RMIB vs BCC IB

[Anonymous]

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“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

Which then goes to show that there are more higher achieving students at RMIB than BCC IB.

But you are correct. 100 kids from RMIB all applying to similar schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

Which then goes to show that there are more higher achieving students at RMIB than BCC IB.

But you are correct. 100 kids from RMIB all applying to similar schools.

Was anybody saying otherwise? There is a competitive (in multiple senses of the word) magnet program at RM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

I am not in any way trying to make that point. I am trying to understand how looking at the overall outcomes for a particular program at RMIB is the same analysis people apply to all sorts of other academic decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

The admission data published by Bethesda Beat by high-school suggests otherwise. RMIB >>> Kennedy > Springbrook etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

The admission data published by Bethesda Beat by high-school suggests otherwise. RMIB >>> Kennedy > Springbrook etc.

Really, Bethesda Beat publishes information about high school admissions for people who got the IB Diploma at RM vs. people who got the IB Diploma at Kennedy vs. people who got the IB Diploma at Springbrook? I must have missed that! Can you post a link, please?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

The admission data published by Bethesda Beat by high-school suggests otherwise. RMIB >>> Kennedy > Springbrook etc.

Yes, the college admission data published by Bethesda beat shows that RMIB has more impressive statistics than any other school aside for Blair in the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

The admission data published by Bethesda Beat by high-school suggests otherwise. RMIB >>> Kennedy > Springbrook etc.

Yes, the college admission data published by Bethesda beat shows that RMIB has more impressive statistics than any other school aside for Blair in the county.

The school is RM. RMIB is not a school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

The admission data published by Bethesda Beat by high-school suggests otherwise. RMIB >>> Kennedy > Springbrook etc.

Yes, the college admission data published by Bethesda beat shows that RMIB has more impressive statistics than any other school aside for Blair in the county.

The school is RM. RMIB is not a school.

The entire thread is about RMIB! It’s in the title.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

The admission data published by Bethesda Beat by high-school suggests otherwise. RMIB >>> Kennedy > Springbrook etc.

Yes, the college admission data published by Bethesda beat shows that RMIB has more impressive statistics than any other school aside for Blair in the county.

The school is RM. RMIB is not a school.

The entire thread is about RMIB! It’s in the title.

DP. I think PP's point is that the Bethesda Beat article shows RMHS as a whole, not just RMIB. Some people think that RM's college admissions data in that article only reflects RMIB students. It doesn't. I know of several non RMIB students who do very well in college admissions. That is why RM as a whole is on that list, and why the other regional IBs are not on the list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

The admission data published by Bethesda Beat by high-school suggests otherwise. RMIB >>> Kennedy > Springbrook etc.

Yes, the college admission data published by Bethesda beat shows that RMIB has more impressive statistics than any other school aside for Blair in the county.

The school is RM. RMIB is not a school.

The entire thread is about RMIB! It’s in the title.

DP. I think PP's point is that the Bethesda Beat article shows RMHS as a whole, not just RMIB. Some people think that RM's college admissions data in that article only reflects RMIB students. It doesn't. I know of several non RMIB students who do very well in college admissions. That is why RM as a whole is on that list, and why the other regional IBs are not on the list.

Not the PP, but do you know any compiled stats for that? I am just curious to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
“Also, the percentage pass rate is higher at RM.”

What you mean to say is that the pass rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a program is predictably higher than the pass rate of a group of students who did not need to meet any criteria to attend a program, right?

Just saying

I agree with you. But I'm not sure the point of the statement. Don't people consider the outcomes of private school when deciding to send their kids there? And isn't that really the same analysis? Don't people consider the outcomes from graduating various colleges when choosing to go there? Both of which are based on competitive selection...

In other words:

"The top tier college acceptance rate of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend (Sidwell/Choate/GDS) is predictably higher than the top tier college acceptance rate of a group of kids who did not compete and attended their local public school."
"The average annual income post-graduation of a group of students who were competitively selected to attend a top tier college is predictably higher than the annual income of a group that did not compete and get accepted to those schools."

No.

You are saying that people do not think about the outcomes when making these types of decisions? Then what do people consider?

It's not the same analysis.

Any kid who gets into the magnet program for IB at RM will likely be equally successful, with respect to the IB diploma, at any of the multiple high schools in MCPS that offer IB. And might even be MORE successful at getting into fancy colleges at some of the other high schools than at RM, because the competition for fancy colleges from kids who are in the magnet program for IB at RM must be stiff.

When you define a "Fancy college" aren't you including in that analysis the overall outcomes from that degree, notwithstanding that individual outcomes may differ?

What you just described is not wrong, but it is precisely true of the examples that I gave as well.

If you're making the point that being in the RMIB magnet helps you get into the fancy colleges - well, I doubt it. I bet it hurts you. If you want to increase your chances of getting into a fancy college, go to Watkins Mill or Kennedy or Springbrook. Or move to Idaho and become a shepherd.

The admission data published by Bethesda Beat by high-school suggests otherwise. RMIB >>> Kennedy > Springbrook etc.

Yes, the college admission data published by Bethesda beat shows that RMIB has more impressive statistics than any other school aside for Blair in the county.

The school is RM. RMIB is not a school.

The entire thread is about RMIB! It’s in the title.

DP. I think PP's point is that the Bethesda Beat article shows RMHS as a whole, not just RMIB. Some people think that RM's college admissions data in that article only reflects RMIB students. It doesn't. I know of several non RMIB students who do very well in college admissions. That is why RM as a whole is on that list, and why the other regional IBs are not on the list.

Not the PP, but do you know any compiled stats for that? I am just curious to know.

I don't think they compile stats for that. But, There are about 550 seniors at RM, and only about 23% are in RMIB. As stated previously, there are many non RMIB kids who take AP and some IB classes but are not in the program due to time constraints. Some do dual enrollment and get college credit that way. These are not "average" kids, and many go on to good colleges.

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We are in B-CC cluster, and I can't imagine sending my kid to RMIB given that B-CC already has an IB program. That commute would be terrible for us, and I'm confident my son would do fine in B-CC IB if he wanted to do it. Is OP asking whether to move inbounds for one vs. the other given the quality? It sounds like inbounds students for RM can joint he IB program in 11th grade without having to apply. If that's the case, then it sounds pretty similar to the process at B-CC. I wouldn't want to live in farther from DC/work than we already do, so if I were looking to move now I would choose B-CC catchement over RM's in a heartbeat. But if that's not an issue for OP, then it sounds like RM is the way to go. You get the right to attend the IB program even if you are not selected for the magnet, and if you do get into the magnet, and the magnet itself has additonal specialized classes for 9th and 10th graders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are in B-CC cluster, and I can't imagine sending my kid to RMIB given that B-CC already has an IB program. That commute would be terrible for us, and I'm confident my son would do fine in B-CC IB if he wanted to do it. Is OP asking whether to move inbounds for one vs. the other given the quality? It sounds like inbounds students for RM can joint he IB program in 11th grade without having to apply. If that's the case, then it sounds pretty similar to the process at B-CC. I wouldn't want to live in farther from DC/work than we already do, so if I were looking to move now I would choose B-CC catchement over RM's in a heartbeat. But if that's not an issue for OP, then it sounds like RM is the way to go. You get the right to attend the IB program even if you are not selected for the magnet, and if you do get into the magnet, and the magnet itself has additonal specialized classes for 9th and 10th graders.

Both schools are fine options.