UMich is out

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster upthread with an URM who was deferred with several A minuses. It's interesting that Michigan views these as straight As.
It was pretty clear on the app that he's URM (national SAT recognition award, another award, extracurriculars, etc.) which i thought would help. It's interesting that Jewish and Asians are admitted in large percentages but not URM.
It's fine and he has other great choices already and hopefully more to come.

Michigan banned affirmative action in 2006! URMs will get deferred with everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Friend of my DC, TO, 6 AP's, 3.72 GPA, Accepted as LSA. They are a real doer, school newspaper, varsity sport, etc.

Those are mid stats. Last year DD deferred with over 4.0 Varsity Captain, Editor in Chief newspaper. IB Diploma. Interesting that kid got in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster upthread with an URM who was deferred with several A minuses. It's interesting that Michigan views these as straight As.
It was pretty clear on the app that he's URM (national SAT recognition award, another award, extracurriculars, etc.) which i thought would help. It's interesting that Jewish and Asians are admitted in large percentages but not URM.
It's fine and he has other great choices already and hopefully more to come.

Michigan banned affirmative action in 2006! URMs will get deferred with everyone else.

Get real. There may no longer be a box but the discriminatory programs to brong on URMs and first-gens (a proxy for same) continues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/09/14/before-asian-americans-sued-harvard-the-school-tried-restricting-the-number-of-jews/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/07/28/how-the-sat-came-to-rule-college-admissions/

Yes, Michigan was welcoming at a time when others were antisemitic. The gratitude was passed down through the generations.

Exactly, Arthur Miller went to Michigan (from Brooklyn) in the 1930s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster upthread with an URM who was deferred with several A minuses. It's interesting that Michigan views these as straight As.
It was pretty clear on the app that he's URM (national SAT recognition award, another award, extracurriculars, etc.) which i thought would help. It's interesting that Jewish and Asians are admitted in large percentages but not URM.
It's fine and he has other great choices already and hopefully more to come.

Michigan banned affirmative action in 2006! URMs will get deferred with everyone else.

Get real. There may no longer be a box but the discriminatory programs to brong on URMs and first-gens (a proxy for same) continues.

NP. I don't think there are likely to be discriminatory programs. However, the university will always be under pressure to have more URMs, in part because the federal govt requires universities to report this data publicly. Accordingly, any indication in an app that an applicant is URM probably gets the app a thorough read, implicitly. There would be no notes, no email discussion, and no tracking of the numbers at the admission stage.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Friend of my DC, TO, 6 AP's, 3.72 GPA, Accepted as LSA. They are a real doer, school newspaper, varsity sport, etc.

Those are mid stats. Last year DD deferred with over 4.0 Varsity Captain, Editor in Chief newspaper. IB Diploma. Interesting that kid got in.

It shows there is more to the application than just stats. My DC was accepted (yes, with higher stats), but had a really good, really specific "why us" essay. That is where the AO gets an idea if the student will be a good fit for the school.

[Anonymous]

If you want to go to Michigan OOS, it helps to be Jewish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you want to go to Michigan OOS, it helps to be Jewish.

Didn’t help my DD

[Anonymous]

That’s a weird thing to say. Didn’t help my DC either.

[Anonymous]

Did Michigan reject anyone who applied EA or did they only postpone or accept?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm the poster upthread with an URM who was deferred with several A minuses. It's interesting that Michigan views these as straight As.
It was pretty clear on the app that he's URM (national SAT recognition award, another award, extracurriculars, etc.) which i thought would help. It's interesting that Jewish and Asians are admitted in large percentages but not URM.
It's fine and he has other great choices already and hopefully more to come.

Michigan has a holistic review process and is forbidden to use race-based affirmative action. And there is no legacy bump.

What people are saying is that legacy Jewish kids may have more credibility explaining why they want to go to Michigan. And their high schools may have a good track record of sending attendees. That yield may be a factor.

What I hear from Asian-American community members is more along the line of "all nerds are equally welcome". Their comments make it sound like they trust that there's less of the "lower rating for personality" bias that was uncovered at Harvard.

What is objectively true is that there are a lot of Asian-Americans in Michigan with high SAT scores. The Detroit Metro area has a lot of highly-educated Asian immigrants in the engineering and medical professions. So their kids are well-represented among the top in-state kids. You can just eyeball the list of Presidential Scholars to see this.

Michigan has to be using some rough GPA and SAT cutoffs for in-state kids to handle the apps. In our school, there's a sharp bright line in SCOIR at 3.8 unweighted. And clearly a high SAT (1400+) helps a lot. So, I think in-state Asian-American students with high SATs are in a good place to get past initial screenings.

Postponed is not rejected.

You don't actually know but your kid may have received some scoring points for the things you hoped would be accounted for. But I hope your kid also had some convincing reasons why they wanted to attend.

Good luck to your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCPS deferred. SAT 1580, UW GPA 4.0, highest rigor, 15+AP (including senior year). Great ECs with leadership, multiple national level awards.
This whole process is BS.

Now now, your kid will get into a good school.

You need to help them put this news into perspective. (Did you not know that their OOS acceptance rate is 18%?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Accepted!!

Congratulations!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:URM with a 1530, straight As at a Big3 private (a few A minuses). Top extracurriculars, etc. Deferred.

15 years ago that profile would have been a HYP admit.