Backlash against college educated women

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

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Sounds like you spend a lot of time online. Nobody talks about all these things IRL.


Right the idea that my 13-year-old now thinks that she wants to be a boy is just online. Sure
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Well said. I used to be an Obama voting liberal. These people make me want to buy a truck and adorn it with a fake ballsack, or go work for ICE or something. Absolutely repellent.


Sure you voted for Obama-we believe you


I voted for Obama and was a huge Democrat just like my parents. All my friends were Democrats, and I fully believed in hope and change when I voted in 2008.

After I met DH, I gradually became more and more conservative. I have to tell you it's amazing how much more fun I have now.


You just admitted to being a follower basically. Which tracks.


NP. Idk. I’m a Harris-voting Democrat and in general the people I know who are either far right or far left tend to be equally miserable, but I’d say that of the folks clustered more towards the middle, the happier ones skew a bit more conservative.


Could be because they are more selfish?
Anonymous
I mean, if it is a backlash against college educated white women, what is your plan? I say this as part of the 53%. So 47%ers, what's your play here? I don't see a "so what" in any of this. People don't like the shrill, dramatic, self righteous tone of the feminine left. Is the move to just do it more and harder?

I was having these thoughts as Joy Anne Reid lectured me about how black women voted for Harris in substantially greater numbers than white women. Is that the play, to complain to Democrats that there are Republicans who share a demographic? I don't understand what this kind of discussion is intended to do. I know who I voted for. I did it on purpose. And then after the election, I watched MSNBC for like a week and laughed and laughed at everything they said.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a massive backlash against women. Look at these cabinet nominees! How many have had sexual assault/harassment charges? Completely gross! Women are paying for the lonely boy pathology of these bros.


I think the issue is that we've had women in institutions for a generation now. Can anyone point to an institution that is--in an absolute sense--better with women involved in leadership? Look at universities: The parties are lamer, the grades are easier, the number of useless degrees has proliferated, the quality of scholarship has declined (see, e.g., the replication crisis), and the ability to debate has evaporated. All that has happened as women have become a larger portion of faculties, administrative leadership, and student bodies.


We’ve had men in MOST leadership positions in this country for hundreds of years! It that why things are soooooo great?


This is a joke, right? Or are you that blinkered by your own privilege?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

I think the issue is that we've had women in institutions for a generation now. Can anyone point to an institution that is--in an absolute sense--better with women involved in leadership? Look at universities: The parties are lamer, the grades are easier, the number of useless degrees has proliferated, the quality of scholarship has declined (see, e.g., the replication crisis), and the ability to debate has evaporated. All that has happened as women have become a larger portion of faculties, administrative leadership, and student bodies.


University presidents, full-time and tenure track faculty are still overwhelmingly (white) men.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why do I feel this election was a backlash against college educated women more than anything else? And why does that scare me?

To me it's gaslighting to hear men claim that colleges are indoctrination centers and that young women are radicalized and need to be deprogrammed.

It's like the social media pundits on the right have successfully learned how to DARVO, turn it all around, deny centuries of women having no rights, and women are believing it.



I am a college educated woman, and you are trying to ascribe a uniformity of thought amongst us that doesn’t exist. Many liberal college educated women that post on this forum are single issue abortion voters. They believe women have no rights if Roe isn’t restored on a nationwide basis. Many of these women insisted that women would vote as a block against Trump over abortion rights. However, that did not happen in the election, because a large percentage of us are not single issue abortion voters. Those of us that voted for Donald Trump rejected the liberal argument that we should vote on abortion rights. We found other issues like the economy and immigration to be far more important and impactful to our daily lives.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Well said. I used to be an Obama voting liberal. These people make me want to buy a truck and adorn it with a fake ballsack, or go work for ICE or something. Absolutely repellent.


Sure you voted for Obama-we believe you


I voted for Obama and was a huge Democrat just like my parents. All my friends were Democrats, and I fully believed in hope and change when I voted in 2008.

After I met DH, I gradually became more and more conservative. I have to tell you it's amazing how much more fun I have now.


You just admitted to being a follower basically. Which tracks.


NP. Idk. I’m a Harris-voting Democrat and in general the people I know who are either far right or far left tend to be equally miserable, but I’d say that of the folks clustered more towards the middle, the happier ones skew a bit more conservative.


Could be because they are more selfish?


DP. This is just something you tell yourself to appease your own ego. In fact, many college-educated types selfishly use their "morality" as a means to appease their own egos and need for elevated status. Moral superiority masked as benevolence is their currency. It's very cynical in a way.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Sounds like you spend a lot of time online. Nobody talks about all these things IRL.


Right the idea that my 13-year-old now thinks that she wants to be a boy is just online. Sure


I’m sorry, who again is “obsessed with gay and transgender issues”?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a massive backlash against women. Look at these cabinet nominees! How many have had sexual assault/harassment charges? Completely gross! Women are paying for the lonely boy pathology of these bros.


I think the issue is that we've had women in institutions for a generation now. Can anyone point to an institution that is--in an absolute sense--better with women involved in leadership? Look at universities: The parties are lamer, the grades are easier, the number of useless degrees has proliferated, the quality of scholarship has declined (see, e.g., the replication crisis), and the ability to debate has evaporated. All that has happened as women have become a larger portion of faculties, administrative leadership, and student bodies.


Globally, countries with a larger proportion of women in government leadership positions tend to have fewer population deaths by violent military conflict. It’s actually pretty closely correlated.

My personal theory is that women in government leadership means that these are societies where women have more control over birth control, meaning that there isn’t a well of young men to send into the grinder of war, because birth rates decline. That leads to stability because the leadership prioritizes keeping the young men of these societies alive. It also leads to existential questions about population collapse, but if your goal for governance is, at a basic level, to keep more of your population out of armed military conflict, women in leadership have done much better.

Essentially, women in government leadership roles is a proxy for a higher value placed on the lives of young men.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Well said. I used to be an Obama voting liberal. These people make me want to buy a truck and adorn it with a fake ballsack, or go work for ICE or something. Absolutely repellent.


Sure you voted for Obama-we believe you


I voted for Obama and was a huge Democrat just like my parents. All my friends were Democrats, and I fully believed in hope and change when I voted in 2008.

After I met DH, I gradually became more and more conservative. I have to tell you it's amazing how much more fun I have now.


You just admitted to being a follower basically. Which tracks.


NP. Idk. I’m a Harris-voting Democrat and in general the people I know who are either far right or far left tend to be equally miserable, but I’d say that of the folks clustered more towards the middle, the happier ones skew a bit more conservative.


Could be because they are more selfish?


I don’t think so, based on what I see. I think they place a greater value on family and spending time with family, and that makes them happier.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a massive backlash against women. Look at these cabinet nominees! How many have had sexual assault/harassment charges? Completely gross! Women are paying for the lonely boy pathology of these bros.


I think the issue is that we've had women in institutions for a generation now. Can anyone point to an institution that is--in an absolute sense--better with women involved in leadership? Look at universities: The parties are lamer, the grades are easier, the number of useless degrees has proliferated, the quality of scholarship has declined (see, e.g., the replication crisis), and the ability to debate has evaporated. All that has happened as women have become a larger portion of faculties, administrative leadership, and student bodies.


Globally, countries with a larger proportion of women in government leadership positions tend to have fewer population deaths by violent military conflict. It’s actually pretty closely correlated.

My personal theory is that women in government leadership means that these are societies where women have more control over birth control, meaning that there isn’t a well of young men to send into the grinder of war, because birth rates decline. That leads to stability because the leadership prioritizes keeping the young men of these societies alive. It also leads to existential questions about population collapse, but if your goal for governance is, at a basic level, to keep more of your population out of armed military conflict, women in leadership have done much better.

Essentially, women in government leadership roles is a proxy for a higher value placed on the lives of young men.


The trouble with this is that it assumes that demographics are deterministic of ideology. That Kamala can use more hawkish rhetoric and Trump can use more isolationist rhetoric, but we should just ignore all that because girls don't like war. Is that what you want us to believe?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Well said. I used to be an Obama voting liberal. These people make me want to buy a truck and adorn it with a fake ballsack, or go work for ICE or something. Absolutely repellent.


Sure you voted for Obama-we believe you


I voted for Obama and was a huge Democrat just like my parents. All my friends were Democrats, and I fully believed in hope and change when I voted in 2008.

After I met DH, I gradually became more and more conservative. I have to tell you it's amazing how much more fun I have now.


You just admitted to being a follower basically. Which tracks.


NP. Idk. I’m a Harris-voting Democrat and in general the people I know who are either far right or far left tend to be equally miserable, but I’d say that of the folks clustered more towards the middle, the happier ones skew a bit more conservative.


Could be because they are more selfish?


I don’t think so, based on what I see. I think they place a greater value on family and spending time with family, and that makes them happier.


And they dont send their daughters to college apparently. Ignorance is bliss. Only it is really not.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a massive backlash against women. Look at these cabinet nominees! How many have had sexual assault/harassment charges? Completely gross! Women are paying for the lonely boy pathology of these bros.


I think the issue is that we've had women in institutions for a generation now. Can anyone point to an institution that is--in an absolute sense--better with women involved in leadership? Look at universities: The parties are lamer, the grades are easier, the number of useless degrees has proliferated, the quality of scholarship has declined (see, e.g., the replication crisis), and the ability to debate has evaporated. All that has happened as women have become a larger portion of faculties, administrative leadership, and student bodies.


We’ve had men in MOST leadership positions in this country for hundreds of years! It that why things are soooooo great?


I mean yes. What other society would you prefer to live in?

While I don’t disagree with the PP, a lot of the nonsense that these College educated women believe are ideologies initiated by men:
Anti - racism - Kendi
Critical legal theory - Unger
Marx
Transgender/transexual - John money
Intersectionality with Crenshaw is an exception.

But yes, women are pulled into these nonsensical ideologies at higher rates than men. I believe the poster on the first page correctly attributed this to women’s long observed tendency to be more religious than men. In this case as an atheist I agree that they are better served following Christianity than harmful pseudo intellectual nonsense.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a massive backlash against women. Look at these cabinet nominees! How many have had sexual assault/harassment charges? Completely gross! Women are paying for the lonely boy pathology of these bros.


I think the issue is that we've had women in institutions for a generation now. Can anyone point to an institution that is--in an absolute sense--better with women involved in leadership? Look at universities: The parties are lamer, the grades are easier, the number of useless degrees has proliferated, the quality of scholarship has declined (see, e.g., the replication crisis), and the ability to debate has evaporated. All that has happened as women have become a larger portion of faculties, administrative leadership, and student bodies.


Globally, countries with a larger proportion of women in government leadership positions tend to have fewer population deaths by violent military conflict. It’s actually pretty closely correlated.

My personal theory is that women in government leadership means that these are societies where women have more control over birth control, meaning that there isn’t a well of young men to send into the grinder of war, because birth rates decline. That leads to stability because the leadership prioritizes keeping the young men of these societies alive. It also leads to existential questions about population collapse, but if your goal for governance is, at a basic level, to keep more of your population out of armed military conflict, women in leadership have done much better.

Essentially, women in government leadership roles is a proxy for a higher value placed on the lives of young men.


Please post your source. There is a body of literature that suggests that female leaders have historically been more bellicose, owing to their insecurity and overcompensation for being perceived as weak. It's like those female cops that freak out, lose their composure and needlessly shoot people or escalate situations because they know they are physically weaker and need to somehow assert "control" over the situation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Sounds like you spend a lot of time online. Nobody talks about all these things IRL.


Right the idea that my 13-year-old now thinks that she wants to be a boy is just online. Sure



Some of that is a totally normal phase. It doesn’t always mean your daughter is trans. When girls go through puberty, it’s a rough transition. Society dumps a lot crap on girls.

This whole thread is about the backlash against women. Why would girl want to grow up with the current hostility towards women? You’ve got a bunch of men, who never gave a ***t about women’s sports, suddenly pull a pseudo macho claim about trans in girls sports, which affects almost no one. But the turn around and elect serial predator Trump (adjudicated rapist and caught on tape saying terrible things about women). Trump turns around and nominates a bunch of deviants (sex trafficker, etc). So yes, what girl wants to grow up and deal with a society in which an adjudicated rapist is President??
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