This is actually chilling to read. I can’t tell if you’re mentally ill or if this is a normal perspective among gun lovers like you. |
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Can someone remind me of when Australia became a brutal dictatorship oppressing the populace when they put strict gun laws in place?
Oh that's right, they didn't. Neither did anywhere else. |
The 2nd Amendment gives every American the right to own a gun. I am exercising my 2nd Amendment rights. What other rights guaranteed by the Constitution are exercised out of “fear?” Owning guns and hunting and shooting skeet are all enjoyable hobbies. Hunting is extremely enjoyable and venison is delicious. It’s nice to have a freezer packed with venison. Why do you associate a Constitutional right with fear? You seem to be projecting your fear of guns onto other people. My Military training with weapons began in Basic Training, every trainee must qualify on their weapon to graduate Basic Training. That is not based on fear; it’s based on the ability to safely and effectively use a weapon to protect yourself, your buddies, and protect America. You do understand there are many people who don’t like Americans and America, and we protect our people and country with weapons, right? Do you think police should be unarmed- what are they afraid of? Politicians and celebrities have bodyguards and security- what are they afraid of? Jewish synagogues have armed security guards- what are they afraid of? Walk into your local Social Security Administration office, the first person you will encounter is a fully armed security guard- what are they afraid of? Why do you live in the community you do? Did you choose a house in part based on location? You did? Why? Are you so afraid of crime you bought a house in an area with low crime? Why? What are you afraid of in low or lower ses communities? Do you lock your door to your home, have a security system, and Ring/Nest doorbells and cameras around your home and property? What are you afraid of? |
Did you read the post this post is responding to? A gun control freak proposed using Bradley Fighting Vehicles and attack helicopters on American citizens who owned guns. Why is that not chilling? |
report [Post New]01/19/2024 12:01 Anonymous Anonymous wrote: So you want a dictator, think US citizens would behave in the same manner as citizens as the former Soviet Union, think UN troops could disarm the American public and everyone would live in peace and harmony every after? Quite the vivid imagination you have. “I don’t believe everyone will live in peace and harmony. I believe a lot of gun extremists need to die and will die in the process. And I don’t give a **** about them. I care about the rest of us, the 240 million people who DON’T have guns. If some of those gun nutters surrender peacefully and turn their guns in by the deadline then that’s fine. Then can all have reduced or light sentences, fines, probation and the like. They will be treated easily. It’s the holdouts I want to see getting slaughtered in the streets. And yes, the UN will happily assist our country if we ask them to. Because their support is essential to the process. We cannot trust our own military and law enforcement, which has been heavily infiltrated by the right wingers, to carry out gun safety initiatives like this because too many of them cannot be trusted to crack down on these criminals. And by “behave in the same manner as citizens of the former Soviet Union” you mean not murder their fellow citizens with guns then yes that is exactly how I expect them to behave. The Soviets were’t plagued with guns and gun nutters and crime. They dealt with malcontents harshly and immediately, and had a essentially crime free society because of it. Their human rights record leaves a lot to be desired in terms of political dissidents, but for the everyday ordinary person, the6 didn’t have to wonder if they’d be massacred every time they left their homes. It’s not a vivid imagination. It’s a vision. And if we can elect someone with the courage to carry it out, we can achieve it. Otherwise we’ll also be at the mercy of republicans and the gun lobby. And I’ve had enough of both to want them exterminated.” and next: It’s a vision we will live to see. This is the correct answer to our society’s biggest problems. It would rid us of small minded bigots and maga. Gun owners are all cowards. They must either be disarmed or removed from society one way or another. https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/60/1180122.page This thread featured gun control “advocates” speaking about how they want to kill American citizens for owning guns. Are you chilled by that? It’s so confusing that you are chilled by my defense of the 2nd Amendment, and by my reaction to being threatened by democrats with being killed by a Bradley or attack helicopter for exercising my constitutional right to own guns. Again: gun control advocates don’t care about saving lives, because they want to kill their fellow citizens to take their guns. They want to implement gun control, that’s the plan. Human life means nothing to them. |
| How do we feel about the PLCAA law that protects gun manufacturers from liability when their guns murder innocent people? |
The Second Amendment states that as an American citizen, you have the individual right to arm yourself. The amendment firmly establishes that the government cannot infringe on that right. The Fourth Amendment, which protects another fundamental individual right, uses similar language. The Fourth Amendment states: “The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated…” This is notable because it affirms that the Founding Fathers intended the Second Amendment to protect an individual right. District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) On June 26, 2008, the Supreme Court affirmed that the Second Amendment guarantees the individual right to keep and bear arms for lawful uses. The court decision was a breakthrough for Second Amendment rights. It meant that the Founding Fathers’ intention to grant that individual right could not be misinterpreted by those seeking to pass unconstitutional gun control legislation. The ruling read, in part: “The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.” McDonald v. Chicago (2010) Despite the Supreme Court’s ruling in Heller, some states still tried to pass laws that infringed upon an individual right to keep and bear arms. In McDonald, the Supreme Court affirmed that through the Fourteenth Amendment, Americans have the individual right to keep and bear arms regardless of city or state. The ruling reads, in part: “… the Fourteenth Amendment incorporates the Second Amendment right, recognized in Heller, to keep and bear arms for the purpose of self-defense.” |
Guns are inanimate objects, have you ever seen a mug shot of a gun that was arrested for murder? Has a gun ever been found guilty of murder by a jury of its peers and been sentenced to prison? How do guns choose their victims? Do they exact vengeance because of a drug deal gone wrong? Did their gun wives cheat on them with a more expensive and handsome gun so they decided to kill the owner of that gun to teach it a lesson? Are you saying the criminals who kill people are innocent and the real criminal is the manufacturer of a gun? What if the gun manufacturer puts a little note inside the box the gun is sold in that says that they want the person who buys the gun to obey all laws? What if the gun manufacturer calls the gun owner’s mom and asks her to facetime the gun owner and tell them not to kill people? What if the gun owner’s mom says she is too busy doing crack, can the victim’s family sue her for raising a person that thinks murder is a viable option? If a gun manufacturer is guilty of murder for producing a gun, should the person who used the gun to kill another human being sue the gun manufacturer for producing an item that caused them to be imprisoned? After all, if the manufacturer didn’t make the gun, the killer would not have had the ability to kill another human? |
The fascist and communist uses a gun to make it so you can’t own a gun. Guns are so bad, only they should own guns. It’s for your own safety and protection! |
That’s not true. The fascists are always the right-wing cult that has most of the guns. |
So true. These nra gun nuts need to relax. We will reinstate the assault weapons ban like we had before and life continued on. We will try to buy back as many as possible because this is an issue that money can greatly solve. No silly dramatic 2nd amendment violence required. And on we go. |
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"And by “behave in the same manner as citizens of the former Soviet Union” you mean not murder their fellow citizens with guns then yes that is exactly how I expect them to behave. The Soviets were’t plagued with guns and gun nutters and crime. They dealt with malcontents harshly and immediately, and had a essentially crime free society because of it. Their human rights record leaves a lot to be desired in terms of political dissidents, but for the everyday ordinary person, the6 didn’t have to wonder if they’d be massacred every time they left their homes.“
So this paragraph from the gun control advocate who wants to see their fellow Americans “slaughtered in the streets,” her words. Lethal Politics Contents || Preface || Appendix A: Methods and Procedures Other Democide Related Documents On This Site Nontechnical: What is democide? "Democide vs genocide. Which is what?" "War isn't this century's biggest killer" "How many did communist regimes murder?" Professional: "Democide in totalitarian states: mortacracies and megamurderers" "The Holocaust in comparative and historical perspective" Graduate Syllabus on Repression and Democide Statistical: "Power kills: genocide and mass murder" "Power predicts democide" Books: China's Bloody Century Nazi Democide Death By Government Statistics of Democide (entire) LETHAL POLITICS Chapter 1 61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered* By R.J. Rummel ...when we are reproached with cruelty, we wonder how people can forget the most elementary Marxism. ---- Lenin "How long will you keep killing people?" asked Lady Astor of Stalin in 1931. Replied Stalin, "the process would continue as long as was necessary" to establish a communist society. Probably 61,911,000 people, 54,769,000 of them citizens, have been murdered by the Communist Party--the government--of the Soviet Union. This is about 178 people for each letter, comma, period, digit, and other characters in this book. Old and young, healthy and sick, men and women, and even infants and infirm, were killed in cold-blood. They were not combatants in civil war or rebellions, they were not criminals. Indeed, nearly all were guilty of ... nothing. https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/USSR.CHAP.1.HTM |
Did TJ allow his slaves to own guns? |
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Just consider this error range in Soviet democide, as shown in Figure 1.1. It is larger than the population of 96 percent of the world's nations and countries. Actually, if France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Switzerland were blasted clean of all human life in a nuclear war, the human toll would be less than just this range in the Soviet's probable democide--the range, and not even the total murdered. https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/USSR.CHAP.1.HTM The Soviet Union’s gun control measures included an outright ban on individual gun ownership. The Bolshevik Revolution put an end to the free circulation of guns among the general public. The leaders of the uprising knew only too well what the masses were capable of, especially if armed up to the teeth, and moved to monopolize gun ownership. In 1918 the Bolsheviks initiated a large scale confiscation of civilian firearms, outlawing their possession and threatening up to 10 years in prison for concealing a gun. The only exception was made for hunters who were allowed to possess smoothbore weapons. Gun licenses, however, were strictly regulated and only issued by the NKVD, the police organization known for its role in Joseph Stalin’s political purges. https://www.rbth.com/history/326865-guns-rifles-russia-revolution/amp |