NVSL Seeding is out!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are in Division 14. I’m sure most are happy with it. We dropped a division and I think the concern was there was a slight chance we wouldn’t.

I prefer the lower divisions. The people tend to be nicer. The only exception we had to that was Woodley. We swam against them and they had parents cheating on the stopwatches and were really obnoxious. I have never encountered that at a meet.

Wow. When was this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are in Division 14. I’m sure most are happy with it. We dropped a division and I think the concern was there was a slight chance we wouldn’t.

I prefer the lower divisions. The people tend to be nicer. The only exception we had to that was Woodley. We swam against them and they had parents cheating on the stopwatches and were really obnoxious. I have never encountered that at a meet.

Wow. When was this?

Uh oh, looks like we are swimming Woodley this summer. I hope the bad behavior was a while ago…Did anyone report this to the division coordinator?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.

You have an interesting definition of recruiting if that “guest swimmer” from Maryland didn’t count.

As for how a good swimmer can be ushered in the Chesterbrook back door, those beans were spilled on Swim Ninja a few years ago.

Its an NVSL rule that all swim team members have to have a bona fide family pool membership. Are you claiming that chesterbrook is violating this rule? put up or shut up.

Ryan Mathis, a longtime competitor with a MD summer swim team, managed to swim for both that team in 2019:
https://www.thesentinel.com/communities/prince_george/sports/mathis-kingfish-set-new-records-in-2019-pmsl-divisional-meet/article_9b6816aa-9b44-5bb2-bc17-8eb3335bb97f.html
and help his friends from school break NVSL records at Chesterbrook:
https://www.mynvsl.com/file/31518/meet_results_2019_nvsl_all_star_relay_carnival_lp_17jul2019_pdf

Well..this pretty much answers forever the does Chesterbrook recruit swimmers question

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.

You have an interesting definition of recruiting if that “guest swimmer” from Maryland didn’t count.

As for how a good swimmer can be ushered in the Chesterbrook back door, those beans were spilled on Swim Ninja a few years ago.

Its an NVSL rule that all swim team members have to have a bona fide family pool membership. Are you claiming that chesterbrook is violating this rule? put up or shut up.

Ryan Mathis, a longtime competitor with a MD summer swim team, managed to swim for both that team in 2019:
https://www.thesentinel.com/communities/prince_george/sports/mathis-kingfish-set-new-records-in-2019-pmsl-divisional-meet/article_9b6816aa-9b44-5bb2-bc17-8eb3335bb97f.html
and help his friends from school break NVSL records at Chesterbrook:
https://www.mynvsl.com/file/31518/meet_results_2019_nvsl_all_star_relay_carnival_lp_17jul2019_pdf

That is pretty damning. Did they say he was a foreign exchange student (a loophole other teams have used).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are in Division 14. I’m sure most are happy with it. We dropped a division and I think the concern was there was a slight chance we wouldn’t.

I prefer the lower divisions. The people tend to be nicer. The only exception we had to that was Woodley. We swam against them and they had parents cheating on the stopwatches and were really obnoxious. I have never encountered that at a meet.

Wow. When was this?

Back in 2018 or 2019, it was a while ago. I think that is how they started winning. They moved up and lost a lot, so perhaps they stopped with the cheating.

[Anonymous]

McLean kids want Div 1 bragging rights. It’s the parents who don’t. Better to be #1 in a lower division than #6 in rhe higher one and losing every meet. The only advantage is that Div 1 pools are close to one another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are in Division 14. I’m sure most are happy with it. We dropped a division and I think the concern was there was a slight chance we wouldn’t.

I prefer the lower divisions. The people tend to be nicer. The only exception we had to that was Woodley. We swam against them and they had parents cheating on the stopwatches and were really obnoxious. I have never encountered that at a meet.

Wow. When was this?

Back in 2018 or 2019, it was a while ago. I think that is how they started winning. They moved up and lost a lot, so perhaps they stopped with the cheating.

Being the tribute in division 1 is demoralizing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.

You have an interesting definition of recruiting if that “guest swimmer” from Maryland didn’t count.

As for how a good swimmer can be ushered in the Chesterbrook back door, those beans were spilled on Swim Ninja a few years ago.

Its an NVSL rule that all swim team members have to have a bona fide family pool membership. Are you claiming that chesterbrook is violating this rule? put up or shut up.

Ryan Mathis, a longtime competitor with a MD summer swim team, managed to swim for both that team in 2019:
https://www.thesentinel.com/communities/prince_george/sports/mathis-kingfish-set-new-records-in-2019-pmsl-divisional-meet/article_9b6816aa-9b44-5bb2-bc17-8eb3335bb97f.html
and help his friends from school break NVSL records at Chesterbrook:
https://www.mynvsl.com/file/31518/meet_results_2019_nvsl_all_star_relay_carnival_lp_17jul2019_pdf

Well..this pretty much answers forever the does Chesterbrook recruit swimmers question

Yea, I don't think that you can talk your way out of this. Crazy to think that the coaches and rep allowed this. That is shameful behavior.

[Anonymous]

I can't believe I'm defending chesterbrook- but you have proved nothing. There is no restriction in NVSL rules for swimming for the NVSL and another league, indeed many kids do this to swim long course with their club teams and swim summer league. Sure its a little odd that he was swimming for 2 different rec leagues so far apart (its a long way from PG county to mclean)- but as long as his family had a bona fide membership at both clubs he's not breaking any rules. Perhaps the parents are split and he divided his time between mclean and PG county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I'm defending chesterbrook- but you have proved nothing. There is no restriction in NVSL rules for swimming for the NVSL and another league, indeed many kids do this to swim long course with their club teams and swim summer league. Sure its a little odd that he was swimming for 2 different rec leagues so far apart (its a long way from PG county to mclean)- but as long as his family had a bona fide membership at both clubs he's not breaking any rules. Perhaps the parents are split and he divided his time between mclean and PG county.

First - year round (club swim) and summer swim are two different things. And, no one ever said you can't do both.

This is about the fact he was swimming for 2 different summer leagues at once. You are correct, there is nothing in the rules that states you can't swim for more than one summer league. The only restriction NVSL places is you can't swim for 2 different teams that are a part of the NVSL league. The interesting thing is he ONLY swam for them in 2019. He never swam for them before or after. He has no other time records in the NVSL database. Why would he only swim with them for 1 year? Chesterbrook needed him and his times. Just because he wasn't technically breaking the rules, doesn't make it right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I'm defending chesterbrook- but you have proved nothing. There is no restriction in NVSL rules for swimming for the NVSL and another league, indeed many kids do this to swim long course with their club teams and swim summer league. Sure its a little odd that he was swimming for 2 different rec leagues so far apart (its a long way from PG county to mclean)- but as long as his family had a bona fide membership at both clubs he's not breaking any rules. Perhaps the parents are split and he divided his time between mclean and PG county.

First - year round (club swim) and summer swim are two different things. And, no one ever said you can't do both.

This is about the fact he was swimming for 2 different summer leagues at once. You are correct, there is nothing in the rules that states you can't swim for more than one summer league. The only restriction NVSL places is you can't swim for 2 different teams that are a part of the NVSL league. The interesting thing is he ONLY swam for them in 2019. He never swam for them before or after. He has no other time records in the NVSL database. Why would he only swim with them for 1 year? Chesterbrook needed him and his times. Just because he wasn't technically breaking the rules, doesn't make it right.

The obvious answer is that they brought in a ringer, but they don't recruit, so I'm sure there is some convoluted almost believable explanation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For the record, chesterbrook does not recruit.

You have an interesting definition of recruiting if that “guest swimmer” from Maryland didn’t count.

As for how a good swimmer can be ushered in the Chesterbrook back door, those beans were spilled on Swim Ninja a few years ago.

Its an NVSL rule that all swim team members have to have a bona fide family pool membership. Are you claiming that chesterbrook is violating this rule? put up or shut up.

Ryan Mathis, a longtime competitor with a MD summer swim team, managed to swim for both that team in 2019:
https://www.thesentinel.com/communities/prince_george/sports/mathis-kingfish-set-new-records-in-2019-pmsl-divisional-meet/article_9b6816aa-9b44-5bb2-bc17-8eb3335bb97f.html
and help his friends from school break NVSL records at Chesterbrook:
https://www.mynvsl.com/file/31518/meet_results_2019_nvsl_all_star_relay_carnival_lp_17jul2019_pdf

That is pretty damning. Did they say he was a foreign exchange student (a loophole other teams have used).

That is bizarre!
What school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I'm defending chesterbrook- but you have proved nothing. There is no restriction in NVSL rules for swimming for the NVSL and another league, indeed many kids do this to swim long course with their club teams and swim summer league. Sure its a little odd that he was swimming for 2 different rec leagues so far apart (its a long way from PG county to mclean)- but as long as his family had a bona fide membership at both clubs he's not breaking any rules. Perhaps the parents are split and he divided his time between mclean and PG county.

First - year round (club swim) and summer swim are two different things. And, no one ever said you can't do both.

This is about the fact he was swimming for 2 different summer leagues at once. You are correct, there is nothing in the rules that states you can't swim for more than one summer league. The only restriction NVSL places is you can't swim for 2 different teams that are a part of the NVSL league. The interesting thing is he ONLY swam for them in 2019. He never swam for them before or after. He has no other time records in the NVSL database. Why would he only swim with them for 1 year? Chesterbrook needed him and his times. Just because he wasn't technically breaking the rules, doesn't make it right.

NP, not a part of NVSL. This thread is wild but this particular anecdote takes the cake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I'm defending chesterbrook- but you have proved nothing. There is no restriction in NVSL rules for swimming for the NVSL and another league, indeed many kids do this to swim long course with their club teams and swim summer league. Sure its a little odd that he was swimming for 2 different rec leagues so far apart (its a long way from PG county to mclean)- but as long as his family had a bona fide membership at both clubs he's not breaking any rules. Perhaps the parents are split and he divided his time between mclean and PG county.

First - year round (club swim) and summer swim are two different things. And, no one ever said you can't do both.

This is about the fact he was swimming for 2 different summer leagues at once. You are correct, there is nothing in the rules that states you can't swim for more than one summer league. The only restriction NVSL places is you can't swim for 2 different teams that are a part of the NVSL league. The interesting thing is he ONLY swam for them in 2019. He never swam for them before or after. He has no other time records in the NVSL database. Why would he only swim with them for 1 year? Chesterbrook needed him and his times. Just because he wasn't technically breaking the rules, doesn't make it right.

It goes against the principles of rec league, you know community based fun swimming. Swimming for two rec leagues is BS when he did not have ongoing relationship with one of them.

Also, NVSL states that you have to have a family membership with the pool in order to swim there and most require you to live in the house.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe I'm defending chesterbrook- but you have proved nothing. There is no restriction in NVSL rules for swimming for the NVSL and another league, indeed many kids do this to swim long course with their club teams and swim summer league. Sure its a little odd that he was swimming for 2 different rec leagues so far apart (its a long way from PG county to mclean)- but as long as his family had a bona fide membership at both clubs he's not breaking any rules. Perhaps the parents are split and he divided his time between mclean and PG county.

First - year round (club swim) and summer swim are two different things. And, no one ever said you can't do both.

This is about the fact he was swimming for 2 different summer leagues at once. You are correct, there is nothing in the rules that states you can't swim for more than one summer league. The only restriction NVSL places is you can't swim for 2 different teams that are a part of the NVSL league. The interesting thing is he ONLY swam for them in 2019. He never swam for them before or after. He has no other time records in the NVSL database. Why would he only swim with them for 1 year? Chesterbrook needed him and his times. Just because he wasn't technically breaking the rules, doesn't make it right.

It goes against the principles of rec league, you know community based fun swimming. Swimming for two rec leagues is BS when he did not have ongoing relationship with one of them.

Also, NVSL states that you have to have a family membership with the pool in order to swim there and most require you to live in the house.

D1 is not really rec league