Advice needed: Sister-in-law’s touring dozens of no-name colleges with student-athlete daughter

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is ABSOLUTELY none of your business. But sure insert your opinions. I’m sure that will do wonders for the family relationship. Butt the F out.

Let me add that your idea of "no-name" means nothing. Perhaps you haven't heard of Colby? Bates? Swarthmore?

Those you rattled off are not no-name, obviously. I am referring to truly obscure regional liberal arts colleges. Colleges that may not exist in 10 years.

Please name a few of the schools. Serious question as some no-name small schools are interesting & worthwhile for various reasons.

Franklin, Wittenberg, Roon, Providence

Laughing hysterically at Providence being a no-name school.

I'm a west-coaster but have been on the east coast for 20+ years. Never heard of any of these colleges.

Well, lack of knowledge or education on your part doesn’t change reality.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow! This thread has really triggered all those parents who have spent tens of thousands of dollars. Not to mention countless hours, and sacrificed time that could have been spent on their other kids or hobbies, just so they could travel to Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Upper Marlborough all those weekends and stay at $65/night motels for the sake of all of those travel teams for their ‘elite’ sons and daughters. OP, I applaud you.

You sound ignorant. Sad.

[Anonymous]

There is no reason to bash small schools or small school sports just because you are not familiar with them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is ABSOLUTELY none of your business. But sure insert your opinions. I’m sure that will do wonders for the family relationship. Butt the F out.

Let me add that your idea of "no-name" means nothing. Perhaps you haven't heard of Colby? Bates? Swarthmore?

Those you rattled off are not no-name, obviously. I am referring to truly obscure regional liberal arts colleges. Colleges that may not exist in 10 years.

Please name a few of the schools. Serious question as some no-name small schools are interesting & worthwhile for various reasons.

Franklin, Wittenberg, Roon, Providence

Providence College in Rhode Island is well known for basketball and is a top ranked Regional University with a highly respectable retention rate.

I have never heard of "Roon" (could it be Rowan ?).

Franklin in Indiana and Wittenberg University in Ohio both show poor retention rates. Both lose about 25% or a bit more of each freshman class.

What does the student want to study ? Any career goals ? If coaching/exercise science or similar, then playing a sport in college is understandable as a priority.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is ABSOLUTELY none of your business. But sure insert your opinions. I’m sure that will do wonders for the family relationship. Butt the F out.

Let me add that your idea of "no-name" means nothing. Perhaps you haven't heard of Colby? Bates? Swarthmore?

Those you rattled off are not no-name, obviously. I am referring to truly obscure regional liberal arts colleges. Colleges that may not exist in 10 years.

Please name a few of the schools. Serious question as some no-name small schools are interesting & worthwhile for various reasons.

Franklin, Wittenberg, Roon, Providence

Providence College in Rhode Island is well known for basketball and is a top ranked Regional University with a highly respectable retention rate.

I have never heard of "Roon" (could it be Rowan ?).

Franklin in Indiana and Wittenberg University in Ohio both show poor retention rates. Both lose about 25% or a bit more of each freshman class.

What does the student want to study ? Any career goals ? If coaching/exercise science or similar, then playing a sport in college is understandable as a priority.

If she means Rowan, OP really is clueless. Rowan is a public university with 15k undergrads that includes a medical school.

[Anonymous]

With each post, OP is just demonstrating she should not be giving college advice to anyone. Hopefully the family ignores her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So my niece can continue to play her sport in college. The issue is two-fold. Her daughter is simply good not great at her sport (which her parents refuse to accept) and the family is only middle class. They have no college savings, so debt will fuel this. Is it sports obsessed parents’ egos that refuse to let it go? They can’t admit ten years of sports efforts simply conclude in 12th grade?

Is there any way to convince them they’re about to make a terrible financial decision? The family is going to end up with a lot of debt, their daughter will likely quit the sport once she can do what she wants, and likely, the daughter hates the no-name private college where she knows nobody. Isn’t that how this usually plays out?

NOT YOUR MONKEY, NOT YOUR CIRCUS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is ABSOLUTELY none of your business. But sure insert your opinions. I’m sure that will do wonders for the family relationship. Butt the F out.

Let me add that your idea of "no-name" means nothing. Perhaps you haven't heard of Colby? Bates? Swarthmore?

Those you rattled off are not no-name, obviously. I am referring to truly obscure regional liberal arts colleges. Colleges that may not exist in 10 years.

Please name a few of the schools. Serious question as some no-name small schools are interesting & worthwhile for various reasons.

Franklin, Wittenberg, Roon, Providence

Laughing hysterically at Providence being a no-name school.

I'm a west-coaster but have been on the east coast for 20+ years. Never heard of any of these colleges.

I have only heard of Providence. Have not heard of Wittenberg, Roon or Franklin.

[Anonymous]

I’m in California and have known about Providence for years. Not the others.

[Anonymous]

Listen, bi--ches- We are going through this now.

My kid is good enough to play D1 (but has a very small D1 net as looking for high academic fit). Kid is considering all options. The "no name" schools . . . aren't? There are lots of options for kids to play D2 or D3. And lots of those schools give scholarships/merit (not athletic). And newsflash, unless your the Bronny James of your sport, you're likely not getting a "full ride" even at D1. You're just not.

As for the selectiveness of the school, yes, the high academic made a VERY small allowance for grades/stats below the non-athlete. But, it's negligible. And frankly, if you want the merit, you have to be better than the non-athlete/average admit to get it.

Like it or not, athletes bring something to the table. They draw crowds (money) and contribute to school spirit. They are also, in many not all cases, high performing in many aspects of their lives. I know mine is: Grades. Sports. Community Svc. Other extracurriculars. Profs and Admins love them for a reason. This is not the same as "legacy" admits. These kids work hard and earn their spots.

Still don't like it? I. Don't. Care. Neither will my kid when said kid is doing well in the sport in a selective college. Peace out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Listen, bi--ches- We are going through this now.

My kid is good enough to play D1 (but has a very small D1 net as looking for high academic fit). Kid is considering all options. The "no name" schools . . . aren't? There are lots of options for kids to play D2 or D3. And lots of those schools give scholarships/merit (not athletic). And newsflash, unless your the Bronny James of your sport, you're likely not getting a "full ride" even at D1. You're just not.

As for the selectiveness of the school, yes, the high academic made a VERY small allowance for grades/stats below the non-athlete. But, it's negligible. And frankly, if you want the merit, you have to be better than the non-athlete/average admit to get it.

Like it or not, athletes bring something to the table. They draw crowds (money) and contribute to school spirit. They are also, in many not all cases, high performing in many aspects of their lives. I know mine is: Grades. Sports. Community Svc. Other extracurriculars. Profs and Admins love them for a reason. This is not the same as "legacy" admits. These kids work hard and earn their spots.

Still don't like it? I. Don't. Care. Neither will my kid when said kid is doing well in the sport in a selective college. Peace out.

Y’all PP is the expert because she thinks her kid shits gold! She’s gonna tell us like it is!

[Anonymous]

Where is Roon located?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow! This thread has really triggered all those parents who have spent tens of thousands of dollars. Not to mention countless hours, and sacrificed time that could have been spent on their other kids or hobbies, just so they could travel to Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Upper Marlborough all those weekends and stay at $65/night motels for the sake of all of those travel teams for their ‘elite’ sons and daughters. OP, I applaud you.

This actually sounds like OP, who is either a troll or someone with far too much time on their hands. Either way, stop concerning yourself with other people’s family issues, OP. Just because you’re related to the parents doesn’t make this any of your business, unless you’re paying for their education. Even then…ugh!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is ABSOLUTELY none of your business. But sure insert your opinions. I’m sure that will do wonders for the family relationship. Butt the F out.

Well said.

[Anonymous]

"Not to mention countless hours, and sacrificed time that could have been spent on their other kids or hobbies, just so they could travel to Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Upper Marlborough all those weekends and stay at $65/night motels for the sake of all of those travel teams for their ‘elite’ sons and daughters. OP, I applaud you."

After 10 years of travel hockey, I wish we could find $65/night hotels!

It was a lot of money, but my kid got a lot out of it (as did we, in my opinion).