Just imagine what we could do from an electoral standpoint if we had a viable presidential candidate to run against Trump. Biden still has a chance to beat Trump and I hope he does but man it sure would be fun to watch a legitimate candidate lock in the victory with a 1984 Reagan like landslide crushing of Trump and MAGA! A cozy Rehoboth retirement village is calling your name Joe! lol |
I'm the PP you are responding to. I think Biden is correct, though. If Biden doesn't run, Trump holds the upper hand as a former President. Biden can "trump" Trump (pun intended) as the incumbent. So he can cancel out the incumbency between them. And I believe that there are still more anybody-but-Trump voters than anybody-but-Biden voters. So, Biden can cancel out Trump. However, with Trump in the race without Biden, he does hold an edge as he would have the vote of people who vote for incumbency or "experience". There are still many less read voters who will vote for the higher name recognition and they will recognize Trump as a former President, so they will vote for him because he has the experience that a new candidate will not have. There are many people who will vote, but do not pay much attention to issues. Biden has also implied that he is only running to prevent Trump from regaining the presidency. If Trump were to withdraw or get knocked out of the race, I would guess that Biden would also withdraw from the race. |
Are you suggesting that the elderly, bumbling Biden would be more appealing to swing voters in swing states than Whitmer? That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard in 6 weeks. Biden is a big time liability to the party at this point. |
No. I am saying that Biden is the only one who can definitely beat Trump. He negates the former President incumbent benefit. I think that Whitmer is an amazing candidate, but I'm not certain that she can beat the MAGA GOP steamroller. Without Biden in the race, essentially Trump would immediately get a bump from those people who like incumbents or those that are already experienced with the office that they are running for. Biden is the only opponent that can negate that bonus for Trump. |
| I think Biden will end up pulling out. This latest incident with Austin is all on the Biden admin. Cannot blame maga or trump or republicans at all and it’s not a good situation. News is trying to paper it over but it is not ok on any level. It confirms or at least syncs up with a view that I hear with increasing frequency that no one is really in charge. The different executive agencies are sort of doing their own thing because there really isn’t any leadership or guidance from Biden. This incident kind of makes that seem plausible. |
Um, no. The Austin thing is not going to be the tipping point. |
Biden has a 50/50 chance of beating Trump. Whitmer would have a 97% chance of beating Trump. To say otherwise is to say the voting American public is as dumb as a brick. |
Yes. There’s a ton of swing voters who are deeply misogynistic and will laugh at and enjoy Trump’s juvenile taunts of a woman candidate. Lots of Boomer men who are “socially liberal, but fiscally conservative” fall into this camp. |
There are about 170 million registered voters in the US. The misogynist boomer male who revels in attacks on women is not a huge market. Archie Bunker was a long time ago. They are mostly dead. My prediction is Nikki Haley is the next president. She will lose Iowa. But she will win New Hampshire. Her polling is very good. And then the dam breaks for Trump. The inevitability is gone. The other Republicans will drop out. The anti-Trump vote will coalesce around Haley. And there is nothing good in the news cycle for Trump. 91 indictments. Court case after court case. Only the Trump cultists will stick with him. Meanwhile, Haley cruises. It's too late for Democrats to choose someone besides Biden. He probably beats Trump but no other sentient human being. Haley wins easily. Republicans take back the Senate. But will lose the House. |
You're delusional. MAGA has a stranglehold on the GOP primary process. Haley may do better than expected in NH, but she won't win. She may not even win SC. Trump will be the candidate. Biden will win. But not by nearly as much as he should. |
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People relying on abortion ignore that it's not being reflected in the polls. You'd think it would be, especially after how hot a topic it was in the last few years. But remember that states like Kansas and Ohio firmly voted to retain abortion and will go on to firmly vote for Turnip. And Turnip isn't as associated with pro life as you'd think. He's openly called for compromise on abortion.
Turnip gets a lot of support from people who don't normally turn out for Republicans. |
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Biden is pulling out.
Kamala is on the ballot. Only question is who will run for her VP? |
NP here - PP who thinks only Biden can beat Trump - you my friend are dumb as a brick if you think this. Anyone younger has a better chance of winning v Tump (or Biden). Even Kennedy has a shot. Haley for sure. These 2 old white dudes are a trainwreck both. Different reasons but same result. I think this election is up for grabs. I don't think Trump will pull it out as the powers that be are not enchanted by him if still the masses are. I don't think Biden will win IF any viable GOP candidate pitches effectively ie mainstream. Biden should really bow out. Any viable democrat other than Biden/Harris has a great shot v GOP. |
Kamala is younger. Do you think she can beat Trump? |
| Regardless of who wins in November, there’s going to a level of politicial violence never before seen in this country. |