Time off request rejected

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Team call in sick day before, day of, day after. Oops covid and a nasty gi thing. Bedridden the whole time.

This place deserves zero respect. And they won't fire you because they'd never find another person to walk all over like this.

This. Their two week rule is ridiculous. How do they handle it if you have a home emergency like a pipe leak and have to stay home to meet the plumber? Sorry, go without water for two weeks until you can take a day off?

Start looking for a new job. I've never worked anywhere with these kind of rules.

That’s what the wife does.

LOL these archaic industries seem to think so!

Time-off rejections are incredibly common in retail and healthcare. They are awful for workers. I was looking at the Antiwork Reddit and one person was denied their wedding day off, months in advance.

My 80yo MIL works at a department store solely to keep herself busy (doesn't need the money, doesn't get insurance or anything else out of it). They have a store-wide policy that no one can request time off during the Christmas season, but she told them when she started that she flies to us for 3 weeks every December. Every year she submits the request, it gets rejected and she gets threatened with firing (or she threatens to quit), and come every January she still has a job, because she's a good employee otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Sounds very toxic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk to your boss. Then if they still say no, pull up the policy on how to appeal the rejection. If they still say no, let them know you are looking for another job.

They said no to the day off after I appealed. I ended up working. Then that day they only approved some of my vacation days, despite my saying I was going away. I have been looking for jobs since, but will not quit and they can let me go when I take sick days to cover the time they rejected ( I have enough) if they don’t like it…

How many vacation days did you ask for and how many did they give?

It must be so demoralizing to work for this employer. To the point that your productivity has probably decreased.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk to your boss. Then if they still say no, pull up the policy on how to appeal the rejection. If they still say no, let them know you are looking for another job.

They said no to the day off after I appealed. I ended up working. Then that day they only approved some of my vacation days, despite my saying I was going away. I have been looking for jobs since, but will not quit and they can let me go when I take sick days to cover the time they rejected ( I have enough) if they don’t like it…

How many vacation days did you ask for and how many did they give?

It must be so demoralizing to work for this employer. To the point that your productivity has probably decreased.

I asked for 6 and got 4. My productivity is fine, but I have felt distracted and depressed mentally. I am resentful of the fact I will have to lie about sick days while on vacation so I won’t be 100 percent relaxed as I really hate lying and dread it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Talk to your boss. Then if they still say no, pull up the policy on how to appeal the rejection. If they still say no, let them know you are looking for another job.

They said no to the day off after I appealed. I ended up working. Then that day they only approved some of my vacation days, despite my saying I was going away. I have been looking for jobs since, but will not quit and they can let me go when I take sick days to cover the time they rejected ( I have enough) if they don’t like it…

How many vacation days did you ask for and how many did they give?

It must be so demoralizing to work for this employer. To the point that your productivity has probably decreased.

I asked for 6 and got 4. My productivity is fine, but I have felt distracted and depressed mentally. I am resentful of the fact I will have to lie about sick days while on vacation so I won’t be 100 percent relaxed as I really hate lying and dread it.

What was their reason for denying 2 of the days?

[Anonymous]

Any update, OP? Are you leaving for vacation?

[Anonymous]

Hi OP. Did you quit this month?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP. Did you quit this month?

I ended up working during one day of my vacation, but local time and without sweating it too much. The days I was away several colleagues ended up rebelling over other shady HR practices (mostly HR pushing HR work on non-HR employees, unreasonable overtime requests, generally poor communication from HR...), so I went into it feeling validated for feeling how I felt, and things shifted and eased a bit. It has been better since as they hired two more FT HR people.

[Anonymous]

Talk to your manager. Apologize for the short notice (less than your two week rule, but not actually all that short). Tell him/her this is really important to your family and you'd appreciate the flexibility and consideration.

If they say no, ask why.

If the reason is lame, call in sick, update your resume and leave as soon as you can.

Time off is supposed to be a BENEFIT of working for your employer, but it's not much of a benefit if they won't let you take it. That's a bad sign of what they expect from people.

If you haven't actually talked to your manager and only submitted the request through an IT system, that's where you need to start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Talk to your manager. Apologize for the short notice (less than your two week rule, but not actually all that short). Tell him/her this is really important to your family and you'd appreciate the flexibility and consideration.

If they say no, ask why.

If the reason is lame, call in sick, update your resume and leave as soon as you can.

Time off is supposed to be a BENEFIT of working for your employer, but it's not much of a benefit if they won't let you take it. That's a bad sign of what they expect from people.

If you haven't actually talked to your manager and only submitted the request through an IT system, that's where you need to start.

I posted above. The ship has sailed! Of course I talked to my manager (who did reject the request, not IT) and then my manager's manager. The first response provided no detail, even when I asked. The second response was nonsensical: I was asking for over 40 hours of PTO for a week. I was not. I explained this. I was told no, this is over 40 hours (again, it wasn't), like some sort of surreal dialogue, hitting a wall. It made absolutely zero sense, it was time I had accrued too. I could have quit, kept arguing into a void, or sucked it up so I sucked it up. Honestly that was partly because this vacation was VERY important to me (seeing my mom post surgery, abroad) and there was no way I wanted drama in my head during the trip. But if you read above, it was also linked to a major HR issue

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi OP. Did you quit this month?

I ended up working during one day of my vacation, but local time and without sweating it too much. The days I was away several colleagues ended up rebelling over other shady HR practices (mostly HR pushing HR work on non-HR employees, unreasonable overtime requests, generally poor communication from HR...), so I went into it feeling validated for feeling how I felt, and things shifted and eased a bit. It has been better since as they hired two more FT HR people.

Thanks for the update! Are they good hires or introducing more problems?! I hope good! 👿👿👿

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hi OP. Did you quit this month?

I ended up working during one day of my vacation, but local time and without sweating it too much. The days I was away several colleagues ended up rebelling over other shady HR practices (mostly HR pushing HR work on non-HR employees, unreasonable overtime requests, generally poor communication from HR...), so I went into it feeling validated for feeling how I felt, and things shifted and eased a bit. It has been better since as they hired two more FT HR people.

Thanks for the update! Are they good hires or introducing more problems?! I hope good! 👿👿👿

They have been put in charge of some of the things HR used to push onto us, so I am actually not sure if they are doing it well...All I know is it's not my problem anymore, which is wonderful and gives me time to actually do my work without starting at 5 am or working into the evening!