Does Baptism mean that you those who are not Baptized won't go to heaven?

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Comments are conflicting because beliefs are conflicting and people can hold whatever beliefs they want. However, observant catholics believe that heaven is a real place and that baptism is required to cleanse the soul of babies of Original Sin.

Great, thanks. I'll take that as "gospel" then so to speak. Of course there have been some churlish posters suggesting some Catholics don't know their own religion etc. etc., but I think that's just one person who never adds anything substantive to the conversation.

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Make a new thread? Each thread should have a topic. Pretend you have kids and they asked you about going to heaven, and you don’t know what to tell them.
Of course you don’t say their ages, or what religion you are, or what you have previously told your own kids about heaven. You just want some internet strangers to advise you.

?? What's wrong with that? Where would DCUM be without people asking internet strangers for advice?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Make a new thread? Each thread should have a topic. Pretend you have kids and they asked you about going to heaven, and you don’t know what to tell them.
Of course you don’t say their ages, or what religion you are, or what you have previously told your own kids about heaven. You just want some internet strangers to advise you.

?? What's wrong with that? Where would DCUM be without people asking internet strangers for advice?

You take advice from internet strangers about religion? How do you know if the strangers are telling you correct information?

What else do you do in your life, off the advice of internet forums?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Make a new thread? Each thread should have a topic. Pretend you have kids and they asked you about going to heaven, and you don’t know what to tell them.
Of course you don’t say their ages, or what religion you are, or what you have previously told your own kids about heaven. You just want some internet strangers to advise you.

?? What's wrong with that? Where would DCUM be without people asking internet strangers for advice?

You take advice from internet strangers about religion? How do you know if the strangers are telling you correct information?

What else do you do in your life, off the advice of internet forums?

There has been some good information on this thread. You should be less cynical. Happy Sunday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Make a new thread? Each thread should have a topic. Pretend you have kids and they asked you about going to heaven, and you don’t know what to tell them.
Of course you don’t say their ages, or what religion you are, or what you have previously told your own kids about heaven. You just want some internet strangers to advise you.

?? What's wrong with that? Where would DCUM be without people asking internet strangers for advice?

You take advice from internet strangers about religion? How do you know if the strangers are telling you correct information?

What else do you do in your life, off the advice of internet forums?

There has been some good information on this thread. You should be less cynical. Happy Sunday.

Ok, which post are you picking to base your belief in the sacrament of baptism on? Who convinced you in a paragraph or less, they know the truth?

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Anonymous wrote:I can't wrap my mind around this. If we commit to the Creed that "all those who believe in God shall not perish but have eternal life," what happens to those who are not Baptized? I guess that is the whole basis for proselytizing, to make sure everyone can go to heaven, right? But if I have problem believing that God is so vengeful and would really fault babies for their parents' decisions, then it seems hypocritical to baptize my child. I don't want to commit to something in a ceremony that I don't fully endorse.

Where does that leave me? Anyone else struggle with this?

How old is your child, op? What religion are you?

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Comments are conflicting because beliefs are conflicting and people can hold whatever beliefs they want. However, observant catholics believe that heaven is a real place and that baptism is required to cleanse the soul of babies of Original Sin.

That’s fine for you to believe, but don’t expect to be able to state your belief and not expect others to express theirs equally. That’s why, as one poster pointed out prior, it’s might be best to say “it’s a ritual of my religion” and leave it at that if you don’t want debate.

If you welcome honest debate and discussion, then by all means state the full breadth of your beliefs. Just don’t expect an echo chamber here.

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Comments are conflicting because beliefs are conflicting and people can hold whatever beliefs they want. However, observant catholics believe that heaven is a real place and that baptism is required to cleanse the soul of babies of Original Sin.

That’s fine for you to believe, but don’t expect to be able to state your belief and not expect others to express theirs equally. That’s why, as one poster pointed out prior, it’s might be best to say “it’s a ritual of my religion” and leave it at that if you don’t want debate.

If you welcome honest debate and discussion, then by all means state the full breadth of your beliefs. Just don’t expect an echo chamber here.

But do expect fake posts and trolls, they make up a large percentage of the discussion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

pp's self-description

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

pp's self-description

No, not at all. I know my religion, the role baptism plays in my chosen religion, and my kids are real. Although discussion is why we are all here, I don’t base my religious choices on the opinions of others, the choices of others, etc. If I have a question, I ask that question based on truth and real thought, not fake scenarios.

I suspect you are op, based on your frequent posts. Sorry you feel so attacked and are trying to denigrate others because you’ve been called out. Maybe ask questions authentically and be clear about your motives.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Make a new thread? Each thread should have a topic. Pretend you have kids and they asked you about going to heaven, and you don’t know what to tell them.
Of course you don’t say their ages, or what religion you are, or what you have previously told your own kids about heaven. You just want some internet strangers to advise you.

?? What's wrong with that? Where would DCUM be without people asking internet strangers for advice?

You take advice from internet strangers about religion? How do you know if the strangers are telling you correct information?

What else do you do in your life, off the advice of internet forums?

There has been some good information on this thread. You should be less cynical. Happy Sunday.

There are plenty of other sources of information about Catholicism, incl this one https://catholicstraightanswers.com/what-is-heaven/ and any catholic priest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

pp's self-description

No, not at all. I know my religion, the role baptism plays in my chosen religion, and my kids are real. Although discussion is why we are all here, I don’t base my religious choices on the opinions of others, the choices of others, etc. If I have a question, I ask that question based on truth and real thought, not fake scenarios.

I suspect you are op, based on your frequent posts. Sorry you feel so attacked and are trying to denigrate others because you’ve been called out. Maybe ask questions authentically and be clear about your motives.

Not OP, and you have just acknowledged that you are the pp referred to in the quoted post.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

pp's self-description

No, not at all. I know my religion, the role baptism plays in my chosen religion, and my kids are real. Although discussion is why we are all here, I don’t base my religious choices on the opinions of others, the choices of others, etc. If I have a question, I ask that question based on truth and real thought, not fake scenarios.

I suspect you are op, based on your frequent posts. Sorry you feel so attacked and are trying to denigrate others because you’ve been called out. Maybe ask questions authentically and be clear about your motives.

Not OP, and you have just acknowledged that you are the pp referred to in the quoted post.

Yes, I am being called a troll and am not. I don’t need to pretend I am something I am not to discuss religion. op, absent and never returning, does.

Truth is important.

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Make a new thread? Each thread should have a topic. Pretend you have kids and they asked you about going to heaven, and you don’t know what to tell them.
Of course you don’t say their ages, or what religion you are, or what you have previously told your own kids about heaven. You just want some internet strangers to advise you.

?? What's wrong with that? Where would DCUM be without people asking internet strangers for advice?

You take advice from internet strangers about religion? How do you know if the strangers are telling you correct information?

What else do you do in your life, off the advice of internet forums?

There has been some good information on this thread. You should be less cynical. Happy Sunday.

There are plenty of other sources of information about Catholicism, incl this one https://catholicstraightanswers.com/what-is-heaven/ and any catholic priest.

The atheists and anti-theists who constantly post and troll here don’t care about actually having a correct and complete source for their questions. They just want to play gotcha and lie to the few earnest believers who try to answer their questions.

It’s their hobby.

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Make a new thread? Each thread should have a topic. Pretend you have kids and they asked you about going to heaven, and you don’t know what to tell them.
Of course you don’t say their ages, or what religion you are, or what you have previously told your own kids about heaven. You just want some internet strangers to advise you.

?? What's wrong with that? Where would DCUM be without people asking internet strangers for advice?

You take advice from internet strangers about religion? How do you know if the strangers are telling you correct information?

What else do you do in your life, off the advice of internet forums?

There has been some good information on this thread. You should be less cynical. Happy Sunday.

There are plenty of other sources of information about Catholicism, incl this one https://catholicstraightanswers.com/what-is-heaven/ and any catholic priest.

The atheists and anti-theists who constantly post and troll here don’t care about actually having a correct and complete source for their questions. They just want to play gotcha and lie to the few earnest believers who try to answer their questions.

It’s their hobby.

Just checked the above link and it is not an atheist site. It appears to be a Catholic site, quoting scripture and catholic clergy.