27 should be considered obese BMI now?!

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Maybe someone can start posting pictures of what they think a middle aged woman with a BMI of 25 looks like

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My bmi is 24.9. I don’t feel overweight . I wear a size 6 in all the major brands (Ann Taylor, J.Crew, etc).

How does one really know if they are overweight?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe someone can start posting pictures of what they think a middle aged woman with a BMI of 25 looks like

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This thread is about bmi 27 and you go yo body gallery and see for yourself… hint it’s not obese

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe someone can start posting pictures of what they think a middle aged woman with a BMI of 25 looks like

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This thread is about bmi 27 and you go yo body gallery and see for yourself… hint it’s not obese

Oh sorry right . but even 25 is considered overweight . Anyway, carry on

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That's how Americans used to look when they were healthier. Now we try to reframe the narrative after everyone has become obese blobs.

I looked like that in my 20’s was called olive oil and wore size 8.

You aren’t making the point you think you are making.

My son’s skinny AF, his BMI is 25, he wears XL.

Suuuuure.. I'm sure your son has the body of a Greek god to throw off BMI.

Every mom of a fat kid never admits they're overweight but rather 'big boned'.

He’s a D1 athlete so.., your a sad human, eat some carbs it helps your brain work.

Imagine being too stupid to understand basic statistics.


Ahhhhhh....DCUM. Where everyone has a BMI of 25+ yet no one is obese because they must be one or two sigmas away from the average body in terms of muscle mass.

Ha, yeah right. I'm sure you're all hulking, fit beasts built like tanks with clear muscle definition to the point of striations and massive, solid bulk.

You are all delusional.

The delusion in these posts is mostly coming from middle aged women. That group at 25+ BMI is virtually always (like 95%, minimum) on the wrong side of body fat to muscle ratio. That’s just the reality of our species. One that’s easily objectively measured.

But when you have an objective measure where people don’t like the results, the answer is always to attack the measurement.

Again, research shows BMI 26-27 is the healthiest. Sorry you don’t like that.

That study is from 2013. I’m sure if I spent time on it, I could find something supporting the opposite. Science doesn’t work where by finding something that confirmation bias supports your lifestyle choice and then you stop looking.

For example, how does a BMI of 26-27 possibly square with the idea that VO2Max is the best indicator of longevity when the bottom number of that calculation is weight? It can’t. Because it’s effectively physically impossible to do sufficient steady state cardio exercise to continue training the cardio part of that metric while also managing to carry around all that extra weight - the weight would come off, unless the person has a bad cheesecake and ice cream habit.

I totally agree. Unfortunately we are at a point in history where facts don't matter, science isn't real, people want to listen to their own echo chamber, and differing perspective are wrong and stupid. Just look at the political landscape. We have 2 geriatric white guys fighting like children for power over a world they won't be alive to see the impact of their decisions. And even more baffling is people don't care!! ....and will even justify their vote for one of them!

When the other option is not voting? Or vaxx denier RFK? Yes, people will have to justify a vote for one of them.

BMI is an artificial construct and was never meant to be some line at where you are healthy at 24.8 and need to lose weight at 25.2. Your first clue is that men and women use the same scale. As do 20 year old women and post menopausal women. We’ve reached the point that in home scales can give you a decent percent body fat read out. Much better indication of health and able to be indexed by age and gender.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend told me a bit about the history of BMI and who created it. Thought other people might find it interesting.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/the-problem-with-the-body-mass-index-bmi/100728416

Sort of like how math is somehow racist.

Not surprisingly, the author is “big boned.”

Ok so you are have some issues. I believe where the fat matters. Around the waist very bad but not so much on the hips. My sibling who was always thin and had a very low BMI got stage 4 lung cancer. So you can be unhealthy and sick and yet be thin. Imagine that.

Blah. Again. Imagine thinking using anecdotes is meaningful. Way to not understand risk and statistics. Heart disease and strokes are the #1 and #2 killers on the planet.

Being fat and overweight kills. I’m sorry the stats go against the narrative you want to hear. You can tout stories all you want of in shape or skinny people getting cancer or dying young all you want, that still doesn’t negate the overwhelming evidence that being fat and overweight dramatically increases your risk for heart disease and risk of death from it.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend told me a bit about the history of BMI and who created it. Thought other people might find it interesting.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/the-problem-with-the-body-mass-index-bmi/100728416

Sort of like how math is somehow racist.

Not surprisingly, the author is “big boned.”

Ok so you are have some issues. I believe where the fat matters. Around the waist very bad but not so much on the hips. My sibling who was always thin and had a very low BMI got stage 4 lung cancer. So you can be unhealthy and sick and yet be thin. Imagine that.

Blah. Again. Imagine thinking using anecdotes is meaningful. Way to not understand risk and statistics. Heart disease and strokes are the #1 and #2 killers on the planet.

Being fat and overweight kills. I’m sorry the stats go against the narrative you want to hear. You can tout stories all you want of in shape or skinny people getting cancer or dying young all you want, that still doesn’t negate the overwhelming evidence that being fat and overweight dramatically increases your risk for heart disease and risk of death from it.

You are going to die too. No matter how skinny you are.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend told me a bit about the history of BMI and who created it. Thought other people might find it interesting.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/the-problem-with-the-body-mass-index-bmi/100728416

Sort of like how math is somehow racist.

Not surprisingly, the author is “big boned.”

Ok so you are have some issues. I believe where the fat matters. Around the waist very bad but not so much on the hips. My sibling who was always thin and had a very low BMI got stage 4 lung cancer. So you can be unhealthy and sick and yet be thin. Imagine that.

Blah. Again. Imagine thinking using anecdotes is meaningful. Way to not understand risk and statistics. Heart disease and strokes are the #1 and #2 killers on the planet.

Being fat and overweight kills. I’m sorry the stats go against the narrative you want to hear. You can tout stories all you want of in shape or skinny people getting cancer or dying young all you want, that still doesn’t negate the overwhelming evidence that being fat and overweight dramatically increases your risk for heart disease and risk of death from it.

You are going to die too. No matter how skinny you are.

You should also study up on nazis, bmi and eugenics

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Anonymous wrote:For goodness sake, my BMI is 25 and I’m a size 8. What world are people living in?

8 is a 14 of non vanity sizes.

Eating disorder chick is all over this thread

Hardly. I'm a 4 or 8 in old school sizes. I am not thin. My BMI is 20. If my BMI was 24, I would indeed be fat.

Thanks for pointing out just how disordered you are.

DP

I think it's disordered that people want to push the fat agenda to make themselves feel better about being fat. Whatever floats your boat. Guidelines and numbers published by medical organizations are not made up. Your pop science and advice from whatever magazine you pulled from the gutter is made up.

+100.

Fat is now healthy. I'm sure Novo Nordisk loves the fat pushers. Wegovy sales through the roof!

There is no doubt that the makers of semaglutides will start pushing the government to change these standards.

We actually don't know the long term effects of these drugs. I wouldnt encourage anyone to take them unless you are morbidly obese and going to die anyway. Remember the miracle drug fen-phen before all the heart problems arose from it.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend told me a bit about the history of BMI and who created it. Thought other people might find it interesting.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/the-problem-with-the-body-mass-index-bmi/100728416

Sort of like how math is somehow racist.

Not surprisingly, the author is “big boned.”

Ok so you are have some issues. I believe where the fat matters. Around the waist very bad but not so much on the hips. My sibling who was always thin and had a very low BMI got stage 4 lung cancer. So you can be unhealthy and sick and yet be thin. Imagine that.

Of course! You can also be over weight and be healthy. That's how statistics work. 95% of obese people are UNHEALTHY. That means 5% are healthy. The stats are flipped for thin people. Your sibling was in the 5% of thin unhealthy people. I'm going to venture to guess your entire family has mental health issues that manifest around food and unhealthy habits (lack of exercise, smoking, dinking, etc, etc) - that's why you're obese and your sibling is unhealthy.

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Anonymous wrote:For goodness sake, my BMI is 25 and I’m a size 8. What world are people living in?

8 is a 14 of non vanity sizes.

Eating disorder chick is all over this thread

Hardly. I'm a 4 or 8 in old school sizes. I am not thin. My BMI is 20. If my BMI was 24, I would indeed be fat.

Thanks for pointing out just how disordered you are.

DP

I think it's disordered that people want to push the fat agenda to make themselves feel better about being fat. Whatever floats your boat. Guidelines and numbers published by medical organizations are not made up. Your pop science and advice from whatever magazine you pulled from the gutter is made up.

+100.

Fat is now healthy. I'm sure Novo Nordisk loves the fat pushers. Wegovy sales through the roof!

There is no doubt that the makers of semaglutides will start pushing the government to change these standards.

We actually don't know the long term effects of these drugs. I wouldnt encourage anyone to take them unless you are morbidly obese and going to die anyway. Remember the miracle drug fen-phen before all the heart problems arose from it.

Ozempic is not new.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend told me a bit about the history of BMI and who created it. Thought other people might find it interesting.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/the-problem-with-the-body-mass-index-bmi/100728416

Sort of like how math is somehow racist.

Not surprisingly, the author is “big boned.”

Ok so you are have some issues. I believe where the fat matters. Around the waist very bad but not so much on the hips. My sibling who was always thin and had a very low BMI got stage 4 lung cancer. So you can be unhealthy and sick and yet be thin. Imagine that.

You got me. I never conceived of thin people having cancer. Clown world.

What’s instructive here is that people continually feel compelled to bring up random unrelated anecdotes to divert from the reality that 1) BMI is a useful tool, and 2) there is nothing inherently healthy about a 27+ BMI-it’s the opposite. Those are the facts.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend told me a bit about the history of BMI and who created it. Thought other people might find it interesting.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/the-problem-with-the-body-mass-index-bmi/100728416

Sort of like how math is somehow racist.

Not surprisingly, the author is “big boned.”

Ok so you are have some issues. I believe where the fat matters. Around the waist very bad but not so much on the hips. My sibling who was always thin and had a very low BMI got stage 4 lung cancer. So you can be unhealthy and sick and yet be thin. Imagine that.

Blah. Again. Imagine thinking using anecdotes is meaningful. Way to not understand risk and statistics. Heart disease and strokes are the #1 and #2 killers on the planet.

Being fat and overweight kills. I’m sorry the stats go against the narrative you want to hear. You can tout stories all you want of in shape or skinny people getting cancer or dying young all you want, that still doesn’t negate the overwhelming evidence that being fat and overweight dramatically increases your risk for heart disease and risk of death from it.

You are going to die too. No matter how skinny you are.

You should also study up on nazis, bmi and eugenics

You should study up on nazi scientist involvement in our space program. We can end the thread now that I’ve come up with the most random side show to distract from the reality of fat people in the US and their poor health.

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Anonymous wrote:My friend told me a bit about the history of BMI and who created it. Thought other people might find it interesting.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-02/the-problem-with-the-body-mass-index-bmi/100728416

Sort of like how math is somehow racist.

Not surprisingly, the author is “big boned.”

Ok so you are have some issues. I believe where the fat matters. Around the waist very bad but not so much on the hips. My sibling who was always thin and had a very low BMI got stage 4 lung cancer. So you can be unhealthy and sick and yet be thin. Imagine that.

Of course! You can also be over weight and be healthy. That's how statistics work. 95% of obese people are UNHEALTHY. That means 5% are healthy. The stats are flipped for thin people. Your sibling was in the 5% of thin unhealthy people. I'm going to venture to guess your entire family has mental health issues that manifest around food and unhealthy habits (lack of exercise, smoking, dinking, etc, etc) - that's why you're obese and your sibling is unhealthy.

Well you certainly 'know' me internet stranger! I know you won't believe this but I am not obese. My siblings and I never smoked and don't drink. Sure I could lose about 10 pounds around my stomach ( I had two c-sections) but otherwise I am healthy. I am 57 and don't take any medications.

You are going to die same as me. But at least I am not a mean person making up stories about people you don't know!

Ps I know why my sibling got cancer but I am not sharing with you.

I know why my sibling got sick but I am not going