Stats on how many white kids at each high school

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Anonymous wrote:I would really hate to be that one white kid at one of those schools. I imagine they are probably relentlessly singled out and teased.

Not necessarily. The white valedictorian of an all black DC high school described her experience in her graduation speech. She said that the first day she entered, everyone looked at her and after that she felt she was just an accepted member of the school. It’s probably lot like that for everyone but that was what she conveyed.

Did the paper report that her GPA was only 2.7

If the was valedictorian, then why does that matter? She was top of her class. Maybe that school doesn't have grade inflation.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.

The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.

How about taking this message instead:

White people are uncomfortable if their child is zoned for a school and that school makes it clear that their child is not welcome.

The future is multicultural. Just because DC has been "Chocolate City" in the past doesn't mean that's its future. Is there some tension around this? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.

Is it also understandable that white parents who pay taxes and have committed to this city want their child to be explicitly welcomed through words and actions into the school they are zoned for? Yes. Wouldn't you want the same as a black family?

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

Imagine some school in Nebraska putting “retvrn” (as close to Sankofa as it gets in spirit from the supremacist brigades) and “pride” at the bottom, and you’ll roughly get how everyone not black feels when they see the language. We get the message, whether they carefully counted out 14 words or not.

It is really disingenuous to equate Sankofa which is a Ghanaian word that basicaly means to reflect on the past with the goal of improving the future with white supremacist tropes like retvrn and the ok symbol.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

Imagine some school in Nebraska putting “retvrn” (as close to Sankofa as it gets in spirit from the supremacist brigades) and “pride” at the bottom, and you’ll roughly get how everyone not black feels when they see the language. We get the message, whether they carefully counted out 14 words or not.

It is really disingenuous to equate Sankofa which is a Ghanaian word that basicaly means to reflect on the past with the goal of improving the future with white supremacist tropes like retvrn and the ok symbol.

And Robert e Lee just loved Virginia

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.

The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.

How about taking this message instead:

White people are uncomfortable if their child is zoned for a school and that school makes it clear that their child is not welcome.

The future is multicultural. Just because DC has been "Chocolate City" in the past doesn't mean that's its future. Is there some tension around this? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.

Is it also understandable that white parents who pay taxes and have committed to this city want their child to be explicitly welcomed through words and actions into the school they are zoned for? Yes. Wouldn't you want the same as a black family?

The school's stated mission is to educate every student. I see the school as celebrating its history and you see it as "making it clear your child is not welcome." My other point is that in my opinion it doesn't matter if the school changed the website today to a more inclusive message, it would not lead to increased white enrollment because the students at the school are overwhelmingly black.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.

The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.

This is an intentional misreading of what people are saying. And counterproductive -- since people DON'T actually feel that way then acting like they do only further divides people.

For instance a good number of people who have these concerns don't even have white kids. They just don't have black kids. This thread chose to focus on the white kids at these schools but you could look at AAPI students and the numbers would be even more stark in many cases. It is hard to be the only person of a specific race or ethnicity in a community that is very homogenous. If the community is inherently diverse then being an only isn't as hard -- being the lone AAPI student at a school that is say 50% black and 20% white and 20% hispanic and 10% mixed wouldn't be as difficult. Being the lone AAPI kid at a school that is 95% black is harder because there will be less effort to be inclusive since there is less demand for inclusivity.

I see this at our DCPS elementary. It has historically been over 90% black but in the last 10 years it's hispanic population has grown a lot -- now about 25% hispanic. There are also more AAPI and white kids though those numbers are lower. But it's going from being an extremely homogenous school that was very much a "black school" in many explicit ways to being a much more diverse school. Well there have been growing pains in that. For instance the school has long had a big and very celebratory mlk day celebration. That won't change. But for the first time last year they also did a similar celebration for hispanic heritage month and it was frankly overdue. But it took time for the powers that be at the school to recognize the need for that kind of balance because the idea of it being a "black school" was very engrained in not just the families but also the teachers and administration. And the cool think about that shift is that it's actually sort of loosened some things up and made people think more broadly. Kids at the school have done an "Africa studies" unit during black history month for a long time but for the first time last year they broadened this to be a global studies unit where kids could pick from any country or culture to do a project on. I mean this sounds like a no brainer but for the first 4 years we were at the school our biracial but not black kids dutifully studied African countries in this unit and were never given the option of studying one of the countries from which they have actual heritage. So this was a big shift.

It is really not about centering whiteness. You aren't going to find a bunch of white supermacists in DCPS -- they would not survive. But you do have more desire to see broader diversity in the schools and more inclusiveness. Not to erase the history of these schools as black schools that have educated black students for decades but also to embrace new era where DC is a less segregated city and where there is real desire for multiculturalism among its residents. I guess I'm biased but I really do think that's worth celebrating.

Again you are mad that DUNBAR which is like 100% black has black iconography?

Gtfo you are ridiculous. Stop looking for external sources to focus your anxiety about your children’s education on.

If it were in a 99% black catchment area, fine. But it's a public school in a diverse neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

Imagine some school in Nebraska putting “retvrn” (as close to Sankofa as it gets in spirit from the supremacist brigades) and “pride” at the bottom, and you’ll roughly get how everyone not black feels when they see the language. We get the message, whether they carefully counted out 14 words or not.

It is really disingenuous to equate Sankofa which is a Ghanaian word that basicaly means to reflect on the past with the goal of improving the future with white supremacist tropes like retvrn and the ok symbol.

And Robert e Lee just loved Virginia

Most reasonable people would not equate these concepts. If that is how you see it then you are a lost cause.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.

The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.

How about taking this message instead:

White people are uncomfortable if their child is zoned for a school and that school makes it clear that their child is not welcome.

The future is multicultural. Just because DC has been "Chocolate City" in the past doesn't mean that's its future. Is there some tension around this? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.

Is it also understandable that white parents who pay taxes and have committed to this city want their child to be explicitly welcomed through words and actions into the school they are zoned for? Yes. Wouldn't you want the same as a black family?

The school's stated mission is to educate every student. I see the school as celebrating its history and you see it as "making it clear your child is not welcome." My other point is that in my opinion it doesn't matter if the school changed the website today to a more inclusive message, it would not lead to increased white enrollment because the students at the school are overwhelmingly black.

That’s funny, I don’t see a commitment to education explicitly stated anywhere outside of “lifelong learning,” and if look at revealed preference in terms of graduation rate and test scores, those look terrible as well. As for the “everyone” piece, it’s not troubling that the neighborhood public school population looks nothing like the neighborhood?

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

Imagine some school in Nebraska putting “retvrn” (as close to Sankofa as it gets in spirit from the supremacist brigades) and “pride” at the bottom, and you’ll roughly get how everyone not black feels when they see the language. We get the message, whether they carefully counted out 14 words or not.

It is really disingenuous to equate Sankofa which is a Ghanaian word that basicaly means to reflect on the past with the goal of improving the future with white supremacist tropes like retvrn and the ok symbol.

And Robert e Lee just loved Virginia

Most reasonable people would not equate these concepts. If that is how you see it then you are a lost cause.

There are multiple people posting up and down here about how we equate white and black supremacism, and know it when we see it. Black power in dc is, generally speaking, pretty supremacist in language and action, and just generally antagonistic to anyone who doesn’t look the part. There are good historical reasons for that, but you can’t blame people for reading the signal to stay away loud and clear, and then staying away.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.

The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.

How about taking this message instead:

White people are uncomfortable if their child is zoned for a school and that school makes it clear that their child is not welcome.

The future is multicultural. Just because DC has been "Chocolate City" in the past doesn't mean that's its future. Is there some tension around this? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.

Is it also understandable that white parents who pay taxes and have committed to this city want their child to be explicitly welcomed through words and actions into the school they are zoned for? Yes. Wouldn't you want the same as a black family?

The school's stated mission is to educate every student. I see the school as celebrating its history and you see it as "making it clear your child is not welcome." My other point is that in my opinion it doesn't matter if the school changed the website today to a more inclusive message, it would not lead to increased white enrollment because the students at the school are overwhelmingly black.

That’s funny, I don’t see a commitment to education explicitly stated anywhere outside of “lifelong learning,” and if look at revealed preference in terms of graduation rate and test scores, those look terrible as well. As for the “everyone” piece, it’s not troubling that the neighborhood public school population looks nothing like the neighborhood?

If non black people want the school to reflect the neighborhood, they should send their children there.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.

The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.

How about taking this message instead:

White people are uncomfortable if their child is zoned for a school and that school makes it clear that their child is not welcome.

The future is multicultural. Just because DC has been "Chocolate City" in the past doesn't mean that's its future. Is there some tension around this? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.

Is it also understandable that white parents who pay taxes and have committed to this city want their child to be explicitly welcomed through words and actions into the school they are zoned for? Yes. Wouldn't you want the same as a black family?

The school's stated mission is to educate every student. I see the school as celebrating its history and you see it as "making it clear your child is not welcome." My other point is that in my opinion it doesn't matter if the school changed the website today to a more inclusive message, it would not lead to increased white enrollment because the students at the school are overwhelmingly black.

A school becoming more diverse is a gradual process in DC. First there's one kid then five then 25. Why not try and attract more in-boundary students? White parents send their kids to schools when they are the minority all the time. This is happening more and more at the high school level. Why not at least signal that white students are welcome, especially since the boundary only recently changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.

The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.

How about taking this message instead:

White people are uncomfortable if their child is zoned for a school and that school makes it clear that their child is not welcome.

The future is multicultural. Just because DC has been "Chocolate City" in the past doesn't mean that's its future. Is there some tension around this? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.

Is it also understandable that white parents who pay taxes and have committed to this city want their child to be explicitly welcomed through words and actions into the school they are zoned for? Yes. Wouldn't you want the same as a black family?

The school's stated mission is to educate every student. I see the school as celebrating its history and you see it as "making it clear your child is not welcome." My other point is that in my opinion it doesn't matter if the school changed the website today to a more inclusive message, it would not lead to increased white enrollment because the students at the school are overwhelmingly black.

That’s funny, I don’t see a commitment to education explicitly stated anywhere outside of “lifelong learning,” and if look at revealed preference in terms of graduation rate and test scores, those look terrible as well. As for the “everyone” piece, it’s not troubling that the neighborhood public school population looks nothing like the neighborhood?

If non black people want the school to reflect the neighborhood, they should send their children there.

Absolutely. But meet us half way.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

Imagine some school in Nebraska putting “retvrn” (as close to Sankofa as it gets in spirit from the supremacist brigades) and “pride” at the bottom, and you’ll roughly get how everyone not black feels when they see the language. We get the message, whether they carefully counted out 14 words or not.

oh just stop. you were never going to send your kid to Dunbar so myob and focus on your own child.

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.

The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.

How about taking this message instead:

White people are uncomfortable if their child is zoned for a school and that school makes it clear that their child is not welcome.

The future is multicultural. Just because DC has been "Chocolate City" in the past doesn't mean that's its future. Is there some tension around this? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.

Is it also understandable that white parents who pay taxes and have committed to this city want their child to be explicitly welcomed through words and actions into the school they are zoned for? Yes. Wouldn't you want the same as a black family?

You are absolutely absurd. But please yes, cry more about how but for the image of Sankofa you’d send your kid to Dunbar 🤡

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.

No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.

Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.

I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.

np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.

You know that isn't all it says.

Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"

https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"

All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?

So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.

The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.

How about taking this message instead:

White people are uncomfortable if their child is zoned for a school and that school makes it clear that their child is not welcome.

The future is multicultural. Just because DC has been "Chocolate City" in the past doesn't mean that's its future. Is there some tension around this? Yes. Is it understandable? Yes.

Is it also understandable that white parents who pay taxes and have committed to this city want their child to be explicitly welcomed through words and actions into the school they are zoned for? Yes. Wouldn't you want the same as a black family?

The school's stated mission is to educate every student. I see the school as celebrating its history and you see it as "making it clear your child is not welcome." My other point is that in my opinion it doesn't matter if the school changed the website today to a more inclusive message, it would not lead to increased white enrollment because the students at the school are overwhelmingly black.

That’s funny, I don’t see a commitment to education explicitly stated anywhere outside of “lifelong learning,” and if look at revealed preference in terms of graduation rate and test scores, those look terrible as well. As for the “everyone” piece, it’s not troubling that the neighborhood public school population looks nothing like the neighborhood?

If non black people want the school to reflect the neighborhood, they should send their children there.

Also, by the way, the school (as of 2023) had 3 white students, 3 asian students, and 101 hispanic students, so it's not all white.