Very disturbing incident on metro bus

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This sort of senseless, uncivilized behavior and subsequent violence are emblematic of how far we have devolved as a society.

No, it’s not okay to use crass language in public.

No, it’s not okay to beat up a lady and drag her off a bus.

What happens to these boys when they are out of high school? How do they work a job without cursing and assaults?

They do not plan to work regular ‘jobs’. Either public assistance or crime. Both are seen as acceptable ways to make a living.

I think we're jumping to conclusions that the immediate evidence before us don't really allow us to reach. How do you know what these people want or intend to do later? They did something terrible here, no doubt, but you don't know anything else about them besides what you saw on the video.

NP but behavior, especially extreme behavior, is both indicative of internal states and future behavior. Most people who commit violent crimes don't end up doing anything positive for society later on. *most*

[Anonymous]

This woman was violently attacked. She appears to be a middle aged woman or older who cares about her community.

The bus driver should be fired.

The bus driver bears a lot of responsibility in this. But the problem is that the politicians don't back the drivers (or the police) so the boots-on-the-ground drivers don't want to stick their necks out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sort of senseless, uncivilized behavior and subsequent violence are emblematic of how far we have devolved as a society.

No, it’s not okay to use crass language in public.

No, it’s not okay to beat up a lady and drag her off a bus.

What happens to these boys when they are out of high school? How do they work a job without cursing and assaults?

They do not plan to work regular ‘jobs’. Either public assistance or crime. Both are seen as acceptable ways to make a living.

I think we're jumping to conclusions that the immediate evidence before us don't really allow us to reach. How do you know what these people want or intend to do later? They did something terrible here, no doubt, but you don't know anything else about them besides what you saw on the video.

You’re right. There could absolutely be some future Rhodes scholars on tape there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This sort of senseless, uncivilized behavior and subsequent violence are emblematic of how far we have devolved as a society.

No, it’s not okay to use crass language in public.

No, it’s not okay to beat up a lady and drag her off a bus.

What happens to these boys when they are out of high school? How do they work a job without cursing and assaults?

They do not plan to work regular ‘jobs’. Either public assistance or crime. Both are seen as acceptable ways to make a living.

I think we're jumping to conclusions that the immediate evidence before us don't really allow us to reach. How do you know what these people want or intend to do later? They did something terrible here, no doubt, but you don't know anything else about them besides what you saw on the video.

You’re right. There could absolutely be some future Rhodes scholars on tape there.

Possibly, though I think it's significantly more likely that some of them ... do wind up with a job one day. Which the PP I was replying to seemed to think was impossible, they'll only be either on public assistance or criminals.

[Anonymous]

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This woman was violently attacked. She appears to be a middle aged woman or older who cares about her community.

The bus driver should be fired.

The bus driver bears a lot of responsibility in this. But the problem is that the politicians don't back the drivers (or the police) so the boots-on-the-ground drivers don't want to stick their necks out.

It will be interesting to see what the emergency protocol is for violence on a bus. But the driver did the right thing by not intervening. Not in the most heavily armed nation in the world. She or he deserves to go home to their family too.

[Anonymous]

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The bus driver bears a lot of responsibility in this. But the problem is that the politicians don't back the drivers (or the police) so the boots-on-the-ground drivers don't want to stick their necks out.


It will be interesting to see what the emergency protocol is for violence on a bus. But the driver did the right thing by not intervening. Not in the most heavily armed nation in the world. She or he deserves to go home to their family too.

And that is the attitude that lets the uncivilized brutalize everybody else, particularly in low income communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly I thought the video would be way worse. Obviously what the kids did was unacceptable and they should be charged with assault. But they don’t have weapons and they’re not hitting her, they’re just trying to push her off the bus. Way scarier stuff happens on the buses. I think it was 10+ years ago at the height of when DC was “good” and there were kids throwing rocks at the buses which was really dangerous. This is bad but not that “scary.”

This response is truly telling.
This is the mindset that allows this kind of attack to happen.
These kids need to be identified, prosecuted and severely punished. Anyone who would attack and literally throw an older woman off the bus simply because they were asked to stop with the foul language has issues. It is horrible.
And, to those that say, like a poster above, to avoid "bad places" and public transit - WTF? Nobody should be attacked in public like this. Avoiding these places is not going to stop these out-of-control idiots from attacking others. They need to be dragged into court along with their parents and have the book thrown at them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The bus driver bears a lot of responsibility in this. But the problem is that the politicians don't back the drivers (or the police) so the boots-on-the-ground drivers don't want to stick their necks out.


It will be interesting to see what the emergency protocol is for violence on a bus. But the driver did the right thing by not intervening. Not in the most heavily armed nation in the world. She or he deserves to go home to their family too.

And that is the attitude that lets the uncivilized brutalize everybody else, particularly in low income communities.

Come on, it’s a bus driver, not a police officer or security guard. The driver should have at least let the victim off the bus if she wanted it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly I thought the video would be way worse. Obviously what the kids did was unacceptable and they should be charged with assault. But they don’t have weapons and they’re not hitting her, they’re just trying to push her off the bus. Way scarier stuff happens on the buses. I think it was 10+ years ago at the height of when DC was “good” and there were kids throwing rocks at the buses which was really dangerous. This is bad but not that “scary.”

This response is truly telling.
This is the mindset that allows this kind of attack to happen.
These kids need to be identified, prosecuted and severely punished. Anyone who would attack and literally throw an older woman off the bus simply because they were asked to stop with the foul language has issues. It is horrible.
And, to those that say, like a poster above, to avoid "bad places" and public transit - WTF? Nobody should be attacked in public like this. Avoiding these places is not going to stop these out-of-control idiots from attacking others. They need to be dragged into court along with their parents and have the book thrown at them.

That will never happen.

You're on your own our there. The police won't help you and no one smart wants end up misrepresented on video as attacking teens.

The only option is to avoid those areas if you can. If you can't, you're pretty much fcked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a number where people can discreetly text when there is trouble on the bus or rails? Someone who doesn’t want to paint a target on themselves by calling may feel comfortable texting.

If there is a number it should be large in every metro car and every bus.

The number is 696873. MyMTPD. Put it in your contacts. It’s in my favorites.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A woman on the bus gave up her seat so another woman and her kids could sit down together. And then she asked a group of teens to stop cursing. I have no idea "how" she asked, but nothing justifies what these kids did to her. And I get why people are scared to intervene. What can be done to help prevent some of the out-of-control behavior of youth?

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/video-shows-a-woman-being-attacked-pushed-off-a-dc-metrobus

What can be done? Avoid areas and places, like “bad neighborhoods” and public transit where violent people are more likely to be.

Your privilege is really showing. You realize that so many people in DC have no choice but to live where they live and take public transportation, right. So we should make it safer for them instead of throwing our hands up and letting these hoodlums run the show.

But EVERYONE has a choice in how they act. So I choose to avoid being in areas where people can't act like decent human beings.

Wow! You can make that ‘choice’ due to your privilege. Some of us are forced to take mass transit. And we should be able to do so safely.



Also, don’t be so smug. As crime rises everywhere, the ‘areas where people can’t act like decent human beings’ will be more and more widespread.

It’s interesting to see such cognitive dissonance in your post. You employ a progressive buzzword like privilege, while also complaining about crime and how we should be able to walk around safely. It’s almost like you want to say we should get tough on crime. I just don’t get how you mix both concepts without irony.

There is not an ounce of cognitive dissonance.

I grew up poor, taking public transportation. I can recognize your privilege. You are able to avoid mass transit in DC - you can afford to Uber. You can 'avoid' the areas where these types of incidents happen because you can afford to live in a better part of DC.

I can also understand that we need to be tougher on crime. People should be able to take mass transit safely, especially people who rely on mass transit. I understand that Democrat-led, progressive policies have absolutely caused in increase in crime, and that disproportionately affects lower-income families who live in the neighborhoods where crime has increased.

This is exactly why some people in this area see white liberals as complete hypocrites. They support these initiatives that destroy the city (increased crime, crappy schools) and then they slink away to their wealthy enclaves where they don't have to deal with the negative effects of the policies they vote for.

+1000

Your post describes the white liberal leadership at my former Ivy college that loves to pontificate on how we should have let off juvenile offenders and defund the police but would actually never set foot in a neighborhood affected by crime. We’re a stone’s throw away of the disaster San Francisco has become if we don’t have better leadership in DC that allows law enforcement to do their job and holds criminals accountable. These kids are criminals and I hope they rot in hell for what they did to that woman who was just trying to do the right thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They attacked an older lady going to get her diabetes medicine from their own neighborhood who cared enough about them to chide them. They will likely.never realize what a gift she was offering

Blah blah blah. She was “moral.” She was “religious.” She “cared about them and offered them a gift.”

She was a controlling busybody who should have minded her own business and stop trying to police others’ behavior in public. The end.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What can be done is that people can drop their entitlement. If you’re not disabled and you get on a bus, you and your kids need to be prepared to stand. Stop policing others’ language. Done.

Terrible take.

You are saying it's fine for teens to scream obscenities on the bus, and basically make it an awful experience for other riders.

So an older person, like this woman, who is clearly religious and moral, should just endure this b/c she is too poor to Uber or drive, while wealthier people stop riding public transit so they don't have to engage with kids like this at all.

I can guarantee this behavior would not be tolerated in UMC white spaces. But it's OK in poorer, majority AA spaces? Poorer people have to have a lower quality of life out of fear of violence and harm? That's very messed up.

Oh, puh-lease. How asinine.

Yes. Keep your mouth shut. Swearing is not illegal. You are not entitled to seats together. Don’t like it? Walking is free.

Thanks for showing us what kind of person you are. I am not opposed to cursing but there is a time and place. And in front of little kids isn't it. Curse when you get off the bus.

Neat opinion you’ve got there. Feel free not to swear. Other people will. If you ride public buses, you may hear it. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This woman was violently attacked. She appears to be a middle aged woman or older who cares about her community.

The bus driver should be fired.

The bus driver bears a lot of responsibility in this. But the problem is that the politicians don't back the drivers (or the police) so the boots-on-the-ground drivers don't want to stick their necks out.

How So? How do you know the bus driver even knew what was going on? How do you know the driver didn’t do anything? What do you think should have been done?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

The bus driver bears a lot of responsibility in this. But the problem is that the politicians don't back the drivers (or the police) so the boots-on-the-ground drivers don't want to stick their necks out.


It will be interesting to see what the emergency protocol is for violence on a bus. But the driver did the right thing by not intervening. Not in the most heavily armed nation in the world. She or he deserves to go home to their family too.

And that is the attitude that lets the uncivilized brutalize everybody else, particularly in low income communities.

You need to assume everyone is carrying a gun. And act accordingly. Because that's what you have. Especially since ghost guns hit the street in such large numbers.