“It’s hard to find masculine men who aren’t conservatives”

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Anonymous wrote:Disagree, my boyfriend is super liberal and is very masculine. I don't remember the last time he let me pay for anything (I have to fight him for the check) and he builds his own furniture.

Lucky! Is he romantic and emotionally available too?

[Anonymous]

My DH is definitely what most would describe as masculine and is in no way, shape or form conservative in any sense.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the ‘20s. Get used to it. It’s generational. Even “conservative” younger millennials, and generation Z are masculine-resistant.

With older millennials and generation X, the masculinity they had is being sucked away from them. Perhaps this is a good thing if it’s specifically targeted at the toxic elements.

Women Zoomers love masculine men because they’re so rare in their circles.

Yup. 100%

This is why I, a man in his 50s, is doing so well with young women.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s the ‘20s. Get used to it. It’s generational. Even “conservative” younger millennials, and generation Z are masculine-resistant.

With older millennials and generation X, the masculinity they had is being sucked away from them. Perhaps this is a good thing if it’s specifically targeted at the toxic elements.

Women Zoomers love masculine men because they’re so rare in their circles.

Yup. 100%

This is why I, a man in his 50s, is doing so well with young women.

Why are you posting here? So you can brag about all the younger p***y you’re grabbing? You’re presumably divorced, or maybe cheating on your wife. This is not the place for you. You’re a F’ing creep.

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This is kind of a shrug to me. Not a useful discussion. It equates "masculinity" with specific actions that are not especially important. Who pays for the first date just isn't that big a thing. I very briefly dated a guy who paid for EVERYthing to the point it quickly felt condescending and show-offy, and he wasn't my idea of masculine at all. The most masculine man I know now is also extremely liberal politically and personally. But I don't define "masculine" in terms of "pays for things, holds the door for the woman (only?), 'providing for' the woman."

Exactly this. Paying for dates or going to work while I stay home is not masculinity. To me, masculinity means that I feel safe physically and emotionally in a man's presence. That he would stand up for me and protect me if I was being mistreated. In a partnership especially, it's the ability to have insight into my needs and the confidence to take care of them.

I can't say conservative men typically meet this bar.

This makes zero sense.

“Feel safe physically and emotionally in a man’s presence”. Well DUH.

Ok, why would you stay in a relationship if he didn’t give you that?

“Stand up for you if you were being mistreated”

WTAF?

He would be the one doing the mistreatment in the relationship!!!!!


Seriously, I think this post was written by an AI bot, not a real woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The internalized misogyny in desiring “masculine” men is depressing.

+100

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Anonymous wrote:You all are crazy. I'm built like The Rock and blow my nose with sandpaper. But I vote Democrat. If anyone thinks I'm not masculine, go ahead, let's meet truck to truck and see who wins.

Sure cuck sure.

Oh, sweetie. “Cuck?” You’re a self-proclaimed “alpha male,” then, and real alpha males don’t use teenaged incel terms like “cuck.” Try again.

Actually, masculine heterosexual men also don’t use the term “oh, sweetie” when talking to another man…so….yeah.

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Anonymous wrote:These articles are always just about white guys. I've never run into this problem dating in the black community.

That’s because it’s more acceptable in the progressive sphere to have illiberal views as a minority but not as a white guy. Exhibiting tribal behavior where you put your own ethnic group before others is considered masculine behavior but is also something that will immediately get a white guy labeled as a conservative, or worse a white nationalist, but if a minority is unapologetically pro-whatever group-they-belong-to it’s okay. So white guys who want to be accepted by the left have to go out of their way to appear as unthreatening and ashamed of their ethnicity as possible, which makes them look like p***ies.

Minorities can easily get away with illiberal views like not being accepting of gays, or against feminism, but morons think they’re liberal because they vote democrat (which they mainly do to advance their own racial interests, not because they are accepting of LGBT, etc)

white men look like p***ies because they ARE p***ies. It’s not anymore complex than that. 90% of white men are totally undatable. The 10% who ARE appealing as a men are literally Proud Boys members. It’s a ridiculous dichotomy that the only white men I’m ever attracted to are the type of men I’d never date because of their politics.

#WhenProudBoysTryToSeemLikeWomenOnline

No shit. Flabby white dudes with dorky facial hair and wrap around sunglasses.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These articles are always just about white guys. I've never run into this problem dating in the black community.

That’s because it’s more acceptable in the progressive sphere to have illiberal views as a minority but not as a white guy. Exhibiting tribal behavior where you put your own ethnic group before others is considered masculine behavior but is also something that will immediately get a white guy labeled as a conservative, or worse a white nationalist, but if a minority is unapologetically pro-whatever group-they-belong-to it’s okay. So white guys who want to be accepted by the left have to go out of their way to appear as unthreatening and ashamed of their ethnicity as possible, which makes them look like p***ies.

Minorities can easily get away with illiberal views like not being accepting of gays, or against feminism, but morons think they’re liberal because they vote democrat (which they mainly do to advance their own racial interests, not because they are accepting of LGBT, etc)

white men look like p***ies because they ARE p***ies. It’s not anymore complex than that. 90% of white men are totally undatable. The 10% who ARE appealing as a men are literally Proud Boys members. It’s a ridiculous dichotomy that the only white men I’m ever attracted to are the type of men I’d never date because of their politics.

It's cool that this board is so tolerant of casual racism.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The internalized misogyny in desiring “masculine” men is depressing.

+100

Maybe in some cases, but not necessarily. Heterosexual women are presumably interested in dating men/males, not women/females. Internalized misogyny would be if these people were saying that male masculinity is somehow better than female femininity. Having a preference doesn't mean that they hate people who don't fit in that bucket.