Dmv muslims, what do you think about what’s going on in Hamtramck
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Anonymous
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned
- first in the United States to elect a Muslim-majority city council. They viewed the power shift and diversity as a symbolic but meaningful rebuke of the Islamophobic rhetoric that was a central theme of then Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s campaign. - same council voted to ban pride flags on city property - Muslims said to be proud of being in a “fa9 less city” - historical polish community feels backstabbed “ There’s a sense of betrayal,” said the former Hamtramck mayor Karen Majewski, who is Polish American. “We supported you when you were threatened, and now our rights are threatened, and you’re the one doing the threatening.” — Muslim city council passéd law allowing “backyard animal sacrifice” *do dmv Muslims do this? - white, Christian-majority city council in 2005 created an ordinance to allow the Muslim call to prayer to be broadcast from the city’s mosques five times daily. It did so over objections of white city residents, and Majewski said she didn’t see the same reciprocity with roles reversed. |
Anonymous
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No to animal sacrifice in backyards
No to banning pride flags --Muslim |
Anonymous
sadly the courts have ruled it's unlawful to prohibit it. Freedom of religion. |
Anonymous
^ actually the court case involved a public park - so I assume it would be even more allowed in one's own backyard. |
Anonymous
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There's a huge difference between the government deciding or preventing others' speech (unconstitutional) and the government choosing its own speech (necessary). This is a case of the latter.
The government isn't guilty of banning the LGBTQ flag for choosing to not fly it on government property any more than they're guilty of banning the BLM flag and the Thin Blue Line flag and the Three Percenters flag and every other possible flag for choosing not to fly any of them on city property. |
Anonymous
I know lots of muslims, some would support and others would oppose, just like people of any other religion. All people don't act in unison just because they were born or raised in same religion. |
Anonymous
| The Hamtown liberals went out of their way to accommodate the Muslim minority in the early 2000s over the prayers on the loudspeaker. Just a matter of time before. St. Florian’s becomes a mosque. |
Anonymous
| Do you really think tbis is a coincidence? The Republican Party is making a play for the Muslim vote in MI and VA. |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
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Hamtramck is now majority Muslim and related middle eastern / south/west Asian cultures.
They are going to run the city in a way that accomodates the local majority culture. Same has how Bethesda accommodates car drivers. If that offends you, bring it up at the next powwow with the original native residents. |
Anonymous
Their laws have to be constitutional. No one is going to run a city just in cultural laws. |
Anonymous
| Op, what exactly is “backyard animal sacrifice”? Killing your dog and roasting it? |
Anonymous
| The animal sacrifice doesn’t bother me, the rest sucks |
Anonymous
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qurban_(Islamic_ritual_sacrifice) |
Anonymous
I live in a Muslim country for my job. They routinely sacrifice animals for the Eid holidays; there are two Eid holidays per year. At least one of the Eid sacrifices has to do with God asking Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac. I don't know if the second, summer Eid celebrates the same thing, but they do also sacrifice animals. Coincidentally, Eid begins on June 27, so we've been talking about this in our house. I teach at an international school and we have a lot of kids from the host country and surrounding Muslim countries in addition to the Western expats. I had to ask my students never to talk to me about their Eid animals and how they are treated and killed because it upsets me so much. What happens is that a family will go buy a lamb or sheep or goat or camel, treat it what they think is well for a few weeks, and then kill it with the family watching. On the one hand, some Muslims here have told me the animals' deaths are "painless", but on the other hand I've heard a lot of kids (who don't understand yet how this is interpreted by non-Muslims) talking about what it actually looked like and how the animal was actually handled. I find it sickening and won't describe it here. In wealthier areas of the Middle East, this takes place among families and is largely not visible to non-Muslims. You won't see anything to do with it as an expat in Dubai, for example, though it is happening behind the scenes. In nearby places in the region that are poorer and don't have or cater to a Western expat community, like Karachi, where I've also spent time, one sees heads and piles of innards rotting in the streets around this time (I have photos I took of this, but don't know how to post them and it probably isn't appropriate here, but it is gruesome). I had no idea this was allowed in the US. I'm kind of appalled it happens there. I do see a culture of callousness and what we would call casual cruelty and disregard of animal welfare in general (not just the Eid sacrifices, but even the way street cats and pets are treated here), and I do think it is related. I do not think it is a good thing to expose children to violent, bloody killing of an animal during a fun celebration. |