capitalism really rewards-across the board- is puritanical culture. Don't be rude, don't, be violent, do keep your neighbor's in mind when making decisions, do be responsible for your own actions.
The reward for those behaviors is good jobs that pay well enough to leave behind those who don't adhere to those rules of society.

The longer you can't face that simple socioeconomic fact, the longer people will be held down.

You truly have no clues of what capitalism is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids go to Wheaton and Einstein and I never hear about fights from them or others but I constantly hear about fights at BCC and Whitman. Why.?

County is clearly placing dangerous kids in a school with most highly functional (and highly resourced) kids hoping it will rub off.

-not in DMV but spouse who teaches in IB school and this is common occurrence

yup. Gotta keep the brown and black poors out the nice white neighborhoods.

The reason we keep "poors," as you so distastefully called them, out of wealthy neighborhoods is because Capitalism works. People talk much about how Capitalism rewards innovation and hardwork. To some degree, that's true, but what Capitalism really rewards-across the board- is puritanical culture. Don't be rude, don't, be violent, do keep your neighbor's in mind when making decisions, do be responsible for your own actions.
The reward for those behaviors is good jobs that pay well enough to leave behind those who don't adhere to those rules of society.

The longer you can't face that simple socioeconomic fact, the longer people will be held down.

You truly have no clues of what capitalism is.

Ok - have fun in your double-wide.

[Anonymous]

Why is this thread even still going? Y’all are just projecting your political bias onto this unfortunate incident. Give it a rest and move on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His kids are in a private Quaker school.

Whose kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When a student wrote the N word on a desk at Wootton, it made the Washington Post, and the system removed the principal. By all accounts, the desk was later cleaned.

When a group of students beat the daylights out of a kid, and use the N word gratuitously, the principal remains.

Hard to believe the absurdity of this school system sometimes.

The Wootton pinciple was put on leave because a) the school covered up the problem, and b) he ignored MCPS instructions to do training before the semester began.

It’s Principal, not principle. Your “cover up” story is BS. What did you want the P to do, stand outside every day waiting for a kid to yell from a car then go chase after it? Or maybe sit in the back of every classroom to see who scribbled on a desk? You ruined a good man’s life and reputation by spreading false narratives.

You must be very pleased with yourself.