Wooten HS good/bad?

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Anonymous wrote:Stop looking at Great schools

Yes Wootton is one of the top schools in the county

It is very good. You will get a lot of complaints on this board. There are good and bad teachers at every HS.

My kids got accepted from Wootton, for example at

MIT, Stanford, GA Tech, Yale, Columbia, Michigan, University of Chicago, USC, UNC, DUKE, CMU and a few others

The computer science dept at Wootton is exceptional. The English Dept needs work. Math & Science are very good

This is what I would say. Education is something no one can take away from you and Wootton does it's job. My kids all went off to college and thought most of college courses were easy, they were extremely well prepared.

If you are looking at a home in Dufief I would be warry as boundries might change. And Crown farm could be the new HS that I would not be ok with.

Why?

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

PP here.. I agree with you. And there are many high achieving kids at RM who choose not to do IB because of the time commitment.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/rmhs/aboutus/

Above school link provides RM profile (including IB kids) and IB profile for SAT. The entire school (which includes IB kids) SAT was 1291. IB avg was 1500. If you take out IB kids from the school profile, my guess is no more than 1000 for the entire school not including IB kids. So delta of almost 500 pts between IB and regular kids. That sounds pretty significant.

So, to summarize, RMIB 1500, Wootton 1230, RM w/o magnet ~1000 give or take a few points.

1. Top tier programs - RMIB and Blair STEM at around 1500
2. PHS (whole school magnet but includes home school kids (i.e., ISP)) 1300
3. W schools, BCC in 1200s
4. All other remaining schools 1000-1100

This makes perfect sense to me.

yes, because SAT scores are usually correlated to SES. News at 11.

I know. nothing new. no one has said otherwise. stop playing whack a mole game

Then, what is the point of the SAT scores per HS as it relates to this thread?

This is MCPS thread where people ask, discuss, debate all aspects of MCPS schools. In that context, we are discussing how schools perform w/ SAT. More specifically Wootton vs non magnet portion of RM. I suggest you go back to OP’s question and start reading thru the entire thread.

The magnet portion of RM is orders of magnitude higher. Regular RM as a whole seems to perform similarly (maybe a little better) to Wootton.

Regular portion is performing about 200pts lower than Wootton per school links provided.

"regular" portion includes some kids in RMIB who also live in the RM cluster. I know a few of those kids who scored 1540+.

The figures don't care where kids are from or live. The distinction is IB vs non-IB regardless their home address.

That is my point. Some people are assuming that without the RMIB students, the SAT scores would be much much lower, but my point is that there are several RMIB students who live IN the cluster, so, that RMIB SAT score in the doc doesn't mean much. If you compare in cluster to in cluster students, you'd have to include the about 20 kids in RMIB who also live in the RM cluster.

Only MCPS could number crunch it. No one else has enough data to distinguish between RMIB in cluster and RMIB not in cluster.

Hi JW mom

There are 1300+ kids at JW, so yes, there are many JW moms.

LOL. But only one who does DCUM full time.

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

PP here.. I agree with you. And there are many high achieving kids at RM who choose not to do IB because of the time commitment.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/rmhs/aboutus/

Above school link provides RM profile (including IB kids) and IB profile for SAT. The entire school (which includes IB kids) SAT was 1291. IB avg was 1500. If you take out IB kids from the school profile, my guess is no more than 1000 for the entire school not including IB kids. So delta of almost 500 pts between IB and regular kids. That sounds pretty significant.

So, to summarize, RMIB 1500, Wootton 1230, RM w/o magnet ~1000 give or take a few points.

1. Top tier programs - RMIB and Blair STEM at around 1500
2. PHS (whole school magnet but includes home school kids (i.e., ISP)) 1300
3. W schools, BCC in 1200s
4. All other remaining schools 1000-1100

This makes perfect sense to me.

yes, because SAT scores are usually correlated to SES. News at 11.

I know. nothing new. no one has said otherwise. stop playing whack a mole game

Then, what is the point of the SAT scores per HS as it relates to this thread?

This is MCPS thread where people ask, discuss, debate all aspects of MCPS schools. In that context, we are discussing how schools perform w/ SAT. More specifically Wootton vs non magnet portion of RM. I suggest you go back to OP’s question and start reading thru the entire thread.

The magnet portion of RM is orders of magnitude higher. Regular RM as a whole seems to perform similarly (maybe a little better) to Wootton.

Regular portion is performing about 200pts lower than Wootton per school links provided.

"regular" portion includes some kids in RMIB who also live in the RM cluster. I know a few of those kids who scored 1540+.

The figures don't care where kids are from or live. The distinction is IB vs non-IB regardless their home address.

That is my point. Some people are assuming that without the RMIB students, the SAT scores would be much much lower, but my point is that there are several RMIB students who live IN the cluster, so, that RMIB SAT score in the doc doesn't mean much. If you compare in cluster to in cluster students, you'd have to include the about 20 kids in RMIB who also live in the RM cluster.

Only MCPS could number crunch it. No one else has enough data to distinguish between RMIB in cluster and RMIB not in cluster.

Well, when you look at it from IB vs non IB standpoint, the scores for non IB kids are indeed much lower. Maybe your point is if MCPS eliminates IB from RM, RM's SAT score would go up (since there is no IB). That I agree. How much? Not much. Simply not enough high performing kids to push the avg up that much.

It was already demonstrated earlier in this thread with hard data that this isn't true. The IB doesn't have a significant impact and looking at the scores by demographic cohort plain old RM does about the same as Wootton,

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

PP here.. I agree with you. And there are many high achieving kids at RM who choose not to do IB because of the time commitment.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/rmhs/aboutus/

Above school link provides RM profile (including IB kids) and IB profile for SAT. The entire school (which includes IB kids) SAT was 1291. IB avg was 1500. If you take out IB kids from the school profile, my guess is no more than 1000 for the entire school not including IB kids. So delta of almost 500 pts between IB and regular kids. That sounds pretty significant.

So, to summarize, RMIB 1500, Wootton 1230, RM w/o magnet ~1000 give or take a few points.

1. Top tier programs - RMIB and Blair STEM at around 1500
2. PHS (whole school magnet but includes home school kids (i.e., ISP)) 1300
3. W schools, BCC in 1200s
4. All other remaining schools 1000-1100

This makes perfect sense to me.

yes, because SAT scores are usually correlated to SES. News at 11.

I know. nothing new. no one has said otherwise. stop playing whack a mole game

Then, what is the point of the SAT scores per HS as it relates to this thread?

This is MCPS thread where people ask, discuss, debate all aspects of MCPS schools. In that context, we are discussing how schools perform w/ SAT. More specifically Wootton vs non magnet portion of RM. I suggest you go back to OP’s question and start reading thru the entire thread.

The magnet portion of RM is orders of magnitude higher. Regular RM as a whole seems to perform similarly (maybe a little better) to Wootton.

Regular portion is performing about 200pts lower than Wootton per school links provided.

"regular" portion includes some kids in RMIB who also live in the RM cluster. I know a few of those kids who scored 1540+.

The figures don't care where kids are from or live. The distinction is IB vs non-IB regardless their home address.

That is my point. Some people are assuming that without the RMIB students, the SAT scores would be much much lower, but my point is that there are several RMIB students who live IN the cluster, so, that RMIB SAT score in the doc doesn't mean much. If you compare in cluster to in cluster students, you'd have to include the about 20 kids in RMIB who also live in the RM cluster.

Only MCPS could number crunch it. No one else has enough data to distinguish between RMIB in cluster and RMIB not in cluster.

Well, when you look at it from IB vs non IB standpoint, the scores for non IB kids are indeed much lower. Maybe your point is if MCPS eliminates IB from RM, RM's SAT score would go up (since there is no IB). That I agree. How much? Not much. Simply not enough high performing kids to push the avg up that much.

It was already demonstrated earlier in this thread with hard data that this isn't true. The IB doesn't have a significant impact and looking at the scores by demographic cohort plain old RM does about the same as Wootton,

Where?

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

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So tell me how that proves the point you say it does. Please “crunch” the numbers and settle this stupid argument!!

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

PP here.. I agree with you. And there are many high achieving kids at RM who choose not to do IB because of the time commitment.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/schools/rmhs/aboutus/

Above school link provides RM profile (including IB kids) and IB profile for SAT. The entire school (which includes IB kids) SAT was 1291. IB avg was 1500. If you take out IB kids from the school profile, my guess is no more than 1000 for the entire school not including IB kids. So delta of almost 500 pts between IB and regular kids. That sounds pretty significant.

So, to summarize, RMIB 1500, Wootton 1230, RM w/o magnet ~1000 give or take a few points.

1. Top tier programs - RMIB and Blair STEM at around 1500
2. PHS (whole school magnet but includes home school kids (i.e., ISP)) 1300
3. W schools, BCC in 1200s
4. All other remaining schools 1000-1100

This makes perfect sense to me.

yes, because SAT scores are usually correlated to SES. News at 11.

I know. nothing new. no one has said otherwise. stop playing whack a mole game

Then, what is the point of the SAT scores per HS as it relates to this thread?

This is MCPS thread where people ask, discuss, debate all aspects of MCPS schools. In that context, we are discussing how schools perform w/ SAT. More specifically Wootton vs non magnet portion of RM. I suggest you go back to OP’s question and start reading thru the entire thread.

The magnet portion of RM is orders of magnitude higher. Regular RM as a whole seems to perform similarly (maybe a little better) to Wootton.

Regular portion is performing about 200pts lower than Wootton per school links provided.

"regular" portion includes some kids in RMIB who also live in the RM cluster. I know a few of those kids who scored 1540+.

The figures don't care where kids are from or live. The distinction is IB vs non-IB regardless their home address.

That is my point. Some people are assuming that without the RMIB students, the SAT scores would be much much lower, but my point is that there are several RMIB students who live IN the cluster, so, that RMIB SAT score in the doc doesn't mean much. If you compare in cluster to in cluster students, you'd have to include the about 20 kids in RMIB who also live in the RM cluster.

Only MCPS could number crunch it. No one else has enough data to distinguish between RMIB in cluster and RMIB not in cluster.

Hi JW mom

There are 1300+ kids at JW, so yes, there are many JW moms.

LOL. But only one who does DCUM full time.

And you know this how?

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

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That makes no sense. IB kids consider anything less than 1500 a failure or automatic retake. I don’t know any IB kid in 1200/1300 range. It just doesn’t happen. Other IB parents please chime in.

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

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That makes no sense. IB kids consider anything less than 1500 a failure or automatic retake. I don’t know any IB kid in 1200/1300 range. It just doesn’t happen. Other IB parents please chime in.

+1 I agree.

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

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Makes sense to me. The only demographic where the magnet would have much impact is on the overall average for Asians since it's 60%+ Asian.

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

I get it. The 5 white kids in the IB likely have little or no impact on the average for that demographic.

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

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That makes no sense. IB kids consider anything less than 1500 a failure or automatic retake. I don’t know any IB kid in 1200/1300 range. It just doesn’t happen. Other IB parents please chime in.

+1 I agree.

Less than 1500 might be considered a "failure" by RMIB students, but it does happen. 1200s? Now, I would be shocked if that happened. Not sure about 1300s.

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

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That makes no sense. IB kids consider anything less than 1500 a failure or automatic retake. I don’t know any IB kid in 1200/1300 range. It just doesn’t happen. Other IB parents please chime in.

+1 I agree.

Less than 1500 might be considered a "failure" by RMIB students, but it does happen. 1200s? Now, I would be shocked if that happened. Not sure about 1300s.

1200/1300 doesn’t happen w/ IB kids. It simply doesn’t. My kid - middle of pack in IB - retook 1540. Not saying that was smart but it’s just the way it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Stop looking at Great schools

Yes Wootton is one of the top schools in the county

It is very good. You will get a lot of complaints on this board. There are good and bad teachers at every HS.

My kids got accepted from Wootton, for example at

MIT, Stanford, GA Tech, Yale, Columbia, Michigan, University of Chicago, USC, UNC, DUKE, CMU and a few others

The computer science dept at Wootton is exceptional. The English Dept needs work. Math & Science are very good

This is what I would say. Education is something no one can take away from you and Wootton does it's job. My kids all went off to college and thought most of college courses were easy, they were extremely well prepared.

If you are looking at a home in Dufief I would be warry as boundries might change. And Crown farm could be the new HS that I would not be ok with.

Why?

DP. There are people on this thread that believe that any new HS will attract the best teachers. Although there is some truth to that, a shiny penny can easily dull.

I think it depends on which ES feed Crown. Lakewood and Stone Mill are pretty close to the school; but so are Rosemont, Fields Road and Summit Hall.

Same goes for Wootton. It's a great school, but once Crown opens, anything can happen.

If MCPS was smart, they'd shift everyone from Wootton to Crown, renovate Wootton, then decide how to split up the boundaries. That way they don't get as much flak for neglecting Wootton when they redraw and it will be an easier pill to swallow.

For anyone who's lived in the County a while, I think you already know the chances of that happening? lol

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Anonymous wrote:I relocated from out of state to Maryland. Only Winston Churchill and Walt Whitman are the ones you want.

Wooten and Walter Johnson are the lesser W schools and it reflects in the home prices.

Now Wooten and Walter Johnson Might be fantastic schools but that does not reflect in real estate prices.

We relocated here, too, looked all over, including the W schools. We chose RM for IB and for its diversity. We moved from a wealthy area, like Whitman, and didn't like what we saw. We didn't want our kids surrounded by that kind of wealth and entitlement. RM isn't perfect by any means, but the IB magnet has been great for our DC.

You mean you didn't like the real estate prices. Isn't RM having lots of issues with violence? Yikes and good luck with that.

No more than any other high-school and RM has better overall SATs and college outcomes.

Thanks to IB kids. When IB kids avg is more than 700pts higher than non-IB kids, that happens.

RM has roughly 600 students per grade. What percent of students in each grade at RM are at RM because of the IB magnet program and otherwise would not be at RM?

It's about 550 per grade, and about 100 from outside the cluster. So, roughly 20% per grade. But as a PP stated, RMIB is mostly Asian Americans, and actually, there are quite a few RMIB students not from W clusters.

MCPS provided the information by demographic cohort by school. RMIB is roughly 60% Asian. The average SAT for 132 Asians who took the SAT at RM that year was 1265. RMIB is roughly 20%-25% white. The average SAT for the 110 whites was 1270. My point is this doesn't seem to have a significant impact. I can crunch the numbers if we have an average for the magnet, but the ballpark is maybe 20 points.

https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

Here!

That makes no sense. IB kids consider anything less than 1500 a failure or automatic retake. I don’t know any IB kid in 1200/1300 range. It just doesn’t happen. Other IB parents please chime in.

+1 I agree.

Less than 1500 might be considered a "failure" by RMIB students, but it does happen. 1200s? Now, I would be shocked if that happened. Not sure about 1300s.

1200/1300 doesn’t happen w/ IB kids. It simply doesn’t. My kid - middle of pack in IB - retook 1540. Not saying that was smart but it’s just the way it is.

I remember seeing the average for Blair SMCS was something like 1530 so guessing RMIB is something similar.