My wife is furious with me for not standing up for her when my brother told her off.

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Why did you marry this awful stepmother? What a wench.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did you marry this awful stepmother? What a wench.

To quote the Knight Templar in Raiders 3, you chose poorly.

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Who sends their kids weeks on end at age five to their aunt and uncles.

Nope nope nope .

No one is right here.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP may be a troll, but the people in this thread are so juvenile, vulgar, and classless. True gutter Jerry Springer audience members of the soul. That response was *way* out of line when speaking to any man’s wife, let alone his own brother’s wife.

She contacted him first and made a rude demand. She got back what she was dishing out. Who did she think she was to contact him and talk to him that way?

She “texted him and asked him why he never took her kids anywhere that it was not fair.” That may be whiny, but it’s not rude and it’s definitely not disrespectful. What the brother said was.

Do we teach our children to speak to others that way? Of course not, but because OP’s wife is allegedly some horrible woman who should be divorced immediately and she deserves to get put in her place? GMAFB. Vile.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but come on. Of course it’s super rude to contact a random person (absolutely nobody to you, by blood or marriage) and demand that they spend tens of thousands of dollars on your kids taking them on vacations just because they feel entitled to it because they need to watch another kid get it. Nobody normal does that. The brother got annoyed and understandably so. Honestly she’s lucky he didn’t just tell her to F off. I’m sure he had to hold that back and feels like he did a pretty good job restraining himself!

NP but he's literally her brother in law. By marriage.

OP you sound like a weird observer in your own family. You've been with this woman for seven years and you don't think it's strange that your family doesn't care to get to know her beyond pleasantries? You don't particularly care about your stepdaughters even though you've known them since elementary school, you don't care enough about your own daughter not to join families with someone whose kids she dislikes enough to avoid your house, you don't care enough about your wife to tell you brother not to curse at her. You're just kind of drifting through, surrounded by people behaving various degrees of badly and reporting back on their behavior with little investment or awareness to how you're contributing to this dysfunction. It's bizarre, but I think this is a troll so who cares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who sends their kids weeks on end at age five to their aunt and uncles.

Nope nope nope .

No one is right here.

Well, that's not exactly what he said, but yeah, some people let kids visit and travel with family members away from them. Even at young ages. That's not the issue here. The issue is the stuff you skipped over so you could judge someone for making a different parenting choice than you would.

[Anonymous]

The problem is all the single moms out there who think men are just something to be used and drained of all resources for the benefit of the mom and her kids, then dispenses with, then move on to the next one.

The sense of entitlement is supreme, and rises to a delusional level. "If you are my partner, I am automatically entitled to determine how best to use all of YOUR resources, not just YOUR resources (like the $1,000 check your Mom gave you for your birthday), but all the resources of your entire extended family. I, and I alone, am the sole determinant of all resources that I think I can get my hands on, by any means. This is what you agreed to when I gave you access to my V."

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Anonymous wrote:The OP may be a troll, but the people in this thread are so juvenile, vulgar, and classless. True gutter Jerry Springer audience members of the soul. That response was *way* out of line when speaking to any man’s wife, let alone his own brother’s wife.

She contacted him first and made a rude demand. She got back what she was dishing out. Who did she think she was to contact him and talk to him that way?

She “texted him and asked him why he never took her kids anywhere that it was not fair.” That may be whiny, but it’s not rude and it’s definitely not disrespectful. What the brother said was.

Do we teach our children to speak to others that way? Of course not, but because OP’s wife is allegedly some horrible woman who should be divorced immediately and she deserves to get put in her place? GMAFB. Vile.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but come on. Of course it’s super rude to contact a random person (absolutely nobody to you, by blood or marriage) and demand that they spend tens of thousands of dollars on your kids taking them on vacations just because they feel entitled to it because they need to watch another kid get it. Nobody normal does that. The brother got annoyed and understandably so. Honestly she’s lucky he didn’t just tell her to F off. I’m sure he had to hold that back and feels like he did a pretty good job restraining himself!

NP but he's literally her brother in law. By marriage.

OP you sound like a weird observer in your own family. You've been with this woman for seven years and you don't think it's strange that your family doesn't care to get to know her beyond pleasantries? You don't particularly care about your stepdaughters even though you've known them since elementary school, you don't care enough about your own daughter not to join families with someone whose kids she dislikes enough to avoid your house, you don't care enough about your wife to tell you brother not to curse at her. You're just kind of drifting through, surrounded by people behaving various degrees of badly and reporting back on their behavior with little investment or awareness to how you're contributing to this dysfunction. It's bizarre, but I think this is a troll so who cares.

Brother in law is nobody in this case. She’s not his blood and she didn’t marry him. Brother in law sometimes means something in families because it’s the blood uncle for your kids. Which isn’t the case here. This guy has no relation whatsoever to this woman. And he has no relation whatsoever to her kids.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP may be a troll, but the people in this thread are so juvenile, vulgar, and classless. True gutter Jerry Springer audience members of the soul. That response was *way* out of line when speaking to any man’s wife, let alone his own brother’s wife.

She contacted him first and made a rude demand. She got back what she was dishing out. Who did she think she was to contact him and talk to him that way?

She “texted him and asked him why he never took her kids anywhere that it was not fair.” That may be whiny, but it’s not rude and it’s definitely not disrespectful. What the brother said was.

Do we teach our children to speak to others that way? Of course not, but because OP’s wife is allegedly some horrible woman who should be divorced immediately and she deserves to get put in her place? GMAFB. Vile.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but come on. Of course it’s super rude to contact a random person (absolutely nobody to you, by blood or marriage) and demand that they spend tens of thousands of dollars on your kids taking them on vacations just because they feel entitled to it because they need to watch another kid get it. Nobody normal does that. The brother got annoyed and understandably so. Honestly she’s lucky he didn’t just tell her to F off. I’m sure he had to hold that back and feels like he did a pretty good job restraining himself!

NP but he's literally her brother in law. By marriage.

OP you sound like a weird observer in your own family. You've been with this woman for seven years and you don't think it's strange that your family doesn't care to get to know her beyond pleasantries? You don't particularly care about your stepdaughters even though you've known them since elementary school, you don't care enough about your own daughter not to join families with someone whose kids she dislikes enough to avoid your house, you don't care enough about your wife to tell you brother not to curse at her. You're just kind of drifting through, surrounded by people behaving various degrees of badly and reporting back on their behavior with little investment or awareness to how you're contributing to this dysfunction. It's bizarre, but I think this is a troll so who cares.

His family (if you mean his brother) has gotten to know her beyond pleasantries. They’re apparently at the level of her feeling entitled enough to call him directly, without her husbands knowledge or involvement, and make insane demands of his time and money. His family knows her and just doesn’t like her. Which is exactly what the brother said.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP may be a troll, but the people in this thread are so juvenile, vulgar, and classless. True gutter Jerry Springer audience members of the soul. That response was *way* out of line when speaking to any man’s wife, let alone his own brother’s wife.

She contacted him first and made a rude demand. She got back what she was dishing out. Who did she think she was to contact him and talk to him that way?

She “texted him and asked him why he never took her kids anywhere that it was not fair.” That may be whiny, but it’s not rude and it’s definitely not disrespectful. What the brother said was.

Do we teach our children to speak to others that way? Of course not, but because OP’s wife is allegedly some horrible woman who should be divorced immediately and she deserves to get put in her place? GMAFB. Vile.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but come on. Of course it’s super rude to contact a random person (absolutely nobody to you, by blood or marriage) and demand that they spend tens of thousands of dollars on your kids taking them on vacations just because they feel entitled to it because they need to watch another kid get it. Nobody normal does that. The brother got annoyed and understandably so. Honestly she’s lucky he didn’t just tell her to F off. I’m sure he had to hold that back and feels like he did a pretty good job restraining himself!

NP but he's literally her brother in law. By marriage.

OP you sound like a weird observer in your own family. You've been with this woman for seven years and you don't think it's strange that your family doesn't care to get to know her beyond pleasantries? You don't particularly care about your stepdaughters even though you've known them since elementary school, you don't care enough about your own daughter not to join families with someone whose kids she dislikes enough to avoid your house, you don't care enough about your wife to tell you brother not to curse at her. You're just kind of drifting through, surrounded by people behaving various degrees of badly and reporting back on their behavior with little investment or awareness to how you're contributing to this dysfunction. It's bizarre, but I think this is a troll so who cares.

His family (if you mean his brother) has gotten to know her beyond pleasantries. They’re apparently at the level of her feeling entitled enough to call him directly, without her husbands knowledge or involvement, and make insane demands of his time and money. His family knows her and just doesn’t like her. Which is exactly what the brother said.

He literally said in the OP that his brother has not gotten to know her beyond pleasantries (but gets her a nice Christmas present). Those are OP's words, and his description of their relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP may be a troll, but the people in this thread are so juvenile, vulgar, and classless. True gutter Jerry Springer audience members of the soul. That response was *way* out of line when speaking to any man’s wife, let alone his own brother’s wife.

She contacted him first and made a rude demand. She got back what she was dishing out. Who did she think she was to contact him and talk to him that way?

She “texted him and asked him why he never took her kids anywhere that it was not fair.” That may be whiny, but it’s not rude and it’s definitely not disrespectful. What the brother said was.

Do we teach our children to speak to others that way? Of course not, but because OP’s wife is allegedly some horrible woman who should be divorced immediately and she deserves to get put in her place? GMAFB. Vile.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but come on. Of course it’s super rude to contact a random person (absolutely nobody to you, by blood or marriage) and demand that they spend tens of thousands of dollars on your kids taking them on vacations just because they feel entitled to it because they need to watch another kid get it. Nobody normal does that. The brother got annoyed and understandably so. Honestly she’s lucky he didn’t just tell her to F off. I’m sure he had to hold that back and feels like he did a pretty good job restraining himself!

NP but he's literally her brother in law. By marriage.

OP you sound like a weird observer in your own family. You've been with this woman for seven years and you don't think it's strange that your family doesn't care to get to know her beyond pleasantries? You don't particularly care about your stepdaughters even though you've known them since elementary school, you don't care enough about your own daughter not to join families with someone whose kids she dislikes enough to avoid your house, you don't care enough about your wife to tell you brother not to curse at her. You're just kind of drifting through, surrounded by people behaving various degrees of badly and reporting back on their behavior with little investment or awareness to how you're contributing to this dysfunction. It's bizarre, but I think this is a troll so who cares.

His family (if you mean his brother) has gotten to know her beyond pleasantries. They’re apparently at the level of her feeling entitled enough to call him directly, without her husbands knowledge or involvement, and make insane demands of his time and money. His family knows her and just doesn’t like her. Which is exactly what the brother said.

Not quite. OP's wife feels confident enough in her ability to control and manipulate OP, that she has calculated that bringing enormous pressure to bear on OP, to cause a family rift with his brother, on her behalf/her kids' behalf (the OP's stepkids), will result in some kind of a financial benefit to her (or her kids/his step kids) at some point down the road if she keeps the pressure on long enough. She does not care if that results in a permanent breach between OP and his brother, OP and his daughter, or anyone else.

Now, the financial benefit she anticipates by these tactics aren't necessarily that OP's brother in law will pay for OP's stepkids to do anything. That seems very unlikely. But, she will torment and guilt trip OP until he makes some sort of huge financial concession for the benefit of her, and/or her step kids. They have separate finances, however, she will attempt to manipulate and guilt OP into taking on financial responsibility for his step children in various ways.

She is just like the other woman who glommed her husband's $1,000 gift check from his Mom, only more so--the end result, the natural conclusion of that type of thinking and that type of behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The OP may be a troll, but the people in this thread are so juvenile, vulgar, and classless. True gutter Jerry Springer audience members of the soul. That response was *way* out of line when speaking to any man’s wife, let alone his own brother’s wife.

She contacted him first and made a rude demand. She got back what she was dishing out. Who did she think she was to contact him and talk to him that way?

She “texted him and asked him why he never took her kids anywhere that it was not fair.” That may be whiny, but it’s not rude and it’s definitely not disrespectful. What the brother said was.

Do we teach our children to speak to others that way? Of course not, but because OP’s wife is allegedly some horrible woman who should be divorced immediately and she deserves to get put in her place? GMAFB. Vile.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but come on. Of course it’s super rude to contact a random person (absolutely nobody to you, by blood or marriage) and demand that they spend tens of thousands of dollars on your kids taking them on vacations just because they feel entitled to it because they need to watch another kid get it. Nobody normal does that. The brother got annoyed and understandably so. Honestly she’s lucky he didn’t just tell her to F off. I’m sure he had to hold that back and feels like he did a pretty good job restraining himself!

NP but he's literally her brother in law. By marriage.

OP you sound like a weird observer in your own family. You've been with this woman for seven years and you don't think it's strange that your family doesn't care to get to know her beyond pleasantries? You don't particularly care about your stepdaughters even though you've known them since elementary school, you don't care enough about your own daughter not to join families with someone whose kids she dislikes enough to avoid your house, you don't care enough about your wife to tell you brother not to curse at her. You're just kind of drifting through, surrounded by people behaving various degrees of badly and reporting back on their behavior with little investment or awareness to how you're contributing to this dysfunction. It's bizarre, but I think this is a troll so who cares.

Brother in law is nobody in this case. She’s not his blood and she didn’t marry him. Brother in law sometimes means something in families because it’s the blood uncle for your kids. Which isn’t the case here. This guy has no relation whatsoever to this woman. And he has no relation whatsoever to her kids.

What a bizarre take on in laws. We don’t have kids but my husband’s brother is not a nobody to me or vice versa. And despite not popping me out of her womb, my husband’s mother is related to me too *gasp!*

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The OP may be a troll, but the people in this thread are so juvenile, vulgar, and classless. True gutter Jerry Springer audience members of the soul. That response was *way* out of line when speaking to any man’s wife, let alone his own brother’s wife.

She contacted him first and made a rude demand. She got back what she was dishing out. Who did she think she was to contact him and talk to him that way?

She “texted him and asked him why he never took her kids anywhere that it was not fair.” That may be whiny, but it’s not rude and it’s definitely not disrespectful. What the brother said was.

Do we teach our children to speak to others that way? Of course not, but because OP’s wife is allegedly some horrible woman who should be divorced immediately and she deserves to get put in her place? GMAFB. Vile.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but come on. Of course it’s super rude to contact a random person (absolutely nobody to you, by blood or marriage) and demand that they spend tens of thousands of dollars on your kids taking them on vacations just because they feel entitled to it because they need to watch another kid get it. Nobody normal does that. The brother got annoyed and understandably so. Honestly she’s lucky he didn’t just tell her to F off. I’m sure he had to hold that back and feels like he did a pretty good job restraining himself!

NP but he's literally her brother in law. By marriage.

OP you sound like a weird observer in your own family. You've been with this woman for seven years and you don't think it's strange that your family doesn't care to get to know her beyond pleasantries? You don't particularly care about your stepdaughters even though you've known them since elementary school, you don't care enough about your own daughter not to join families with someone whose kids she dislikes enough to avoid your house, you don't care enough about your wife to tell you brother not to curse at her. You're just kind of drifting through, surrounded by people behaving various degrees of badly and reporting back on their behavior with little investment or awareness to how you're contributing to this dysfunction. It's bizarre, but I think this is a troll so who cares.

Brother in law is nobody in this case. She’s not his blood and she didn’t marry him. Brother in law sometimes means something in families because it’s the blood uncle for your kids. Which isn’t the case here. This guy has no relation whatsoever to this woman. And he has no relation whatsoever to her kids.

What a bizarre take on in laws. We don’t have kids but my husband’s brother is not a nobody to me or vice versa. And despite not popping me out of her womb, my husband’s mother is related to me too *gasp!*

Well that’s your take on it. Personally I don’t think you owe them anything and they don’t owe you anything. Once you have kids, things change slightly since your kids are blood related to them.

If you choose to have friendships with your in-laws because of mutual respect then that’s great. But they aren’t related to you.

[Anonymous]

Whoever the single mother hater is on this thread should go grind their axe somewhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:The OP may be a troll, but the people in this thread are so juvenile, vulgar, and classless. True gutter Jerry Springer audience members of the soul. That response was *way* out of line when speaking to any man’s wife, let alone his own brother’s wife.

She contacted him first and made a rude demand. She got back what she was dishing out. Who did she think she was to contact him and talk to him that way?

She “texted him and asked him why he never took her kids anywhere that it was not fair.” That may be whiny, but it’s not rude and it’s definitely not disrespectful. What the brother said was.

Do we teach our children to speak to others that way? Of course not, but because OP’s wife is allegedly some horrible woman who should be divorced immediately and she deserves to get put in her place? GMAFB. Vile.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but come on. Of course it’s super rude to contact a random person (absolutely nobody to you, by blood or marriage) and demand that they spend tens of thousands of dollars on your kids taking them on vacations just because they feel entitled to it because they need to watch another kid get it. Nobody normal does that. The brother got annoyed and understandably so. Honestly she’s lucky he didn’t just tell her to F off. I’m sure he had to hold that back and feels like he did a pretty good job restraining himself!

NP but he's literally her brother in law. By marriage.

OP you sound like a weird observer in your own family. You've been with this woman for seven years and you don't think it's strange that your family doesn't care to get to know her beyond pleasantries? You don't particularly care about your stepdaughters even though you've known them since elementary school, you don't care enough about your own daughter not to join families with someone whose kids she dislikes enough to avoid your house, you don't care enough about your wife to tell you brother not to curse at her. You're just kind of drifting through, surrounded by people behaving various degrees of badly and reporting back on their behavior with little investment or awareness to how you're contributing to this dysfunction. It's bizarre, but I think this is a troll so who cares.

Brother in law is nobody in this case. She’s not his blood and she didn’t marry him. Brother in law sometimes means something in families because it’s the blood uncle for your kids. Which isn’t the case here. This guy has no relation whatsoever to this woman. And he has no relation whatsoever to her kids.

What a bizarre take on in laws. We don’t have kids but my husband’s brother is not a nobody to me or vice versa. And despite not popping me out of her womb, my husband’s mother is related to me too *gasp!*

Well that’s your take on it. Personally I don’t think you owe them anything and they don’t owe you anything. Once you have kids, things change slightly since your kids are blood related to them.

If you choose to have friendships with your in-laws because of mutual respect then that’s great. But they aren’t related to you.

They’re literally related by marriage. That’s the definition of being related by marriage. The world doesn’t revolve around your petty opinion, Janice!

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Anonymous wrote:The OP may be a troll, but the people in this thread are so juvenile, vulgar, and classless. True gutter Jerry Springer audience members of the soul. That response was *way* out of line when speaking to any man’s wife, let alone his own brother’s wife.

She contacted him first and made a rude demand. She got back what she was dishing out. Who did she think she was to contact him and talk to him that way?

She “texted him and asked him why he never took her kids anywhere that it was not fair.” That may be whiny, but it’s not rude and it’s definitely not disrespectful. What the brother said was.

Do we teach our children to speak to others that way? Of course not, but because OP’s wife is allegedly some horrible woman who should be divorced immediately and she deserves to get put in her place? GMAFB. Vile.

I’m not the person you’re responding to, but come on. Of course it’s super rude to contact a random person (absolutely nobody to you, by blood or marriage) and demand that they spend tens of thousands of dollars on your kids taking them on vacations just because they feel entitled to it because they need to watch another kid get it. Nobody normal does that. The brother got annoyed and understandably so. Honestly she’s lucky he didn’t just tell her to F off. I’m sure he had to hold that back and feels like he did a pretty good job restraining himself!

NP but he's literally her brother in law. By marriage.

OP you sound like a weird observer in your own family. You've been with this woman for seven years and you don't think it's strange that your family doesn't care to get to know her beyond pleasantries? You don't particularly care about your stepdaughters even though you've known them since elementary school, you don't care enough about your own daughter not to join families with someone whose kids she dislikes enough to avoid your house, you don't care enough about your wife to tell you brother not to curse at her. You're just kind of drifting through, surrounded by people behaving various degrees of badly and reporting back on their behavior with little investment or awareness to how you're contributing to this dysfunction. It's bizarre, but I think this is a troll so who cares.

His family (if you mean his brother) has gotten to know her beyond pleasantries. They’re apparently at the level of her feeling entitled enough to call him directly, without her husbands knowledge or involvement, and make insane demands of his time and money. His family knows her and just doesn’t like her. Which is exactly what the brother said.

Not quite. OP's wife feels confident enough in her ability to control and manipulate OP, that she has calculated that bringing enormous pressure to bear on OP, to cause a family rift with his brother, on her behalf/her kids' behalf (the OP's stepkids), will result in some kind of a financial benefit to her (or her kids/his step kids) at some point down the road if she keeps the pressure on long enough. She does not care if that results in a permanent breach between OP and his brother, OP and his daughter, or anyone else.

Now, the financial benefit she anticipates by these tactics aren't necessarily that OP's brother in law will pay for OP's stepkids to do anything. That seems very unlikely. But, she will torment and guilt trip OP until he makes some sort of huge financial concession for the benefit of her, and/or her step kids. They have separate finances, however, she will attempt to manipulate and guilt OP into taking on financial responsibility for his step children in various ways.

She is just like the other woman who glommed her husband's $1,000 gift check from his Mom, only more so--the end result, the natural conclusion of that type of thinking and that type of behavior.

I didn’t think about this but it actually makes sense. The OP fully funded his daughters college fund. Maybe the new wife expects some financial help from OP since his daughter got the trips too.

He really shouldn’t have gotten married to her. I wonder why he did. Usually people only do that when there is a new child. I sure hope that’s not the plan here.