“It’s hard to find masculine men who aren’t conservatives”

Anonymous
https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/liberal-woman-complains-hard-find-masculine-men-arent-conservative

Interesting article

“As a liberal woman, it is really hard to find a man who's willing to play the more traditional masculine role in the relationship in today's day and age who is not a conservative," she admits. She attributes certain characteristics to a traditional, masculine man: paying for the first date, opening the door for the woman, caring for and providing for the woman.

Obviously as a liberal woman, I do want to be respected for my independence and I do want to have my own autonomy in the relationship and not be conformed to the traditional female homemaker, childbearing role," she continues. "And most of the men that I dated who do have that more natural provider masculinity about them are normally conservative."

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Anonymous
Disagree, my boyfriend is super liberal and is very masculine. I don't remember the last time he let me pay for anything (I have to fight him for the check) and he builds his own furniture.
Anonymous
These articles are always just about white guys. I've never run into this problem dating in the black community.
Anonymous
Lol masculine men don’t want to be with liberal women.
Anonymous
I have had no such problem with latinos born outside of USA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:These articles are always just about white guys. I've never run into this problem dating in the black community.


Hmm. Do you mean a guy who would publicly say “trans women are women and men can give birth and nurse babies”? Like that tier of liberal?
Anonymous
Well when you spend a lifetime vilifying men being men, boys being boys, let's just say you get what you get and don't get upset. Serves you and your kind right. lol.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have had no such problem with latinos born outside of USA.


Same question to you. What do you mean by liberal?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have had no such problem with latinos born outside of USA.


Marriage does give them citizenship, eventually. There's that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Lol masculine men don’t want to be with liberal women.


It’s not masculine to be btchy dear.
Anonymous

This is kind of a shrug to me. Not a useful discussion. It equates "masculinity" with specific actions that are not especially important. Who pays for the first date just isn't that big a thing. I very briefly dated a guy who paid for EVERYthing to the point it quickly felt condescending and show-offy, and he wasn't my idea of masculine at all. The most masculine man I know now is also extremely liberal politically and personally. But I don't define "masculine" in terms of "pays for things, holds the door for the woman (only?), 'providing for' the woman."
Anonymous
Those don't sound like the masculine traits I am looking for, so it's not applicable.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.eviemagazine.com/post/liberal-woman-complains-hard-find-masculine-men-arent-conservative

Interesting article

“As a liberal woman, it is really hard to find a man who's willing to play the more traditional masculine role in the relationship in today's day and age who is not a conservative," she admits. She attributes certain characteristics to a traditional, masculine man: paying for the first date, opening the door for the woman, caring for and providing for the woman.

Obviously as a liberal woman, I do want to be respected for my independence and I do want to have my own autonomy in the relationship and not be conformed to the traditional female homemaker, childbearing role," she continues. "And most of the men that I dated who do have that more natural provider masculinity about them are normally conservative."

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Pretty on brand for magazine that it calls itself the future of feminity or some shit like that.
Anonymous
Liberals woman honestly don’t know what they want. One one hand they want a traditional guy. On the other hand they come up with things like “toxic masculinity”. Which is it?

I should probably replace the word *progressive* above because they are the ones consistently trying to define/redefine society in a never ending loop.

Men raised in progressive circles, at least the ones under 30, that come accross I would say are quite interesting def not the typical male we probably saw 15 to 20 years ago.

In my opinion though with gender equality we should not expect men to be like the men’s of the past paying for first date, opening doors that stuff is dead. In fact women are likely going to be or at least equally be the ones paying for a first date, asking a guy out, proposing for marriage etc…
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