As a woman what have you learned about men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of men seem to either truly dislike or fear women. Many in my age range, 40’s, have major insecurities about anything from their job status, net worth, appearance, anything. Many project that stuff onto partners and everyone suffers.

But…..mostly……I agree with many PP’s about many men being toddlers who dream of being the adult child of a more successful or more functional woman.

Last kids’ event I went to, every father sat alone texting while every single woman helped run the event, networked, made magic happen, took care of the kids, and cleaned up. These guys could have cared less. You don’t think the kids see this?

The future is female. Men have to do a heck of a lot more than just earn these days, especially if they have kids.

You sound so dumb!

[Anonymous]

Men and women are a lot alike. All can be kind, funny, loving, protectors, good providers, etc. and can have comparable bad qualities.

Good qualities in men that I've experienced:
Being (and wanting to be) helpful and being modest about it. Some men are good at seeing through a dilemma in a way women sometimes can't. They trust their thought processes so they can say what they want and are decisive. They can be easier to deal with than women because they are more confident in themselves and less insecure: they are raised to be and the world tells them to be so. They accept hierarchies and function well in them.

Bad qualities: wanting some extra kudos just for existing, for any effort. Like a male lion. Expecting deference from women just because they are men.

[Anonymous]

In marriage, they consider sex to be by far the most important thing (and wife maintaining her physical appearance a part of that). General pleasantness after that. Beyond that, they don’t seem to care all that much about anything else unless it is very extreme in some way (alcoholic/addiction, unbelievably lazy or depressed, a hoarder, serious untreated mental illness, dangerously irresponsible parent, gambling addiction or extreme spending problem - something like that).

[Anonymous]

Men just want sex and with a variety of women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men just want sex and with a variety of women.

I legitimately don't understand why people keep saying this when it is demonstrably false.

Look at the women on this board who complain about men with low libidos. Look at the men who are sad that their wives don't want to sleep with them and that they could go sleep with someone else but they want intimacy with their wives. Look at the men who do get lots of sex but feel empty and dissatisfied. Heck, look at the men who give up that life for a lifetime of monogamy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men just want sex and with a variety of women.

I legitimately don't understand why people keep saying this when it is demonstrably false.

Look at the women on this board who complain about men with low libidos. Look at the men who are sad that their wives don't want to sleep with them and that they could go sleep with someone else but they want intimacy with their wives. Look at the men who do get lots of sex but feel empty and dissatisfied. Heck, look at the men who give up that life for a lifetime of monogamy.

Doesn’t mean they don’t want to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men just want sex and with a variety of women.

I legitimately don't understand why people keep saying this when it is demonstrably false.

Look at the women on this board who complain about men with low libidos. Look at the men who are sad that their wives don't want to sleep with them and that they could go sleep with someone else but they want intimacy with their wives. Look at the men who do get lots of sex but feel empty and dissatisfied. Heck, look at the men who give up that life for a lifetime of monogamy.

Doesn’t mean they don’t want to.

Well, if a man only wants sex with his wife, then yes, it does men he doesn't want to have sex with a variety of women. But it's the "just" part of the above statement that is absolutely wrong. Very few men *just* want sex and with a variety of women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Last kids’ event I went to, every father sat alone texting while every single woman helped run the event, networked, made magic happen, took care of the kids, and cleaned up. These guys could have cared less. You don’t think the kids see this?

These men probably tried to help at similar events when the kids were younger only to be told one way or another they were doing it wrong because they didn’t know the very particular way things should be done. They’ve learned that it’s so much easier to just stand back and let the women do it rather than look like an idiot for not knowing which colors match or something like that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men just want sex and with a variety of women.

I legitimately don't understand why people keep saying this when it is demonstrably false.

Look at the women on this board who complain about men with low libidos. Look at the men who are sad that their wives don't want to sleep with them and that they could go sleep with someone else but they want intimacy with their wives. Look at the men who do get lots of sex but feel empty and dissatisfied. Heck, look at the men who give up that life for a lifetime of monogamy.

Doesn’t mean they don’t want to.

Lol. Look. You chose wrong. Possibly multiple times. It doesn’t mean you are the authority on every man on the planet. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men are pretty simple. They are not emotionally complex nor do they need a lot of socialization. They are happy to sit alone in front of a tv for three hours watching a football game even if they have no interest in a team. They are conversation light so don’t expect to ever be on the phone with them for more than ten minutes. They like simple meals because clean up is easy. They want sex more often than a woman but if you give them a BJ once in awhile they will not complain about frequency. They like being fathers because it means they have someone to play with. Compliment or thank them for doing basic things like emptying the dishwasher because it improves the odds they will do it again without being asked. They are very unsubtle about looking at other women but it’s usually not an issue.

What kind of troglodytes are you hanging around with?

The men I know read books about history and science and want to have deep conversations. They listen to interesting podcasts and talk about them. They have hobbies and socialize with one another. They make meals for their families because they love feeding their loved ones. They love being fathers because it's amazing to watch their kids grow. They're hard working because they take pride in what they do.

I'm a woman and just realized that I could write a love letter to the amazing men in my life.

These two posts encapsulate the two different attitudes toward men that this thread is capturing. Some women have encountered plenty of kind, sensitive, intelligent, responsible men...while others apparently have only ever known frat-boy degenerates. I wonder why that is.

You can tell a lot about a person by the company that she keeps.