Stats on how many white kids at each high school

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"


All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"


All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?


So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.
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Well, they stole their nickname from the University of Alabama, which is only 11% black.
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


The logo reads "the Nation's first high school established for African Americans"


So they're not allowed to highlight the school's history? You are reaching here.


Of course they should highlight the school's history but when my kid read the logo they felt like it was still that way and that as a mixed race non-AA kid they would be like a man trying to go to a women's college, invading a sort of "safe space." Even if it was originally founded because there was no other option. It's not clear if it's now open to all.


Sure, it's the logo that made your kid feel that way. The school has 3 white students, and the website features almost exclusively black students. Just admit that it's the number of black people that makes you uncomfortable.
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


The logo reads "the Nation's first high school established for African Americans"


So they're not allowed to highlight the school's history? You are reaching here.


Of course they should highlight the school's history but when my kid read the logo they felt like it was still that way and that as a mixed race non-AA kid they would be like a man trying to go to a women's college, invading a sort of "safe space." Even if it was originally founded because there was no other option. It's not clear if it's now open to all.


Sure, it's the logo that made your kid feel that way. The school has 3 white students, and the website features almost exclusively black students. Just admit that it's the number of black people that makes you uncomfortable.


Oh please. Can you imagine a school using icons of those whacko white supremecists hand signals that Trump supporters do in photographs, and people defending it by saying, "but it's just an 'ok' sign"?

-- dp
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"


All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?


So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.


The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


The logo reads "the Nation's first high school established for African Americans"


So they're not allowed to highlight the school's history? You are reaching here.


Of course they should highlight the school's history but when my kid read the logo they felt like it was still that way and that as a mixed race non-AA kid they would be like a man trying to go to a women's college, invading a sort of "safe space." Even if it was originally founded because there was no other option. It's not clear if it's now open to all.


Sure, it's the logo that made your kid feel that way. The school has 3 white students, and the website features almost exclusively black students. Just admit that it's the number of black people that makes you uncomfortable.


Oh please. Can you imagine a school using icons of those whacko white supremecists hand signals that Trump supporters do in photographs, and people defending it by saying, "but it's just an 'ok' sign"?

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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"


All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?


So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.


The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.


No one should be "centered" in a public school.
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"


All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?


So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.


The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.


No one should be "centered" in a public school.


I agree. My point is that it doesn't matter how inclusive the website appears. 99% of white people will not send their children to 99% black school. Just admit it, it's okay.
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Are we really here being mad that Dunbar is themed to Afrofuturism? Lol.
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"


All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?


So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.


The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.


This is an intentional misreading of what people are saying. And counterproductive -- since people DON'T actually feel that way then acting like they do only further divides people.

For instance a good number of people who have these concerns don't even have white kids. They just don't have black kids. This thread chose to focus on the white kids at these schools but you could look at AAPI students and the numbers would be even more stark in many cases. It is hard to be the only person of a specific race or ethnicity in a community that is very homogenous. If the community is inherently diverse then being an only isn't as hard -- being the lone AAPI student at a school that is say 50% black and 20% white and 20% hispanic and 10% mixed wouldn't be as difficult. Being the lone AAPI kid at a school that is 95% black is harder because there will be less effort to be inclusive since there is less demand for inclusivity.

I see this at our DCPS elementary. It has historically been over 90% black but in the last 10 years it's hispanic population has grown a lot -- now about 25% hispanic. There are also more AAPI and white kids though those numbers are lower. But it's going from being an extremely homogenous school that was very much a "black school" in many explicit ways to being a much more diverse school. Well there have been growing pains in that. For instance the school has long had a big and very celebratory mlk day celebration. That won't change. But for the first time last year they also did a similar celebration for hispanic heritage month and it was frankly overdue. But it took time for the powers that be at the school to recognize the need for that kind of balance because the idea of it being a "black school" was very engrained in not just the families but also the teachers and administration. And the cool think about that shift is that it's actually sort of loosened some things up and made people think more broadly. Kids at the school have done an "Africa studies" unit during black history month for a long time but for the first time last year they broadened this to be a global studies unit where kids could pick from any country or culture to do a project on. I mean this sounds like a no brainer but for the first 4 years we were at the school our biracial but not black kids dutifully studied African countries in this unit and were never given the option of studying one of the countries from which they have actual heritage. So this was a big shift.

It is really not about centering whiteness. You aren't going to find a bunch of white supermacists in DCPS -- they would not survive. But you do have more desire to see broader diversity in the schools and more inclusiveness. Not to erase the history of these schools as black schools that have educated black students for decades but also to embrace new era where DC is a less segregated city and where there is real desire for multiculturalism among its residents. I guess I'm biased but I really do think that's worth celebrating.
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"


All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?


So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.


The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.


This is an intentional misreading of what people are saying. And counterproductive -- since people DON'T actually feel that way then acting like they do only further divides people.

For instance a good number of people who have these concerns don't even have white kids. They just don't have black kids. This thread chose to focus on the white kids at these schools but you could look at AAPI students and the numbers would be even more stark in many cases. It is hard to be the only person of a specific race or ethnicity in a community that is very homogenous. If the community is inherently diverse then being an only isn't as hard -- being the lone AAPI student at a school that is say 50% black and 20% white and 20% hispanic and 10% mixed wouldn't be as difficult. Being the lone AAPI kid at a school that is 95% black is harder because there will be less effort to be inclusive since there is less demand for inclusivity.

I see this at our DCPS elementary. It has historically been over 90% black but in the last 10 years it's hispanic population has grown a lot -- now about 25% hispanic. There are also more AAPI and white kids though those numbers are lower. But it's going from being an extremely homogenous school that was very much a "black school" in many explicit ways to being a much more diverse school. Well there have been growing pains in that. For instance the school has long had a big and very celebratory mlk day celebration. That won't change. But for the first time last year they also did a similar celebration for hispanic heritage month and it was frankly overdue. But it took time for the powers that be at the school to recognize the need for that kind of balance because the idea of it being a "black school" was very engrained in not just the families but also the teachers and administration. And the cool think about that shift is that it's actually sort of loosened some things up and made people think more broadly. Kids at the school have done an "Africa studies" unit during black history month for a long time but for the first time last year they broadened this to be a global studies unit where kids could pick from any country or culture to do a project on. I mean this sounds like a no brainer but for the first 4 years we were at the school our biracial but not black kids dutifully studied African countries in this unit and were never given the option of studying one of the countries from which they have actual heritage. So this was a big shift.

It is really not about centering whiteness. You aren't going to find a bunch of white supermacists in DCPS -- they would not survive. But you do have more desire to see broader diversity in the schools and more inclusiveness. Not to erase the history of these schools as black schools that have educated black students for decades but also to embrace new era where DC is a less segregated city and where there is real desire for multiculturalism among its residents. I guess I'm biased but I really do think that's worth celebrating.


Again you are mad that DUNBAR which is like 100% black has black iconography?

Gtfo you are ridiculous. Stop looking for external sources to focus your anxiety about your children’s education on.
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.

Much like it isn't a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public elementary to exclude most 3 year-olds living within 3 blocks because their native language isn't Spanish (Bruce Monroe at Park View).
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"


All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?


So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.


The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.


This is an intentional misreading of what people are saying. And counterproductive -- since people DON'T actually feel that way then acting like they do only further divides people.

For instance a good number of people who have these concerns don't even have white kids. They just don't have black kids. This thread chose to focus on the white kids at these schools but you could look at AAPI students and the numbers would be even more stark in many cases. It is hard to be the only person of a specific race or ethnicity in a community that is very homogenous. If the community is inherently diverse then being an only isn't as hard -- being the lone AAPI student at a school that is say 50% black and 20% white and 20% hispanic and 10% mixed wouldn't be as difficult. Being the lone AAPI kid at a school that is 95% black is harder because there will be less effort to be inclusive since there is less demand for inclusivity.

I see this at our DCPS elementary. It has historically been over 90% black but in the last 10 years it's hispanic population has grown a lot -- now about 25% hispanic. There are also more AAPI and white kids though those numbers are lower. But it's going from being an extremely homogenous school that was very much a "black school" in many explicit ways to being a much more diverse school. Well there have been growing pains in that. For instance the school has long had a big and very celebratory mlk day celebration. That won't change. But for the first time last year they also did a similar celebration for hispanic heritage month and it was frankly overdue. But it took time for the powers that be at the school to recognize the need for that kind of balance because the idea of it being a "black school" was very engrained in not just the families but also the teachers and administration. And the cool think about that shift is that it's actually sort of loosened some things up and made people think more broadly. Kids at the school have done an "Africa studies" unit during black history month for a long time but for the first time last year they broadened this to be a global studies unit where kids could pick from any country or culture to do a project on. I mean this sounds like a no brainer but for the first 4 years we were at the school our biracial but not black kids dutifully studied African countries in this unit and were never given the option of studying one of the countries from which they have actual heritage. So this was a big shift.

It is really not about centering whiteness. You aren't going to find a bunch of white supermacists in DCPS -- they would not survive. But you do have more desire to see broader diversity in the schools and more inclusiveness. Not to erase the history of these schools as black schools that have educated black students for decades but also to embrace new era where DC is a less segregated city and where there is real desire for multiculturalism among its residents. I guess I'm biased but I really do think that's worth celebrating.


Again you are mad that DUNBAR which is like 100% black has black iconography?

Gtfo you are ridiculous. Stop looking for external sources to focus your anxiety about your children’s education on.

Dunbar is the one public high school for most of ward 5, and is openly and aggressively signalling it’s only there for a minority of the people who are in bounds. That should bother people, even if it were a great school (and it’s terrible).
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Anonymous wrote:Hundreds of millions of DC tax dollars supporting “Afrofuturism.”

Nice.


No, as noted above, that program is grant funded, not taxpayer funded. And also it's a lot less than "hundreds of millions" (it's 25 million spread over 6 schools including schools with programs that sound a lot less ridiculous than the Dunbar one).

Though insofar as programs like this paper over real issues at these schools that need actual solutions, it does undermine the benefit of actual DCPS spending. Because Dunbar embracing a program like this just further alienates IB families who want high academic standards and more academic opportunity, pushing them to look elsewhere than their by right school.


Np on this issue, but Dunbar is our inbounds high school. I looked at the website and as a non-African American, I legitimately can't tell if this school is open to my family: https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/

It very much looks like segregation is the aim.


I don't get that from the website (that segregation is the aim). They are (rightfully, IMO) celebrating a time of excellence for that school, when they sent graduates to the Ivy League during segregation. It really was a good school amidst an overtly racist school situation. Hard to talk about that past without including all the information.

I don't see it as them trying to recreate it... They just want current students to be reminded of that excellence.



np: I don't think you looked at the Mission and Vision page. Dunbar absolutely should be proud of its past, but its values explicitly emphasize Black pride, while there is no mention of their vision for a multicultural future.

It's not a reasonable application of taxpayer money for a neighborhood public school in a diverse boundary to identify itself as a jr. HBCU.


The website states: Our mission is to ensure that every student reaches their full potential through rigorous and joyful learning experiences provided in a nurturing environment.


You know that isn't all it says.


Maybe I missed it but where is the section that states its "values explicitly emphasize Black pride?"


https://www.dunbarhsdc.org/about_us/mission_and_vision

"Our Values

Sankofa
Community
Lifelong Learning
Activism
Pride [with black upraised fist icon]
"


All of the icons are black. If they were all white would that make you feel better?


So maybe it's meant to invoke anarchism? general resistance? trade union power?

And what of Sankofa?

You are being obtuse. You can split hairs on technicalities, but the message is still loud and clear.


The message I am getting from people on this board is that white people are uncomfortable if whiteness is not centered.


This is an intentional misreading of what people are saying. And counterproductive -- since people DON'T actually feel that way then acting like they do only further divides people.

For instance a good number of people who have these concerns don't even have white kids. They just don't have black kids. This thread chose to focus on the white kids at these schools but you could look at AAPI students and the numbers would be even more stark in many cases. It is hard to be the only person of a specific race or ethnicity in a community that is very homogenous. If the community is inherently diverse then being an only isn't as hard -- being the lone AAPI student at a school that is say 50% black and 20% white and 20% hispanic and 10% mixed wouldn't be as difficult. Being the lone AAPI kid at a school that is 95% black is harder because there will be less effort to be inclusive since there is less demand for inclusivity.

I see this at our DCPS elementary. It has historically been over 90% black but in the last 10 years it's hispanic population has grown a lot -- now about 25% hispanic. There are also more AAPI and white kids though those numbers are lower. But it's going from being an extremely homogenous school that was very much a "black school" in many explicit ways to being a much more diverse school. Well there have been growing pains in that. For instance the school has long had a big and very celebratory mlk day celebration. That won't change. But for the first time last year they also did a similar celebration for hispanic heritage month and it was frankly overdue. But it took time for the powers that be at the school to recognize the need for that kind of balance because the idea of it being a "black school" was very engrained in not just the families but also the teachers and administration. And the cool think about that shift is that it's actually sort of loosened some things up and made people think more broadly. Kids at the school have done an "Africa studies" unit during black history month for a long time but for the first time last year they broadened this to be a global studies unit where kids could pick from any country or culture to do a project on. I mean this sounds like a no brainer but for the first 4 years we were at the school our biracial but not black kids dutifully studied African countries in this unit and were never given the option of studying one of the countries from which they have actual heritage. So this was a big shift.

It is really not about centering whiteness. You aren't going to find a bunch of white supermacists in DCPS -- they would not survive. But you do have more desire to see broader diversity in the schools and more inclusiveness. Not to erase the history of these schools as black schools that have educated black students for decades but also to embrace new era where DC is a less segregated city and where there is real desire for multiculturalism among its residents. I guess I'm biased but I really do think that's worth celebrating.


Again you are mad that DUNBAR which is like 100% black has black iconography?

Gtfo you are ridiculous. Stop looking for external sources to focus your anxiety about your children’s education on.


I was not talking about Dunbar specifically. But I see you are very inclusivity minded.
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