Backlash against college educated women

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Well said. I used to be an Obama voting liberal. These people make me want to buy a truck and adorn it with a fake ballsack, or go work for ICE or something. Absolutely repellent.


Sure you voted for Obama-we believe you


I voted for Obama and was a huge Democrat just like my parents. All my friends were Democrats, and I fully believed in hope and change when I voted in 2008.

After I met DH, I gradually became more and more conservative. I have to tell you it's amazing how much more fun I have now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

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I feel sorry for you, because this reeks with the desperation of a pick me girl.

But I feel much so much worse for your kids.


I’m sorry, but this response is an example of Carville’s “preachy female.” Also a validation of the critique of sucking the fun out of everything. Rather than engage on substance, it is (a) fake empathy, (b) followed by name calling and (c) then even more fake empathy about how she feels so much worse for your kids. The response is not designed to engage the topic but rather shut down the previous poster by shaming the poster into silence by presupposing the intellectual and emotional superiority of the responding poster.

The “weird” label on Vance worked for a few weeks this summer because it appealed to the same feminine style of persuasion (mean girl, group validation, rejection of the “unapproved” different). But once people got to know Vance the impact of the label faded away and to non-core Democrats Vance came out of the summer as an asset to the Trump campaign.

Y’all can keep doing what you’re doing, but when Carville tells you it is a problem it light be worth thinking about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There is a massive backlash against women. Look at these cabinet nominees! How many have had sexual assault/harassment charges? Completely gross! Women are paying for the lonely boy pathology of these bros.


I think the issue is that we've had women in institutions for a generation now. Can anyone point to an institution that is--in an absolute sense--better with women involved in leadership? Look at universities: The parties are lamer, the grades are easier, the number of useless degrees has proliferated, the quality of scholarship has declined (see, e.g., the replication crisis), and the ability to debate has evaporated. All that has happened as women have become a larger portion of faculties, administrative leadership, and student bodies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's a backlash against all women, not just college educated women.


This.
And it’s not just about in the workplace.
There is a move to change social mores about women’s choices over their bodies.
See recent cabinet nominees with sexual assault allegations. If it’s ok for “leaders” then it will become ok for certain men (white).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a backlash against all women, not just college educated women.


This.
And it’s not just about in the workplace.
There is a move to change social mores about women’s choices over their bodies.
See recent cabinet nominees with sexual assault allegations. If it’s ok for “leaders” then it will become ok for certain men (white).


Civilization has controlled women for millennia. There are two ways to look at that history. All civilizations were cruelly and unnecessarily harming women, or those civilizations understood that to thrive and grow, they needed to reduce women's influence.

Honestly, based on the way things have gone since 1971 (when women were happier), I'm starting to wonder.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a backlash against all women, not just college educated women.


This.
And it’s not just about in the workplace.
There is a move to change social mores about women’s choices over their bodies.
See recent cabinet nominees with sexual assault allegations. If it’s ok for “leaders” then it will become ok for certain men (white).


Civilization has controlled women for millennia. There are two ways to look at that history. All civilizations were cruelly and unnecessarily harming women, or those civilizations understood that to thrive and grow, they needed to reduce women's influence.

Honestly, based on the way things have gone since 1971 (when women were happier), I'm starting to wonder.


I think it’s both. They needed to reduce women’s influence to thrive and grow in a way that favors men, and if ever the balance got out of whack, they remembered that they’re physically stronger and resorted to cruel and unnecessary harm.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a massive backlash against women. Look at these cabinet nominees! How many have had sexual assault/harassment charges? Completely gross! Women are paying for the lonely boy pathology of these bros.


I think the issue is that we've had women in institutions for a generation now. Can anyone point to an institution that is--in an absolute sense--better with women involved in leadership? Look at universities: The parties are lamer, the grades are easier, the number of useless degrees has proliferated, the quality of scholarship has declined (see, e.g., the replication crisis), and the ability to debate has evaporated. All that has happened as women have become a larger portion of faculties, administrative leadership, and student bodies.


Some of this phenomenon is laid out here. The different impulses and proclivities of the sexes lead to different institutional character. On top of that we've had to endure the silly canard coming from some circles that men and women are the same. Just a lot of foolishness and delusional thinking.

https://quillette.com/2022/10/08/sex-and-the-academy/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Well said. I used to be an Obama voting liberal. These people make me want to buy a truck and adorn it with a fake ballsack, or go work for ICE or something. Absolutely repellent.


Sure you voted for Obama-we believe you



It's fascinating that you don't believe people ever change their views, ever evolve, etc in spite of all polling data proving otherwise. Party of "science" lol.


Now do Kamala changing her mind. You guys kept hammering her on that.


No, you misunderstand the criticism. She lacked any conviction. She wanted everything, all at the same time. She wanted to seize all guns and also be a gun owner. She wanted to support poor parents and also imprison them if their kids are truant. You can't trust someone who is this inconsistent. Trust is predicated on being predictable. She's wildly unpredictable.


So are you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Well said. I used to be an Obama voting liberal. These people make me want to buy a truck and adorn it with a fake ballsack, or go work for ICE or something. Absolutely repellent.


Sure you voted for Obama-we believe you


I voted for Obama and was a huge Democrat just like my parents. All my friends were Democrats, and I fully believed in hope and change when I voted in 2008.

After I met DH, I gradually became more and more conservative. I have to tell you it's amazing how much more fun I have now.


Yeah. Hating on people is fun.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a backlash against all women, not just college educated women.


This.
And it’s not just about in the workplace.
There is a move to change social mores about women’s choices over their bodies.
See recent cabinet nominees with sexual assault allegations. If it’s ok for “leaders” then it will become ok for certain men (white).


Civilization has controlled women for millennia. There are two ways to look at that history.
All civilizations were cruelly and unnecessarily harming women, or those civilizations understood that to thrive and grow, they needed to reduce women's influence.

Honestly, based on the way things have gone since 1971
(when women were happier),[b] I'm starting to wonder.



What is this sourced from?
This sounds like a fancy way of a man saying “I know what’s best and you should be happy.”

Why do you think women were protesting in the streets in 1971? It wasn’t because they were happy with the status quo.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Well said. I used to be an Obama voting liberal. These people make me want to buy a truck and adorn it with a fake ballsack, or go work for ICE or something. Absolutely repellent.


Sure you voted for Obama-we believe you


I voted for Obama and was a huge Democrat just like my parents. All my friends were Democrats, and I fully believed in hope and change when I voted in 2008.

After I met DH, I gradually became more and more conservative. I have to tell you it's amazing how much more fun I have now.


You just admitted to being a follower basically. Which tracks.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why do I feel this election was a backlash against college educated women more than anything else? And why does that scare me?

To me it's gaslighting to hear men claim that colleges are indoctrination centers and that young women are radicalized and need to be deprogrammed.

It's like the social media pundits on the right have successfully learned how to DARVO, turn it all around, deny centuries of women having no rights, and women are believing it.



It wasn’t a backlash against college educated women. It was a backlash against the failed Biden-Harris liberal agenda.

However, I am a college educated woman, and I wholeheartedly agree that colleges are liberal indoctrination centers. There is no ideological diversity at most college campuses. There is a uniformity of liberal group think. When I was in college and after I graduated, I was fairly liberal. It wasn’t until I experienced the real world that I realized how destructive a lot of the liberal agenda is and essentially became a Republican voter. I’m not a big fan of the Republican Party. However, the Democrat party has been pushed far to the left by ultra liberal progressives. They are now out of touch with much of the country and have essentially abandoned working class voters to become the party of coastal elites.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's a backlash against all women, not just college educated women.


This.
And it’s not just about in the workplace.
There is a move to change social mores about women’s choices over their bodies.
See recent cabinet nominees with sexual assault allegations. If it’s ok for “leaders” then it will become ok for certain men (white).


Civilization has controlled women for millennia. There are two ways to look at that history. All civilizations were cruelly and unnecessarily harming women, or those civilizations understood that to thrive and grow, they needed to reduce women's influence.

Honestly, based on the way things have gone since 1971 (when women were happier), I'm starting to wonder.


I think it’s both. They needed to reduce women’s influence to thrive and grow in a way that favors men, and if ever the balance got out of whack, they remembered that they’re physically stronger and resorted to cruel and unnecessary harm.


Women, in general, are more suited to the particular and the relational and less suited to the abstract and detached calculus needed to order civilization in a way that will not lead loss for most everyone involved. As a group, college-educated women in particular are too self-regarding and have little sense of honor, duty or accountability. This is evidenced by their total lack of regard for the plight of women "lower" than them on the economic and educational totem pole. It is folly to try to contrive order in a society crafted for the appeasement of the exceptions to time-tested general rules. The hubris of humanity can never and will never win in a contest with the Almighty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a massive backlash against women. Look at these cabinet nominees! How many have had sexual assault/harassment charges? Completely gross! Women are paying for the lonely boy pathology of these bros.


I think the issue is that we've had women in institutions for a generation now. Can anyone point to an institution that is--in an absolute sense--better with women involved in leadership? Look at universities: The parties are lamer, the grades are easier, the number of useless degrees has proliferated, the quality of scholarship has declined (see, e.g., the replication crisis), and the ability to debate has evaporated. All that has happened as women have become a larger portion of faculties, administrative leadership, and student bodies.


We’ve had men in MOST leadership positions in this country for hundreds of years! It that why things are soooooo great?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I can answer this one (and am a college educated white woman).

Liberal college educated white women suck the fun out of every.single.thing and make a big dramatic deal out of every.single.thing. It is annoying AF. Even to me. Imagine how a working class guy feels.

-their child rearing ideas are annoying AF and filter into our schools & children’s activities. Constantly harping and focusing on sugar, diversity, the environment, fairness, ZOMG Larlo’s dad served peanut butter!!!! blah blah. They have a fit if you give their kid a cookie for birthday or team snack. Fun suck.

-constant focus on racial issues and DEI that even people of the supposed “discriminated race or gender” do not EVEN REMOTELY agree with. Taking offense to silly jokes or language that even people of the “discriminate race or gender” think are funny. And they think you are annoying, a PITA, and all “Karens”

-ruining assorted cultural celebrations with your BS and whining

-weird ideas about gender and sexuality that no one actually agrees with at all

-anti Christian nonsense. I’m a freaking atheist and annoyed by the “it’s a WINTER party, not a Christian party” BS. Who cares?!

- hysteria surrounding Donald Trump. I do not like him either, but he is not Hitler, sexist, racist etc.

- obsession with gay and transgender issues

-horrendous ideas about public education in general

-COVID obsession and germaphobia that lasted for years and severely damaged public education

-censorship and/or attempted censorship

I could do this all day long and list approximately 50 more things. You are no fun and ruin so many things, judgy and annoying, whiny AF, overdramatic and so much more. Most people largely want to be left alone and do not want to listen to constant lectures and finger wagging- and have long ago lost patience with you.

Take a look in the mirror.

-





Well said. I used to be an Obama voting liberal. These people make me want to buy a truck and adorn it with a fake ballsack, or go work for ICE or something. Absolutely repellent.


Sure you voted for Obama-we believe you


I voted for Obama and was a huge Democrat just like my parents. All my friends were Democrats, and I fully believed in hope and change when I voted in 2008.

After I met DH, I gradually became more and more conservative. I have to tell you it's amazing how much more fun I have now.


You just admitted to being a follower basically. Which tracks.


NP. Idk. I’m a Harris-voting Democrat and in general the people I know who are either far right or far left tend to be equally miserable, but I’d say that of the folks clustered more towards the middle, the happier ones skew a bit more conservative.
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