RMIB vs BCC IB

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RMIB has the same number of admittances to the same kinds of colleges as Whitman. There's an annual chart that someone always posts in the college forum.

So the usual - 1 or 2 to Harvard, 1 to MIT etc etc.
They aren't changing the college's own criteria for selection or the limits on how many they will accept from any given HS.

You all should know this already.

I'm guessing that the chart is for Richard Montgomery HS, not for the RM IB magnet program. From reading DCUM, you'd think the only RM students who go to college are the students in the RM IB magnet program.

Nope its for everyone from "RM"

[Anonymous]

The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

LOL it's the most rigorous program in the entire county and is just amazing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

Can you point me to this list you speak of?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

Can you point me to this list you speak of?

PP is talking about some private organization that only caters to the rich, and publishes a list of expensive private schools, many of them boarding schools that have IB.

PP is comparing those rich boarding schools to a public school in a large district that has a mix of wealth and poverty.

Yep, PP must be a product of privilege and wealth who lives in a bubble and doesn't understand the challenges of large public schools to compare those wealthy private schools to a public school that has 35% FARMs rate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

The ‘global list’ is a joke. It’s created by a private organization with clear profit motives.

Show me an OBJECTIVE list that looks as just data on scores. Otherwise, your global list is meaningless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

Can you point me to this list you speak of?

The PP is talking about this list that was posted earlier in this thread:

https://www.ib-schools.com/league-tables/global-top-ib-schools

This list is compiled by a private corporation trying to sell its services to wealthy international parents who want their kids in private schools.

From the website:
“Education Advisers Ltd is an education consultancy which operates seven separate websites concerning private education in the UK and world-wide. www.IB-Schools.com is our specialist site about International Baccalaureate schools, and aims to provide clear information, advice and services to parents and students seeking a private education.”

Clearly they are not going to post stats about public schools that parents can’t buy their way into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

The ‘global list’ is a joke. It’s created by a private organization with clear profit motives.

Show me an OBJECTIVE list that looks as just data on scores. Otherwise, your global list is meaningless.

DP.. it doesn't matter. I'm sure those schools do have high IB scores, but once again, they are expensive private schools that cater to the rich and powerful. Of course, kids from wealthy families will do well. They can buy tutors; they have small class sizes and staff will hold their hand throughout the entire process. I know someone who went to one of those private IB schools, and he is smart.

But, it's an unfair comparison. A lot of the RMIB kids come from families of modest means. The school is large. There isn't as much handholding. Also, in the US, kids have to have all kinds of extra curricular activities. Private school kids don't need any of that to get into a good college from abroad. Their wealth and connections is enough. RMIB students don't have that, so the fact that they still have a 98% IB dimploma rate, all while having 3+ extra curricular activities, and most go on to top colleges is a huge feat. They self study AP exams, take IB and AP exams; some have jobs; make their own lunches; take the bus at 6:15am, etc..

Simply by those measures, RMIB students accomplish more than the wealthy kids in those wealthy private schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

The ‘global list’ is a joke. It’s created by a private organization with clear profit motives.

Show me an OBJECTIVE list that looks as just data on scores. Otherwise, your global list is meaningless.

DP.. it doesn't matter. I'm sure those schools do have high IB scores, but once again, they are expensive private schools that cater to the rich and powerful. Of course, kids from wealthy families will do well. They can buy tutors; they have small class sizes and staff will hold their hand throughout the entire process. I know someone who went to one of those private IB schools, and he is smart.

But, it's an unfair comparison. A lot of the RMIB kids come from families of modest means. The school is large. There isn't as much handholding. Also, in the US, kids have to have all kinds of extra curricular activities. Private school kids don't need any of that to get into a good college from abroad. Their wealth and connections is enough. RMIB students don't have that, so the fact that they still have a 98% IB dimploma rate, all while having 3+ extra curricular activities, and most go on to top colleges is a huge feat. They self study AP exams, take IB and AP exams; some have jobs; make their own lunches; take the bus at 6:15am, etc..

Simply by those measures, RMIB students accomplish more than the wealthy kids in those wealthy private schools.

I agree with all of that! It’s ridiculous to compare outcomes of elite private schools to a large public high school in an incredibly diverse county.

But the PP is fixated on this bogus ‘global list’ as if it is some indicator that RMIB is not as good as IB schools in Europe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

The ‘global list’ is a joke. It’s created by a private organization with clear profit motives.

Show me an OBJECTIVE list that looks as just data on scores. Otherwise, your global list is meaningless.

DP.. it doesn't matter. I'm sure those schools do have high IB scores, but once again, they are expensive private schools that cater to the rich and powerful. Of course, kids from wealthy families will do well. They can buy tutors; they have small class sizes and staff will hold their hand throughout the entire process. I know someone who went to one of those private IB schools, and he is smart.

But, it's an unfair comparison. A lot of the RMIB kids come from families of modest means. The school is large. There isn't as much handholding. Also, in the US, kids have to have all kinds of extra curricular activities. Private school kids don't need any of that to get into a good college from abroad. Their wealth and connections is enough. RMIB students don't have that, so the fact that they still have a 98% IB dimploma rate, all while having 3+ extra curricular activities, and most go on to top colleges is a huge feat. They self study AP exams, take IB and AP exams; some have jobs; make their own lunches; take the bus at 6:15am, etc..

Simply by those measures, RMIB students accomplish more than the wealthy kids in those wealthy private schools.

I agree with all of that! It’s ridiculous to compare outcomes of elite private schools to a large public high school in an incredibly diverse county.

But the PP is fixated on this bogus ‘global list’ as if it is some indicator that RMIB is not as good as IB schools in Europe.

Elite magnets like RMIB or Blair SMCS completely destroy the big 3 privates in any and every academic matchup. There is no comparison. They aren't remotely in the same league as the magnets. Those schools are for lazy and spoiled rich kids who don't even know the meaning of hard work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

And yet, my kid will have the same IB diploma as those fancy rich kids, even though hers isn’t even from a magnet program. That’s the whole point of the program.

The diploma is the benchmark, not some external list. It means everyone awarded it has achieved the same standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

And yet, my kid will have the same IB diploma as those fancy rich kids, even though hers isn’t even from a magnet program. That’s the whole point of the program.

The diploma is the benchmark, not some external list. It means everyone awarded it has achieved the same standards.

The IB program, I mean, but the magnet program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

And yet, my kid will have the same IB diploma as those fancy rich kids, even though hers isn’t even from a magnet program. That’s the whole point of the program.

The diploma is the benchmark, not some external list. It means everyone awarded it has achieved the same standards.

The IB program, I mean, but the magnet program.

Gaah—NOT the magnet program—tiny phone, no coffee, sorry!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The IB is an international curriculum. The fact that the RM school isn't even on the global list means it is a total waste of time taking it there. It doesn't matter if the school teaching it is private or public, it is a universally accepted benchmark and if you're not making it, you've failed.

Can you point me to this list you speak of?

PP is talking about some private organization that only caters to the rich, and publishes a list of expensive private schools, many of them boarding schools that have IB.

PP is comparing those rich boarding schools to a public school in a large district that has a mix of wealth and poverty.

Yep, PP must be a product of privilege and wealth who lives in a bubble and doesn't understand the challenges of large public schools to compare those wealthy private schools to a public school that has 35% FARMs rate.

I think it costs a couple grand to get on this list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:RMIB has the same number of admittances to the same kinds of colleges as Whitman. There's an annual chart that someone always posts in the college forum.

So the usual - 1 or 2 to Harvard, 1 to MIT etc etc.
They aren't changing the college's own criteria for selection or the limits on how many they will accept from any given HS.

You all should know this already.

I'm guessing that the chart is for Richard Montgomery HS, not for the RM IB magnet program. From reading DCUM, you'd think the only RM students who go to college are the students in the RM IB magnet program.

Nope its for everyone from "RM"

BCC is in decline. Kids are passed out in the bathrooms. RM is a better environment.