Dmv muslims, what do you think about what’s going on in Hamtramck

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Muslims are actually a pro LBGTQ etc religion.

Back when formed there were issues with older men basically forcing themselves on young boys. So basically being a pedophile is prohibited.

You can be in a loving consensual gay relationship and be a good Muslim

It’s not a pro LGBT religion but it is pro choice

Pro choice for what? Abortion? (1) Islam is not a monolith (2) research the different school’s of thoughts stance on abortion. You will see that the most liberal interpretations allow for an abortion to take place at 40 days but not after, unless the life of the mother is at stake. I suggest you stop making random statements that you have no knowledge about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

- first in the United States to elect a Muslim-majority city council.
They viewed the power shift and diversity as a symbolic but meaningful rebuke of the Islamophobic rhetoric that was a central theme of then Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s campaign.

- same council voted to ban pride flags on city property

- Muslims said to be proud of being in a “fa9 less city”

- historical polish community feels backstabbed

“ There’s a sense of betrayal,” said the former Hamtramck mayor Karen Majewski, who is Polish American. “We supported you when you were threatened, and now our rights are threatened, and you’re the one doing the threatening.”

— Muslim city council passéd law allowing “backyard animal sacrifice”

*do dmv Muslims do this?

- white, Christian-majority city council in 2005 created an ordinance to allow the Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast from the city’s mosques five times daily. It did so over objections of white city residents, and Majewski said she didn’t see the same reciprocity with roles reversed.

I know lots of muslims, some would support and others would oppose, just like people of any other religion. All people don't act in unison just because they were born or raised in same religion.

Don’t be willfully ignorant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Op, what exactly is “backyard animal sacrifice”? Killing your dog and roasting it?

I live in a Muslim country for my job. They routinely sacrifice animals for the Eid holidays; there are two Eid holidays per year. At least one of the Eid sacrifices has to do with God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac. I don't know if the second, summer Eid celebrates the same thing, but they do also sacrifice animals. Coincidentally, Eid begins on June 27, so we've been talking about this in our house.

I teach at an international school and we have a lot of kids from the host country and surrounding Muslim countries in addition to the Western expats. I had to ask my students never to talk to me about their Eid animals and how they are treated and killed because it upsets me so much. What happens is that a family will go buy a lamb or sheep or goat or camel, treat it what they think is well for a few weeks, and then kill it with the family watching. On the one hand, some Muslims here have told me the animals' deaths are "painless", but on the other hand I've heard a lot of kids (who don't understand yet how this is interpreted by non-Muslims) talking about what it actually looked like and how the animal was actually handled. I find it sickening and won't describe it here.

In wealthier areas of the Middle East, this takes place among families and is largely not visible to non-Muslims. You won't see anything to do with it as an expat in Dubai, for example, though it is happening behind the scenes. In nearby places in the region that are poorer and don't have or cater to a Western expat community, like Karachi, where I've also spent time, one sees heads and piles of innards rotting in the streets around this time (I have photos I took of this, but don't know how to post them and it probably isn't appropriate here, but it is gruesome).

I had no idea this was allowed in the US. I'm kind of appalled it happens there. I do see a culture of callousness and what we would call casual cruelty and disregard of animal welfare in general (not just the Eid sacrifices, but even the way street cats and pets are treated here), and I do think it is related. I do not think it is a good thing to expose children to violent, bloody killing of an animal during a fun celebration.

They expose their kids on purpose, making them steely for their God

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, what exactly is “backyard animal sacrifice”? Killing your dog and roasting it?

I live in a Muslim country for my job. They routinely sacrifice animals for the Eid holidays; there are two Eid holidays per year. At least one of the Eid sacrifices has to do with God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac. I don't know if the second, summer Eid celebrates the same thing, but they do also sacrifice animals. Coincidentally, Eid begins on June 27, so we've been talking about this in our house.

I teach at an international school and we have a lot of kids from the host country and surrounding Muslim countries in addition to the Western expats. I had to ask my students never to talk to me about their Eid animals and how they are treated and killed because it upsets me so much. What happens is that a family will go buy a lamb or sheep or goat or camel, treat it what they think is well for a few weeks, and then kill it with the family watching. On the one hand, some Muslims here have told me the animals' deaths are "painless", but on the other hand I've heard a lot of kids (who don't understand yet how this is interpreted by non-Muslims) talking about what it actually looked like and how the animal was actually handled. I find it sickening and won't describe it here.

In wealthier areas of the Middle East, this takes place among families and is largely not visible to non-Muslims. You won't see anything to do with it as an expat in Dubai, for example, though it is happening behind the scenes. In nearby places in the region that are poorer and don't have or cater to a Western expat community, like Karachi, where I've also spent time, one sees heads and piles of innards rotting in the streets around this time (I have photos I took of this, but don't know how to post them and it probably isn't appropriate here, but it is gruesome).

I had no idea this was allowed in the US. I'm kind of appalled it happens there. I do see a culture of callousness and what we would call casual cruelty and disregard of animal welfare in general (not just the Eid sacrifices, but even the way street cats and pets are treated here), and I do think it is related. I do not think it is a good thing to expose children to violent, bloody killing of an animal during a fun celebration.

They expose their kids on purpose, making them steely for their God

And more bigotry

[Anonymous]

I mean, Americans watch people beating each other up on TV. How is that better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I mean, Americans watch people beating each other up on TV. How is that better?

I'm Jewish for the record.

Also, how do you think your ancestors got meat? They raised animals and killed them. It's not nice but it's true

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are 100 million lbgtq Muslims. Just base of fact one billion Muslims and 10 percent of humans fall into that category.

That’s great. Wonderful. What does this have to do with Islam being a pro lgbtqia+ religion?

There is a 100 million gay Muslims. That’s a lot of pro queer Muslims

Why do you assume that gay muslims are all pro-queer?

[Anonymous]

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/23/hamtramck-mayor-amer-ghalib-endorses-donald-trump-president/75345853007/

Let’s all laugh at hamtramck

Michigan Muslims - maybe Trump was right - they aren’t sending their brightest!

[Anonymous]

This seems like a shock. Or did I miss something?

[Anonymous]

so much hate against Muslims here. When are we going to stop projecting? We have large-scale anti gay sentiment, misogyny, and animal abuse at home. We have a puppy killer serving as homeland security chief!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, Americans watch people beating each other up on TV. How is that better?

I'm Jewish for the record.

Also, how do you think your ancestors got meat? They raised animals and killed them. It's not nice but it's true

Right and how is it worse than factory farming here today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, Americans watch people beating each other up on TV. How is that better?

I'm Jewish for the record.

Also, how do you think your ancestors got meat? They raised animals and killed them. It's not nice but it's true

Right and how is it worse than factory farming here today?

How is it worse than small farm farming. Just ask kristi noem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, what exactly is “backyard animal sacrifice”? Killing your dog and roasting it?

I live in a Muslim country for my job. They routinely sacrifice animals for the Eid holidays; there are two Eid holidays per year. At least one of the Eid sacrifices has to do with God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac. I don't know if the second, summer Eid celebrates the same thing, but they do also sacrifice animals. Coincidentally, Eid begins on June 27, so we've been talking about this in our house.

I teach at an international school and we have a lot of kids from the host country and surrounding Muslim countries in addition to the Western expats. I had to ask my students never to talk to me about their Eid animals and how they are treated and killed because it upsets me so much. What happens is that a family will go buy a lamb or sheep or goat or camel, treat it what they think is well for a few weeks, and then kill it with the family watching. On the one hand, some Muslims here have told me the animals' deaths are "painless", but on the other hand I've heard a lot of kids (who don't understand yet how this is interpreted by non-Muslims) talking about what it actually looked like and how the animal was actually handled. I find it sickening and won't describe it here.

In wealthier areas of the Middle East, this takes place among families and is largely not visible to non-Muslims. You won't see anything to do with it as an expat in Dubai, for example, though it is happening behind the scenes. In nearby places in the region that are poorer and don't have or cater to a Western expat community, like Karachi, where I've also spent time, one sees heads and piles of innards rotting in the streets around this time (I have photos I took of this, but don't know how to post them and it probably isn't appropriate here, but it is gruesome).

I had no idea this was allowed in the US. I'm kind of appalled it happens there. I do see a culture of callousness and what we would call casual cruelty and disregard of animal welfare in general (not just the Eid sacrifices, but even the way street cats and pets are treated here), and I do think it is related. I do not think it is a good thing to expose children to violent, bloody killing of an animal during a fun celebration.

You sound dumb. Are you actually a teacher? We Americans also ritually sacrifice millions of animals (turkeys) for thanksgiving. And we are hypocritical as we prefer that someone else, mostly illegal immigrants working in slaughter houses, do the dirty work for us. Have you read about how turkeys are raised and slaughtered? It is horrific and unnecessarily cruel. I feel terrible about eating turkey for Thanksgiving but unfortunately I still eat it. Christmas is no different

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean, Americans watch people beating each other up on TV. How is that better?

I'm Jewish for the record.

Also, how do you think your ancestors got meat? They raised animals and killed them. It's not nice but it's true

Right and how is it worse than factory farming here today?

Factory farming is way worse than halal farming. At least Islam (and I believe Judaism as well) stipulates you can’t kill the animal in front of other animals and the animal can’t be hunted (killed by gun) or stunned by gun/shocked or force fed. It has to be through knife in one swipe in the neck (instant death without pain). The knife has to be sharp:sharpened prior too so the animal is dead before it can process/ realize the pain and you must let the animal bleed out (not keep the blood?). Dull knives actually are more painful and need more swipes. The US does it via assembly line for chicken so each chick watches as the inevitable slicer kills them a there’s ton of force feeding and hormonal injections. I am hoping our government tries to fix the horrible way we treat animals especially chickens

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Op, what exactly is “backyard animal sacrifice”? Killing your dog and roasting it?

I live in a Muslim country for my job. They routinely sacrifice animals for the Eid holidays; there are two Eid holidays per year. At least one of the Eid sacrifices has to do with God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac. I don't know if the second, summer Eid celebrates the same thing, but they do also sacrifice animals. Coincidentally, Eid begins on June 27, so we've been talking about this in our house.

I teach at an international school and we have a lot of kids from the host country and surrounding Muslim countries in addition to the Western expats. I had to ask my students never to talk to me about their Eid animals and how they are treated and killed because it upsets me so much. What happens is that a family will go buy a lamb or sheep or goat or camel, treat it what they think is well for a few weeks, and then kill it with the family watching. On the one hand, some Muslims here have told me the animals' deaths are "painless", but on the other hand I've heard a lot of kids (who don't understand yet how this is interpreted by non-Muslims) talking about what it actually looked like and how the animal was actually handled. I find it sickening and won't describe it here.

In wealthier areas of the Middle East, this takes place among families and is largely not visible to non-Muslims. You won't see anything to do with it as an expat in Dubai, for example, though it is happening behind the scenes. In nearby places in the region that are poorer and don't have or cater to a Western expat community, like Karachi, where I've also spent time, one sees heads and piles of innards rotting in the streets around this time (I have photos I took of this, but don't know how to post them and it probably isn't appropriate here, but it is gruesome).

I had no idea this was allowed in the US. I'm kind of appalled it happens there. I do see a culture of callousness and what we would call casual cruelty and disregard of animal welfare in general (not just the Eid sacrifices, but even the way street cats and pets are treated here), and I do think it is related. I do not think it is a good thing to expose children to violent, bloody killing of an animal during a fun celebration.

You sound dumb. Are you actually a teacher? We Americans also ritually sacrifice millions of animals (turkeys) for thanksgiving. And we are hypocritical as we prefer that someone else, mostly illegal immigrants working in slaughter houses, do the dirty work for us. Have you read about how turkeys are raised and slaughtered? It is horrific and unnecessarily cruel. I feel terrible about eating turkey for Thanksgiving but unfortunately I still eat it. Christmas is no different

You sound immature. Do your parents know that you're posting here?