As a woman what have you learned about men?

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Anonymous wrote:Men are optimists. They patiently tolerate all the b.s. and hypocrisy ladled out by the women in their lives hoping that one day the woman will suddenly become enlightened. Even though the odds strongly disfavor that ever happening. "But but but only a LOSER baby man expects the woman to pay for a date!!!![said the feminist].". Lol.

I guarantee if you'd work on that misogynistic anger you'd get laid more often.

I bet if a survey was taken, it would show that people who throw around terms like misogynist and misogynistic anger as part of their regular discussion habits would turn out to be amongst the most angry and frustrated of all. Projecting your hostility and anger onto others isn't a good look.

And this just shows you how wrong you are. Just upthread I was defending a man for simply expressing what his preferences are in a partner when a bunch of women started laughing at him. You should examine why you have so much hate and hostility towards women. I'm not projecting my anger since I have none towards men (I have a son and a wonderful partner) but you seem to be extremely angry.

Your poor son. Your poor partner. I pity them.

Like I said, work on that anger issue. Not for me or any woman you might encounter and repulse. But for you! it will make you a lot happier.

Projection is when you externalize your own emotions onto someone else because you are too ashamed to acknowledge them in yourself. You surely aren't a mind reader. Your insistence on attributing emotions to other people simply because they don't have the same opinion as.you is classic projection, especially given your insistence on doubling and tripling down when called out in it. Another clue is your insistence that all men are angry except for your "wonderful" husband. Your husband must be wonderful or else it would reflect poorly on you. Narcissist much?

BAHAHAHAAA and then he is going to mansplain "projection" to me. You are too much. Be well my angry friend.

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Men are not as holistic-thinking as women. Part nature, part socialization. They will never be responsible for having a body which grows or feeds another life, so they don’t naturally understand how to think for the whole. This can be taught, but it’s important to recognize it doesn’t come naturally.

Men express themselves differently. Joy, anger, sadness may be expressed physically rather than verbally. This may be nature or socialization, the point is that it is this way. So they need sex more to feel good, they need to exercise more to feel good.

Men are much more limited in how they can be. It’s not acceptable to wear dresses, they are still expected to earn and provide, they are supposed to be confident without receiving compliments or attention. For men who fall outside these boxes, life is difficult. Women face a lot of obstacles in life but do have more freedom in how they can present themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:They think about you know what all the time

Its the only thing they think about !

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Anonymous wrote:If you complain about something, they will try to find a solution. They don't want to just listen to a problem (even though sometimes that's all you want them to do).

You must have read Men are from Mars Women are from Venus

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Anonymous wrote:They think about you know what all the time

Its the only thing they think about !

how do they get anything done?

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Anonymous wrote:They love sex. The end

Not low T men.

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Anonymous wrote:They are full of themselves. They are not as great as they think they are in all aspects (e.g. career, looks, sports, sex, etc.)

This. And very selfish.

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Anonymous wrote:From this thread, it sounds like women are raising crappy men. Do better, moms.

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Anonymous wrote:They love sex. The end

I learned that many men are chronically angry and hurt because of what they've experienced. Most people didn't have DCUM-perfect lives. Some of these men make amazing, solid partners. Some of them are abusive MOFOs. Know the red flags / signs of a person who shows healthy, legitimate anger vs a person who is lashing out abusively, or showing early signs of abuse. Do not confuse the two. Leave the abusive one, no matter how attractive.

For the angry non-abusive one - maybe it's a person who had too many bad experiences but is stronger and wiser for it. So treat him well, respect where he's coming from.

How would you describe the red flags?

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Given all the discussion about men not pulling their weight with chores/childcare:

Most men/dads are not going to carry their share with these things, no matter what you do. However, they tend to be very accommodating with whatever else you propose to take the load off of yourself- so you might as well just plan things how you want them and he will likely go along. Hiring more help, dropping to part time for awhile while the kids are small, living near helpful family/grandparents etc. It is a lot easier to convince men to help you make those things happen than it is to somehow get them to do 50/50 at home without a constant battle. IME.

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Men aren’t funny.

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Anonymous wrote:Given all the discussion about men not pulling their weight with chores/childcare:

Most men/dads are not going to carry their share with these things, no matter what you do. However, they tend to be very accommodating with whatever else you propose to take the load off of yourself- so you might as well just plan things how you want them and he will likely go along. Hiring more help, dropping to part time for awhile while the kids are small, living near helpful family/grandparents etc. It is a lot easier to convince men to help you make those things happen than it is to somehow get them to do 50/50 at home without a constant battle. IME.

I think we should be very careful about the attitude that men just innately can’t contribute 50/50.

DH does more than 50/50. So did his dad. That was simply the culture of their home. None of this is innate and it is all learned behavior. Single men take care of themselves. Single dads take care of their children. Men do what they are taught to do.

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Anonymous wrote:Men are pretty simple. They are not emotionally complex nor do they need a lot of socialization. They are happy to sit alone in front of a tv for three hours watching a football game even if they have no interest in a team. They are conversation light so don’t expect to ever be on the phone with them for more than ten minutes. They like simple meals because clean up is easy. They want sex more often than a woman but if you give them a BJ once in awhile they will not complain about frequency. They like being fathers because it means they have someone to play with. Compliment or thank them for doing basic things like emptying the dishwasher because it improves the odds they will do it again without being asked. They are very unsubtle about looking at other women but it’s usually not an issue.

What kind of troglodytes are you hanging around with?

The men I know read books about history and science and want to have deep conversations. They listen to interesting podcasts and talk about them. They have hobbies and socialize with one another. They make meals for their families because they love feeding their loved ones. They love being fathers because it's amazing to watch their kids grow. They're hard working because they take pride in what they do.

I'm a woman and just realized that I could write a love letter to the amazing men in my life.

Thank you Ms Stepford!

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They can be physically scary to women.

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Most men hold a lot of contempt for women.
Ugly women are invisible to them.