professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

[Anonymous]

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Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

You sound like an idiot, indoctrinated in right wing garbage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

You sound like an idiot, indoctrinated in right wing garbage.

It's similar to the extremists at Stanford Law School who only want to hear what they believe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UF has really been rising in the rankings and just behind Uva. for public universities, so I think this is all B.S. And who cares anyway if the woke profs get driven out? That's a good thing. Maybe we can get back to actual education.

It’s not just driving out woke profs. It’s making people even in pre med and social science fields worried about accepting jobs there. It’s hard to completely avoid potentially controversial topics in most fields, and it’s not fun to worry about saying the “wrong” thing or giving the “wrong” type of assignment. Academic freedom has always been a really important part of the job. Why risk it if you’re a strong candidate with other options elsewhere?

This. I know of one applied math prof who is looking for other opportunities because he is scared about whether his assignments could be “woke” (ML techniques but some might think the finding of racial patterning is “woke”). You are crazy if you think it doesn’t affect all professors. Academic freedom is what makes the system work.

Funny how conservative professors aren’t allowed academic freedom at woke universities, hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

In which institution exactly are you allowed conservative academic freedom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

In which institution exactly are you allowed conservative academic freedom?

Zip. No surprise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

In which institution exactly are you allowed conservative academic freedom?

DP I had conservative professors at Penn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

In which institution exactly are you allowed conservative academic freedom?

John McWhorter is anti-woke and he teaches at Columbia.

Ken Starr taught at Pepperdine University and then became president of Baylor University

Condoleeza Rice is director of the Hoover Institution at Standford

Harvey Mansfield taught at Harvard

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

In which institution exactly are you allowed conservative academic freedom?

Zip. No surprise.

A college in Maryland.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

Where, PP, are you allowed conservative academic freedom today?

[Anonymous]

I wonder why U Florida is doing so well in the rankings then? Someone must want to teach there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

Where, PP, are you allowed conservative academic freedom today?

There are traditional conservative professors everywhere, just not fascists or racists or delusional demagogues.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's fine if people who are politically progressive leave Florida. People shouldn't have to be uncomfortable with the policies of their state when there are other states that may be a match. Florida is the top destination for transplants, so presumably these people will be replaced with new folks who are happier with Florida's policies. I think this political segregation is a good thing, and is not a problem. Live and let live.

People shouldn’t have to be driven out of their home state.

Ok well, you're responding to a person who moved to a red state from a blue state a year ago. The world doesn't owe me a state where everyone else agrees with me. I'm responsible for my own life and my own satisfaction, as are the liberal profs that don't want to live in Florida. See how that works? Neither conservatives nor liberals are entitled to having their policies enacted. That is how democracy works.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Woke professors teach WHAT to think.
Intelligent professors teach HOW to think.

Florida does not need schools or colleges to indoctrinate its students with radical garbage. We have enough of that across America right now. What exactly is their end game?

Conservative professor here. Actually, there is plenty of indoctrination and telling people what to think on both sides. I would not want to teach in Florida, either.

Where, PP, are you allowed conservative academic freedom today?

There are traditional conservative professors everywhere, just not fascists or racists or delusional demagogues.

Like where exactly, and which department? Crickets, no doubt. We got it.

NP. I'll respond. Off the top of my head, in the DC area where DCUM is based, there is George Mason University, where the law school and economics department lean right/libertarian and where the Koch Brothers-funded Mercatus Institute is based. (You can read more about Koch funding at GMU [and other universities] and the involvement of the Federalist Society in funding and hiring decisions here: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/05/us/koch-donors-george-mason.html). In addition, "GMU has a “green” rating from FIRE, the academic free-speech watchdog group, which means that “all members of the George Mason University community enjoy the right to freedom of speech and expression.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder why U Florida is doing so well in the rankings then? Someone must want to teach there.

well, that's "today". Desantis' anti-education policy only just started. This will impact FL universities ability to attract talented professors for years to come, unless the people of FL vote in non-extremist governor who will allow academic institutions freedom to do what it does best, and for the governor to stay out of it.