Time off request rejected

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your manager directly and tell him/her that you need this day off. Ask for clarification of why it was rejected. Is there a big meeting going on that day? Something that you absolutely need to be there for?

My job isn't like that. We do not have meetings on Fridays and the only work is the same work we always do. We don't have any special deadlines coming up. Many other people do what I do and extra hours are given if someone takes off, which is why I thought it was best to give some notice so someone else could take my hours. So no, it's just about the petty "two week notice" aspect. Now I can see if I were a frequent flyer at this but it is literally the very first time I ask for a personal day.

If they’re going to be petty, you can be petty too. Just call out sick. Disrespectful people don’t deserve your respect.

I am going to do that I think. I absolutely hate lying, especially since my managers will know this is totally fake and I am not sick. But at the same time what do they expect me to do exactly after rejecting my request?

Why are you so resistant to having a conversation with your manager about the time off? You say they are second in line to HR, but as your manager it is their job to go to bat for you and send HR an email saying it was cleared by them. Seems like a big step to go straight to faking a sick day that they will know about. Ask them what is so important that they can't give you the day off, and see if there is a way to come to an agreement. If they blow you off, that's an answer in and of itself.

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Because I don't think they care. They manage huge teams of people and we don't know each other physically. There is nothing important or a good reason for not giving me a day off, so it's pretty clear where they stand. I don't want to make needless waves.

For crying out loud stop being a wet noodle and go talk to the one you are the closest too. Stop speculating and feeling sorry for yourself. Stop making excuses. If they are jerks to your face and have no good reason for denying your time off, then at least you had the discussion and know exactly where you stand.

Their reason was very clear: I did not ask soon enough. The decision was endorsed by all the managers in the email I received. So why would I go and beg for explanations or a change of mind? They made it pretty clear it was a no. We (not just me, all employees and managers) communicate only about work and the tone at work is extremely dry and business-like. I really have no reason to think based on past interaction that asking would help at all. My lesson was that honesty does not pay and I should have taken a sick day. The second part of the lesson is I need a new job.

You are so obtuse I wonder how you've made it this far in life.

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At this point I'm calling troll

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I asked for two weeks off to take a trip abroad and it was rejected because "no one gets two weeks at a time. You can have one week." Which (a) after 11 years at one workplace I think you could bend the rules and (b) it was false! People of foreign origins were routnely allowed up to three weeks to visit their home countries. One guy visited home after 6 months employment.
I quit on a Friday afternoon. Wednesday morning they told me I could have the two weeks and I already had a new job lined up.

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your manager directly and tell him/her that you need this day off. Ask for clarification of why it was rejected. Is there a big meeting going on that day? Something that you absolutely need to be there for?

My job isn't like that. We do not have meetings on Fridays and the only work is the same work we always do. We don't have any special deadlines coming up. Many other people do what I do and extra hours are given if someone takes off, which is why I thought it was best to give some notice so someone else could take my hours. So no, it's just about the petty "two week notice" aspect. Now I can see if I were a frequent flyer at this but it is literally the very first time I ask for a personal day.

If they’re going to be petty, you can be petty too. Just call out sick. Disrespectful people don’t deserve your respect.

I am going to do that I think. I absolutely hate lying, especially since my managers will know this is totally fake and I am not sick. But at the same time what do they expect me to do exactly after rejecting my request?

Why are you so resistant to having a conversation with your manager about the time off? You say they are second in line to HR, but as your manager it is their job to go to bat for you and send HR an email saying it was cleared by them. Seems like a big step to go straight to faking a sick day that they will know about. Ask them what is so important that they can't give you the day off, and see if there is a way to come to an agreement. If they blow you off, that's an answer in and of itself.

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Because I don't think they care. They manage huge teams of people and we don't know each other physically. There is nothing important or a good reason for not giving me a day off, so it's pretty clear where they stand. I don't want to make needless waves.

For crying out loud stop being a wet noodle and go talk to the one you are the closest too. Stop speculating and feeling sorry for yourself. Stop making excuses. If they are jerks to your face and have no good reason for denying your time off, then at least you had the discussion and know exactly where you stand.

Their reason was very clear: I did not ask soon enough. The decision was endorsed by all the managers in the email I received. So why would I go and beg for explanations or a change of mind? They made it pretty clear it was a no. We (not just me, all employees and managers) communicate only about work and the tone at work is extremely dry and business-like. I really have no reason to think based on past interaction that asking would help at all. My lesson was that honesty does not pay and I should have taken a sick day. The second part of the lesson is I need a new job.

You are so obtuse I wonder how you've made it this far in life.

I understand everything people said. I also know my workplace and how discussion with them is futile. I agree it would make sense at many workplaces.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point I'm calling troll

Nah. Op just seems to be someone who is meek and instead of at least trying to talk to them automatically decides it won't happen so why bother.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked for two weeks off to take a trip abroad and it was rejected because "no one gets two weeks at a time. You can have one week." Which (a) after 11 years at one workplace I think you could bend the rules and (b) it was false! People of foreign origins were routnely allowed up to three weeks to visit their home countries. One guy visited home after 6 months employment.
I quit on a Friday afternoon. Wednesday morning they told me I could have the two weeks and I already had a new job lined up.

So did you confront them prior to quitting? Or did you just quit and then they tried to get you back? Good for you either way!

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Anonymous wrote:I asked for two weeks off to take a trip abroad and it was rejected because "no one gets two weeks at a time. You can have one week." Which (a) after 11 years at one workplace I think you could bend the rules and (b) it was false! People of foreign origins were routnely allowed up to three weeks to visit their home countries. One guy visited home after 6 months employment.
I quit on a Friday afternoon. Wednesday morning they told me I could have the two weeks and I already had a new job lined up.

I like your style.
Putting your 2 weeks notice is a great tactic but you have to be willing to follow through with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your manager directly and tell him/her that you need this day off. Ask for clarification of why it was rejected. Is there a big meeting going on that day? Something that you absolutely need to be there for?

My job isn't like that. We do not have meetings on Fridays and the only work is the same work we always do. We don't have any special deadlines coming up. Many other people do what I do and extra hours are given if someone takes off, which is why I thought it was best to give some notice so someone else could take my hours. So no, it's just about the petty "two week notice" aspect. Now I can see if I were a frequent flyer at this but it is literally the very first time I ask for a personal day.

If they’re going to be petty, you can be petty too. Just call out sick. Disrespectful people don’t deserve your respect.

I am going to do that I think. I absolutely hate lying, especially since my managers will know this is totally fake and I am not sick. But at the same time what do they expect me to do exactly after rejecting my request?

Why are you so resistant to having a conversation with your manager about the time off? You say they are second in line to HR, but as your manager it is their job to go to bat for you and send HR an email saying it was cleared by them. Seems like a big step to go straight to faking a sick day that they will know about. Ask them what is so important that they can't give you the day off, and see if there is a way to come to an agreement. If they blow you off, that's an answer in and of itself.

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Because I don't think they care. They manage huge teams of people and we don't know each other physically. There is nothing important or a good reason for not giving me a day off, so it's pretty clear where they stand. I don't want to make needless waves.

For crying out loud stop being a wet noodle and go talk to the one you are the closest too. Stop speculating and feeling sorry for yourself. Stop making excuses. If they are jerks to your face and have no good reason for denying your time off, then at least you had the discussion and know exactly where you stand.

Their reason was very clear: I did not ask soon enough. The decision was endorsed by all the managers in the email I received. So why would I go and beg for explanations or a change of mind? They made it pretty clear it was a no. We (not just me, all employees and managers) communicate only about work and the tone at work is extremely dry and business-like. I really have no reason to think based on past interaction that asking would help at all. My lesson was that honesty does not pay and I should have taken a sick day. The second part of the lesson is I need a new job.

You are so obtuse I wonder how you've made it this far in life.

I understand everything people said. I also know my workplace and how discussion with them is futile. I agree it would make sense at many workplaces.

So what if it's futile. Rock the boat!

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your manager directly and tell him/her that you need this day off. Ask for clarification of why it was rejected. Is there a big meeting going on that day? Something that you absolutely need to be there for?

My job isn't like that. We do not have meetings on Fridays and the only work is the same work we always do. We don't have any special deadlines coming up. Many other people do what I do and extra hours are given if someone takes off, which is why I thought it was best to give some notice so someone else could take my hours. So no, it's just about the petty "two week notice" aspect. Now I can see if I were a frequent flyer at this but it is literally the very first time I ask for a personal day.

If they’re going to be petty, you can be petty too. Just call out sick. Disrespectful people don’t deserve your respect.

I am going to do that I think. I absolutely hate lying, especially since my managers will know this is totally fake and I am not sick. But at the same time what do they expect me to do exactly after rejecting my request?

Why are you so resistant to having a conversation with your manager about the time off? You say they are second in line to HR, but as your manager it is their job to go to bat for you and send HR an email saying it was cleared by them. Seems like a big step to go straight to faking a sick day that they will know about. Ask them what is so important that they can't give you the day off, and see if there is a way to come to an agreement. If they blow you off, that's an answer in and of itself.

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Because I don't think they care. They manage huge teams of people and we don't know each other physically. There is nothing important or a good reason for not giving me a day off, so it's pretty clear where they stand. I don't want to make needless waves.

For crying out loud stop being a wet noodle and go talk to the one you are the closest too. Stop speculating and feeling sorry for yourself. Stop making excuses. If they are jerks to your face and have no good reason for denying your time off, then at least you had the discussion and know exactly where you stand.

Their reason was very clear: I did not ask soon enough. The decision was endorsed by all the managers in the email I received. So why would I go and beg for explanations or a change of mind? They made it pretty clear it was a no. We (not just me, all employees and managers) communicate only about work and the tone at work is extremely dry and business-like. I really have no reason to think based on past interaction that asking would help at all. My lesson was that honesty does not pay and I should have taken a sick day. The second part of the lesson is I need a new job.

Right. There is a 14 day rule. You didn't comply with it. End of story. They aren't being ________ (fill in your whines). They are being efficient. You are the one who asked to break the rule. That is all that is going on here. Next time, ask 14 days in advance. Problem solved

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Anonymous wrote:Take the sick day and update your resume.

This. If they can’t give you a reason, call in sick.

She said the reason is that she gave less than 2 weeks notice.

OP, instead of fuming, push back on the HR denial of request.

DP, I mean that is going to make an even bigger situation if they deny and she calls out sick. I'd probably leave it alone and email that you are sick. Then look for another job. But, manage your emotions around this, OP. You need the job for not only insurance but college tuition. Age discrimination is real. They are how they are but you do not have to be so spun up. Be glad to have it for now and look for something else better.

I'm sorry. I hope your child enjoys the tour.

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your manager directly and tell him/her that you need this day off. Ask for clarification of why it was rejected. Is there a big meeting going on that day? Something that you absolutely need to be there for?

My job isn't like that. We do not have meetings on Fridays and the only work is the same work we always do. We don't have any special deadlines coming up. Many other people do what I do and extra hours are given if someone takes off, which is why I thought it was best to give some notice so someone else could take my hours. So no, it's just about the petty "two week notice" aspect. Now I can see if I were a frequent flyer at this but it is literally the very first time I ask for a personal day.

If they’re going to be petty, you can be petty too. Just call out sick. Disrespectful people don’t deserve your respect.

I am going to do that I think. I absolutely hate lying, especially since my managers will know this is totally fake and I am not sick. But at the same time what do they expect me to do exactly after rejecting my request?

Why are you so resistant to having a conversation with your manager about the time off? You say they are second in line to HR, but as your manager it is their job to go to bat for you and send HR an email saying it was cleared by them. Seems like a big step to go straight to faking a sick day that they will know about. Ask them what is so important that they can't give you the day off, and see if there is a way to come to an agreement. If they blow you off, that's an answer in and of itself.

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Because I don't think they care. They manage huge teams of people and we don't know each other physically. There is nothing important or a good reason for not giving me a day off, so it's pretty clear where they stand. I don't want to make needless waves.

For crying out loud stop being a wet noodle and go talk to the one you are the closest too. Stop speculating and feeling sorry for yourself. Stop making excuses. If they are jerks to your face and have no good reason for denying your time off, then at least you had the discussion and know exactly where you stand.

Their reason was very clear: I did not ask soon enough. The decision was endorsed by all the managers in the email I received. So why would I go and beg for explanations or a change of mind? They made it pretty clear it was a no. We (not just me, all employees and managers) communicate only about work and the tone at work is extremely dry and business-like. I really have no reason to think based on past interaction that asking would help at all. My lesson was that honesty does not pay and I should have taken a sick day. The second part of the lesson is I need a new job.

Right. There is a 14 day rule. You didn't comply with it. End of story. They aren't being ________ (fill in your whines). They are being efficient. You are the one who asked to break the rule. That is all that is going on here. Next time, ask 14 days in advance. Problem solved

The tour spot just became available, did you net read the OP?

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your manager directly and tell him/her that you need this day off. Ask for clarification of why it was rejected. Is there a big meeting going on that day? Something that you absolutely need to be there for?

My job isn't like that. We do not have meetings on Fridays and the only work is the same work we always do. We don't have any special deadlines coming up. Many other people do what I do and extra hours are given if someone takes off, which is why I thought it was best to give some notice so someone else could take my hours. So no, it's just about the petty "two week notice" aspect. Now I can see if I were a frequent flyer at this but it is literally the very first time I ask for a personal day.

If they’re going to be petty, you can be petty too. Just call out sick. Disrespectful people don’t deserve your respect.

I am going to do that I think. I absolutely hate lying, especially since my managers will know this is totally fake and I am not sick. But at the same time what do they expect me to do exactly after rejecting my request?

Why are you so resistant to having a conversation with your manager about the time off? You say they are second in line to HR, but as your manager it is their job to go to bat for you and send HR an email saying it was cleared by them. Seems like a big step to go straight to faking a sick day that they will know about. Ask them what is so important that they can't give you the day off, and see if there is a way to come to an agreement. If they blow you off, that's an answer in and of itself.

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Because I don't think they care. They manage huge teams of people and we don't know each other physically. There is nothing important or a good reason for not giving me a day off, so it's pretty clear where they stand. I don't want to make needless waves.

For crying out loud stop being a wet noodle and go talk to the one you are the closest too. Stop speculating and feeling sorry for yourself. Stop making excuses. If they are jerks to your face and have no good reason for denying your time off, then at least you had the discussion and know exactly where you stand.

Their reason was very clear: I did not ask soon enough. The decision was endorsed by all the managers in the email I received. So why would I go and beg for explanations or a change of mind? They made it pretty clear it was a no. We (not just me, all employees and managers) communicate only about work and the tone at work is extremely dry and business-like. I really have no reason to think based on past interaction that asking would help at all. My lesson was that honesty does not pay and I should have taken a sick day. The second part of the lesson is I need a new job.

Right. There is a 14 day rule. You didn't comply with it. End of story. They aren't being ________ (fill in your whines). They are being efficient. You are the one who asked to break the rule. That is all that is going on here. Next time, ask 14 days in advance. Problem solved

They are not complying with their own rules either as they still have not approved a vacation request I put in weeks ago and they are supposed to do it within 7 days. So sure, they are "efficient"...when it suits them.

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your manager directly and tell him/her that you need this day off. Ask for clarification of why it was rejected. Is there a big meeting going on that day? Something that you absolutely need to be there for?

My job isn't like that. We do not have meetings on Fridays and the only work is the same work we always do. We don't have any special deadlines coming up. Many other people do what I do and extra hours are given if someone takes off, which is why I thought it was best to give some notice so someone else could take my hours. So no, it's just about the petty "two week notice" aspect. Now I can see if I were a frequent flyer at this but it is literally the very first time I ask for a personal day.

If they’re going to be petty, you can be petty too. Just call out sick. Disrespectful people don’t deserve your respect.

I am going to do that I think. I absolutely hate lying, especially since my managers will know this is totally fake and I am not sick. But at the same time what do they expect me to do exactly after rejecting my request?

Why are you so resistant to having a conversation with your manager about the time off? You say they are second in line to HR, but as your manager it is their job to go to bat for you and send HR an email saying it was cleared by them. Seems like a big step to go straight to faking a sick day that they will know about. Ask them what is so important that they can't give you the day off, and see if there is a way to come to an agreement. If they blow you off, that's an answer in and of itself.

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Because I don't think they care. They manage huge teams of people and we don't know each other physically. There is nothing important or a good reason for not giving me a day off, so it's pretty clear where they stand. I don't want to make needless waves.

For crying out loud stop being a wet noodle and go talk to the one you are the closest too. Stop speculating and feeling sorry for yourself. Stop making excuses. If they are jerks to your face and have no good reason for denying your time off, then at least you had the discussion and know exactly where you stand.

Their reason was very clear: I did not ask soon enough. The decision was endorsed by all the managers in the email I received. So why would I go and beg for explanations or a change of mind? They made it pretty clear it was a no. We (not just me, all employees and managers) communicate only about work and the tone at work is extremely dry and business-like. I really have no reason to think based on past interaction that asking would help at all. My lesson was that honesty does not pay and I should have taken a sick day. The second part of the lesson is I need a new job.

Right. There is a 14 day rule. You didn't comply with it. End of story. They aren't being ________ (fill in your whines). They are being efficient. You are the one who asked to break the rule. That is all that is going on here. Next time, ask 14 days in advance. Problem solved

They are not complying with their own rules either as they still have not approved a vacation request I put in weeks ago and they are supposed to do it within 7 days. So sure, they are "efficient"...when it suits them.

Then why don't you notify them of this?

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Anonymous wrote:Talk to your manager directly and tell him/her that you need this day off. Ask for clarification of why it was rejected. Is there a big meeting going on that day? Something that you absolutely need to be there for?

My job isn't like that. We do not have meetings on Fridays and the only work is the same work we always do. We don't have any special deadlines coming up. Many other people do what I do and extra hours are given if someone takes off, which is why I thought it was best to give some notice so someone else could take my hours. So no, it's just about the petty "two week notice" aspect. Now I can see if I were a frequent flyer at this but it is literally the very first time I ask for a personal day.

If they’re going to be petty, you can be petty too. Just call out sick. Disrespectful people don’t deserve your respect.

I am going to do that I think. I absolutely hate lying, especially since my managers will know this is totally fake and I am not sick. But at the same time what do they expect me to do exactly after rejecting my request?

Why are you so resistant to having a conversation with your manager about the time off? You say they are second in line to HR, but as your manager it is their job to go to bat for you and send HR an email saying it was cleared by them. Seems like a big step to go straight to faking a sick day that they will know about. Ask them what is so important that they can't give you the day off, and see if there is a way to come to an agreement. If they blow you off, that's an answer in and of itself.

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Because I don't think they care. They manage huge teams of people and we don't know each other physically. There is nothing important or a good reason for not giving me a day off, so it's pretty clear where they stand. I don't want to make needless waves.

For crying out loud stop being a wet noodle and go talk to the one you are the closest too. Stop speculating and feeling sorry for yourself. Stop making excuses. If they are jerks to your face and have no good reason for denying your time off, then at least you had the discussion and know exactly where you stand.

Their reason was very clear: I did not ask soon enough. The decision was endorsed by all the managers in the email I received. So why would I go and beg for explanations or a change of mind? They made it pretty clear it was a no. We (not just me, all employees and managers) communicate only about work and the tone at work is extremely dry and business-like. I really have no reason to think based on past interaction that asking would help at all. My lesson was that honesty does not pay and I should have taken a sick day. The second part of the lesson is I need a new job.

Right. There is a 14 day rule. You didn't comply with it. End of story. They aren't being ________ (fill in your whines). They are being efficient. You are the one who asked to break the rule. That is all that is going on here. Next time, ask 14 days in advance. Problem solved

They are not complying with their own rules either as they still have not approved a vacation request I put in weeks ago and they are supposed to do it within 7 days. So sure, they are "efficient"...when it suits them.

Then why don't you notify them of this?

I already have.

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Anonymous wrote:At this point I'm calling troll

DP - some workplaces are like this. OP is venting. Why do you think you know her workplace better?

OP, email that you are sick and safe travels to the tour. No good deed goes unpunished sometimes.