Abortion and religion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The right simply dioesn't believe in the First Amendment anymore

Does that really say Jesus, Guns, Babies behind her?

WTF is wrong with these people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The right simply dioesn't believe in the First Amendment anymore

This lady said, "We decide if we kill babies." Ironically, they kinda do. Georgia has some of the highest infant and maternal mortality rates in the country: https://jagwire.augusta.edu/racial-disparities-in-health-care-maternal-infant-mortality-remains-high-in-georgia

These people are religious fundamentalists willing to kill Americans for their faith. Just like the Taliban will let a single woman starve rather than go to work to earn a living...these people would rather women and their infants die than let them have access to the full range of medical care.

[Anonymous]

Jesus had nothing to say about abortion. Neither did the ancient Israelites.

There are thousands of references to social justice, mercy, and compassion for the poor and marginalized.

No one wants abortions as a form of contraception. The overwhelming majority of women needing abortions are poor and POC. Some of these women can’t even afford to complete pregnancies and feed/ care for their existing children. Others are victims of rape, incest or domestic violence and giving birth traps them further into vicious cycles of, or reminders of, abuse.

As a Christian, I cannot imagine ever going through with an abortion myself, but I also cannot imagine forcing women, especially vulnerable women, to have babies they cannot afford or are the products of abusive relations.

I really resent the way some politicians misuse abortion as a wedge issue to lend themselves a patina of morality when they act completely immoral in other ways that the Bible is much clearer about (showing kindness and mercy for the poor, for immigrants, for socially vulnerable).

Lord have mercy on our foolish ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jesus had nothing to say about abortion. Neither did the ancient Israelites.

There are thousands of references to social justice, mercy, and compassion for the poor and marginalized.

No one wants abortions as a form of contraception. The overwhelming majority of women needing abortions are poor and POC. Some of these women can’t even afford to complete pregnancies and feed/ care for their existing children. Others are victims of rape, incest or domestic violence and giving birth traps them further into vicious cycles of, or reminders of, abuse.

As a Christian, I cannot imagine ever going through with an abortion myself, but I also cannot imagine forcing women, especially vulnerable women, to have babies they cannot afford or are the products of abusive relations.

I really resent the way some politicians misuse abortion as a wedge issue to lend themselves a patina of morality when they act completely immoral in other ways that the Bible is much clearer about (showing kindness and mercy for the poor, for immigrants, for socially vulnerable).

Lord have mercy on our foolish ways.

You forget, those texts preach plenty about sexuality
Even more about sanctity about life

Hebrew texts advocate death for adultery

At the same time, freedom of religion is not related to laws about abortion

[Anonymous]

^^^Yeah not a fan of biblical literalism - apart From being ridiculous to not take social and historical context into account, it nearly always involves cherry picking texts ..,
What texts are you referring to regarding sexuality?

It does not sound like you are terribly familiar with the Old Testament’s surprisingly progressive approach to sexuality.

I highly recommend starting with:

Sexuality and Scripture: What Else Does the Bible Have to Say?
Debra W. Haffner


“Many people think they know what the Bible teaches about sexuality. They believe that the Bible teaches that sex is only for procreation and that masturbation, abortion, and contraception are wrong, when actually the Bible is silent on each of these issues. On the other hand, some assume that it is hopelessly patriarchal and should be disregarded completely, when there are actually texts that emphasize mutuality and equality.”

“How fair and pleasant you are

O loved one, delectable maiden.

You are stately as a palm tree,

And your breasts are like its clusters.
I say I will climb the palm tree, and
Lay hold of its branches.

Oh, may your breasts be like
Clusters of the vine.
And the scent of your breath like apples,
And your kisses like the best wine that
Goes down smoothly

Gliding over lips and teeth…
She answers:
That pleases my lover, rousing him
Even from sleep.

I am my lover’s,

He longs for me,
Only for me.
He answers:
Come my beloved,

Let us go out into the fields,

And lie all night among the flowering henna.
Let us go early to the vineyards…

There I will give you my love.”
Song of Songs 7:6–14

The Song of Songs is a delightfully erotic, sensual dance between an unmarried man and an unmarried woman, who, given what we know about marriage at the time the Bible was written, are probably in their early teen years. Their desire for each other is mutual; their passion is mutual; their fulfillment is mutual. The emphasis is on passion and intimacy; there is no discussion of marriage or fertility. And, it is only one of the places in Scripture where physical beauty is affirmed; where pleasure is good, where there are many forms of blessed relationships, and where sexuality is a source of pleasure and pain in our lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Evangelicals and certain Catholics have gone off the rails where abortion is concerned. It is truly crazy.

Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (the largest Lutheran Christian church) just came out with a statement in favor of abortion.

You need to check your facts more carefully PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jesus had nothing to say about abortion. Neither did the ancient Israelites.

There are thousands of references to social justice, mercy, and compassion for the poor and marginalized.

No one wants abortions as a form of contraception. The overwhelming majority of women needing abortions are poor and POC. Some of these women can’t even afford to complete pregnancies and feed/ care for their existing children. Others are victims of rape, incest or domestic violence and giving birth traps them further into vicious cycles of, or reminders of, abuse.

As a Christian, I cannot imagine ever going through with an abortion myself, but I also cannot imagine forcing women, especially vulnerable women, to have babies they cannot afford or are the products of abusive relations.

I really resent the way some politicians misuse abortion as a wedge issue to lend themselves a patina of morality when they act completely immoral in other ways that the Bible is much clearer about (showing kindness and mercy for the poor, for immigrants, for socially vulnerable).

Lord have mercy on our foolish ways.

Everytime I hear, "As a Christian," I want to vomit. I grew up with a family of "Christians" and lived in an area full of Christians. One of these "Christian" men beat a Black man with a chain and he also beat his wife. I believe in a higher power and in the power of prayer. True Christians should follow the teachings of Christ who preached love and non- judgment of our fellow human beings. It is none of your business whether, or when in a pregnancy, a woman chooses to abort. You "as a Christian " people have cause more heartache than Satan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Evangelicals and certain Catholics have gone off the rails where abortion is concerned. It is truly crazy.

Evangelical Lutheran Church of America (the largest Lutheran Christian church) just came out with a statement in favor of abortion.

You need to check your facts more carefully PP.

As a member of the ELCA, we have the word “evangelical” in our name but we’re not evangelical like the political classification. The Evangelicals have totally gone off the rails.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The right simply dioesn't believe in the First Amendment anymore

Does that really say Jesus, Guns, Babies behind her?

WTF is wrong with these people?

Lower IQ + corporal punishment + poor quality education + a lifetime of propaganda = maga

That’s what’s wrong with these people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The right simply dioesn't believe in the First Amendment anymore

Does that really say Jesus, Guns, Babies behind her?

WTF is wrong with these people?

Lower IQ + corporal punishment + poor quality education + a lifetime of propaganda = maga

That’s what’s wrong with these people.

Amy Coney Barrett with a Cracker accent.

[Anonymous]

The religions that are militantly anti-choice all have one thing in common - long histories of enabling and covering up sexual abuse by their patriarchal leaders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jesus had nothing to say about abortion. Neither did the ancient Israelites.

There are thousands of references to social justice, mercy, and compassion for the poor and marginalized.

No one wants abortions as a form of contraception. The overwhelming majority of women needing abortions are poor and POC. Some of these women can’t even afford to complete pregnancies and feed/ care for their existing children. Others are victims of rape, incest or domestic violence and giving birth traps them further into vicious cycles of, or reminders of, abuse.

As a Christian, I cannot imagine ever going through with an abortion myself, but I also cannot imagine forcing women, especially vulnerable women, to have babies they cannot afford or are the products of abusive relations.

I really resent the way some politicians misuse abortion as a wedge issue to lend themselves a patina of morality when they act completely immoral in other ways that the Bible is much clearer about (showing kindness and mercy for the poor, for immigrants, for socially vulnerable).

Lord have mercy on our foolish ways.

Everytime I hear, "As a Christian," I want to vomit. I grew up with a family of "Christians" and lived in an area full of Christians. One of these "Christian" men beat a Black man with a chain and he also beat his wife. I believe in a higher power and in the power of prayer. True Christians should follow the teachings of Christ who preached love and non- judgment of our fellow human beings. It is none of your business whether, or when in a pregnancy, a woman chooses to abort. You "as a Christian " people have cause more heartache than Satan.

I am PP and I can understand your POV.

If it was not perfectly obvious, I support abortion rights and women’s rights in general. Just because I could never have an abortion does not mean I can decide what is right for other women.

Yes I also understand why so many young people are leaving the Christian faith.

I am horrified by most politicians who claim to be strong Christian’s as usually their actions contradict Christi’s teachings.

I am a big believer in separation of church and state to protect the integrity of both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The right simply dioesn't believe in the First Amendment anymore

Does that really say Jesus, Guns, Babies behind her?

WTF is wrong with these people?

Lower IQ + corporal punishment + poor quality education + a lifetime of propaganda = maga

That’s what’s wrong with these people.

Are they redeemable? What do we do with the millions of people like this?

[Anonymous]

I don't know much about Jesus, but I do know that he loves guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The right simply dioesn't believe in the First Amendment anymore

Does that really say Jesus, Guns, Babies behind her?

WTF is wrong with these people?

Lower IQ + corporal punishment + poor quality education + a lifetime of propaganda = maga

That’s what’s wrong with these people.

Are they redeemable? What do we do with the millions of people like this?

Let them live their lives but keep their beliefs the hell away from public schools and government.