Whoa FCPS- data breach

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. While I sympathize, this woman has wreaked operational havoc on the schools her children have attended. I know one AP who spent her summer dealing with document requests from her instead of working on things that were needed to open school in the fall.

She was an "advocate" for one of the students in my lower ES class. She and the mom of the child were nasty from the second we sat down in an initial meeting. I typically walk into a meeting and present a pleasant greeting and small talk. Neither would make eye contact, let alone smile. They interrupted and they looked for any opportunity to find a "gotcha" moment. I remember trying to point out some positives about the child's academic work and they didn't want to hear it. It was all very negative and stressful when all I wanted to do was work with the parent in support of the child.

Nobody owes you pleasantries especially during a stressful time. Your focus once you walk in that room should be identifying problems and solutions to help that child. The parent (or child if they are present) should be the lead voice of the meeting, if they find it necessary to interrupt anyone then so be it. Sounds like you weren’t being helpful and they were trying to best utilize the time and keep the focus on identifying concerns and solutions. An advocate is there to help advocate for the child/parent and step in when they need to keep the focus on problems and solutions, it sounds like they did that. If something offended you then you should use it as a learning experience for how to conduct yourself differently next time. A productive IEP will skew negative and stressful in general, so you might need to change your expectations. I hope you keep the bad mouthing of other advocates and parents to yourself though, it’s really not a good look for a teacher.

I'm not the person you are talking to but you are way out of line. Teachers and parents should be a team and there should be respect on both sides. This is part of the problem in SPED right now...acting like educators are the enemy. Parents and teachers should be kind to one another. SMH! Teachers aren't out to get you or your kids. You need to change your attitude.

They are often out to do the bare minimum though; Teachers and staff complain about kids and parents and workload on here all the time. I have a long list of accommodations for my child and only one was ever implemented correctly without having to go back to the teachers during the year. I've had teachers insult me on the first month because they don't think my kid needs their accommodation and they've only known the child for less than 30 days. We still have to work with these teachers and staff for the benefit of our children even if they are rude and judgmental. It is certainly not just a one-sided issue with parents against staff. Many staff think they know what's best for these children based on the first three weeks of school. Even conferences aren't as early as special ed meetings. For anyone to go into a meeting with preconceived ideas of how it will go and how the child is as a whole human is assuming too much about the child and the meeting. People interject all the time. This isn't being very rude. Some people run on and take up the entire meeting. The rest of that teacher's post is just opinion. There was no real out of control behavior and I've seen parents yell at our school before and teachers for that matter too. Some staff has been helpful the whole way for my kid but others while they weren't out to get my kid, weren't out to help my kid either. If teachers and administrators can be that dissatisfied with their job with regular ed kids, they are more than disinterested in working with many special ed kids. Callie should not have published the documents or took them, but there was a reason FCPS was sued and has to pay compensatory services. Perhaps this person Callie is combative and that doesn't help situations she works with, but it also doesn't help families to have their child's private information just given out like this without care. These are two different issues. If this person really was such a bother, why did she get so much information so easily?

Parents complain on here non stop...and yeah we still need to work with you too even when you are rude and condescending. What's your point-you seem all over the place. I think what parents like you forget is schools are not there for just one child. Schools are there for all kids but once there is an IEP parents think teachers owe them the world. NO and you know what I'm a teacher if a parent yells at me they should prepare for me to go back at them-I do not tolerate disrespect and teachers do not work for parents. You seem like you have trouble seeing other sides to things and realizing the world does not revolve around you and your child.

Actually you do work for the parents since taxes pay your salary.

LOL....no

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Someone who didn't want to go to the police for a sex assault with a band member she was having sec either on a field trip won over $500k in a lawsuit over releasing data? That is just wrong. I feel for the girl but the family capitalized on this and went through the wrong channels. They are doing no favors to anyone in the future who might be assaulted by this person. What a waste of funds

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https://studentprivacy.ed.gov/sites/default/files/resource_document/file/Parent%20Guide%20to%20Data%20Breach.pdf

Have 180 days to file a complaint.

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Were any names actually released other than to this woman? Maybe people could advocate for more money to fix the problem rather than to sue? Hire someone to help FCPS in this foia office?

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Anonymous wrote:Were any names actually released other than to this woman? Maybe people could advocate for more money to fix the problem rather than to sue? Hire someone to help FCPS in this foia office?

Shh, stop being logical.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any names actually released other than to this woman? Maybe people could advocate for more money to fix the problem rather than to sue? Hire someone to help FCPS in this foia office?

The problem could be fixed if they charged the actual cost of providing material to requesters and if they took their time meeting requests

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Anonymous wrote:Were any names actually released other than to this woman? Maybe people could advocate for more money to fix the problem rather than to sue? Hire someone to help FCPS in this foia office?

The problem could be fixed if they charged the actual cost of providing material to requesters and if they took their time meeting requests

Problem is Oettinger will happily send her lawyers to FCPS to waste even more time and money if they did that. She is literally making things difficult on purpose to try to get FCPS to screw up. She has a whole team of attorneys waiting to sue for anything and everything she digs up. She is a sick, sick woman.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any names actually released other than to this woman? Maybe people could advocate for more money to fix the problem rather than to sue? Hire someone to help FCPS in this foia office?

The problem could be fixed if they charged the actual cost of providing material to requesters and if they took their time meeting requests

Problem is Oettinger will happily send her lawyers to FCPS to waste even more time and money if they did that. She is literally making things difficult on purpose to try to get FCPS to screw up. She has a whole team of attorneys waiting to sue for anything and everything she digs up. She is a sick, sick woman.

is there evidence of this or are you just making stuff up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Were any names actually released other than to this woman? Maybe people could advocate for more money to fix the problem rather than to sue? Hire someone to help FCPS in this foia office?

The problem could be fixed if they charged the actual cost of providing material to requesters and if they took their time meeting requests

Problem is Oettinger will happily send her lawyers to FCPS to waste even more time and money if they did that. She is literally making things difficult on purpose to try to get FCPS to screw up. She has a whole team of attorneys waiting to sue for anything and everything she digs up. She is a sick, sick woman.

is there evidence of this or are you just making stuff up?

Yes--but I don't have rights to share a list of all pending/dismissed/litigated cases. You will see her name many times if I did.

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Anonymous wrote:Special needs parents are going to bleed public schools dry.

I’m sure some people here will be mad at me for saying this, but I’m going to go ahead and say it. I think some parents are frustrated and upset that their child has struggles and it’s easier to direct those feelings outward in the form of anger at teachers and schools, than to come to terms with the reality that there’s only going to be so much that anyone can do to help.

Correct, and the federal laws that govern everything about special education are very burdensome and unrealistic for many school districts to carry out properly due to lack of funding and personnel.

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Let's be honest. FCPS isn't good at much. It's not the kid's fault.

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Anonymous wrote:Special needs parents are going to bleed public schools dry.

I’m sure some people here will be mad at me for saying this, but I’m going to go ahead and say it. I think some parents are frustrated and upset that their child has struggles and it’s easier to direct those feelings outward in the form of anger at teachers and schools, than to come to terms with the reality that there’s only going to be so much that anyone can do to help.

Correct, and the federal laws that govern everything about special education are very burdensome and unrealistic for many school districts to carry out properly due to lack of funding and personnel.

The person who was sexually assaulted and sued and won hundreds of thousands of dollars may or may not have been a special needs student. Plenty of regular Ed parents are over the top as well and no more than special needs parents. Most families of special needs children also have another child or more who doesn't meet the criteria for special Ed. So they've seen both sides and have an invested interest In all students receiving adequate education. If you aren't a special needs parent why do you talk about things you don't even know? I went to two of Dr Reids discussions and it wasn't the special needs parents who were taking up the floor with their complaints.

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Anonymous wrote:Special needs parents are going to bleed public schools dry.

I’m sure some people here will be mad at me for saying this, but I’m going to go ahead and say it. I think some parents are frustrated and upset that their child has struggles and it’s easier to direct those feelings outward in the form of anger at teachers and schools, than to come to terms with the reality that there’s only going to be so much that anyone can do to help.

This is completely off topic from the data breech but no that is not the case. We are talking about a data breach not money and we dont need to justify spending to talk about it. You seem upset sbout spending which is why you are derailing the topic. Many parents have to take care of these children into adulthood and their entire lives. The government wont help at least half of them. You have no idea what youvsre talking about. In my experience I was shocked how hard it was to get anything done. As a business model, they woukd be out of business if there was another school system in town. The first year the school and I came up with a list for my child that matched the neuropysch testing and each year after I had to fight just to get anything done on it. Teachers would lie and say things were great and no support needed till end of first quarter when things would become an emergency. Flip flop like this every year. Except at the middle school where the plan was fulfilled without a second thought and the private school where some of the list was part of every day. If one school can fulfill a list without fanfare then its the school that cant which is the problem. Public school employees really can be that bad and it's pretty obvious here that they don't know how to complete a foia request. Many fcps employees, I hate to say it, but are not that bright. Maybe they were special ed as well
Maybe you should focus your monetary frustration towards this employee that couldn't keep our kids records private. Would you want your kids records released like this?

You seem like a very depressed and obsessed person....I'm willing to bet most of these responses are from you. I'm sorry you are this unhappy in life.

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Two news articles on this already. Deflect all you want.

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Anonymous wrote:Were any names actually released other than to this woman? Maybe people could advocate for more money to fix the problem rather than to sue? Hire someone to help FCPS in this foia office?

The problem could be fixed if they charged the actual cost of providing material to requesters and if they took their time meeting requests

Problem is Oettinger will happily send her lawyers to FCPS to waste even more time and money if they did that. She is literally making things difficult on purpose to try to get FCPS to screw up. She has a whole team of attorneys waiting to sue for anything and everything she digs up. She is a sick, sick woman.

If she wants to sue fine. Let her. Enough suits and she becomes a vexatious litigant and they never have to deal with her again