Does Baptism mean that you those who are not Baptized won't go to heaven?

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So we're all agreed there's no actual place called heaven? I just wonder where Jesus went when he was bodily resurrected. If there's no actual place called heaven, where did he go?

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all agreed there's no actual place called heaven? I just wonder where Jesus went when he was bodily resurrected. If there's no actual place called heaven, where did he go?

Plenty of people believe in heaven.

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all agreed there's no actual place called heaven? I just wonder where Jesus went when he was bodily resurrected. If there's no actual place called heaven, where did he go?

Plenty of people believe in heaven.

do you mean like several the posters above said "being with God" -- whatever that means. Or something else?

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So we're all agreed there's no actual place called heaven? I just wonder where Jesus went when he was bodily resurrected. If there's no actual place called heaven, where did he go?

Oh goody, the poster who pretends some great truth has been uncovered here and we are all in agreement is rearing their deluded head again.

Can we all agree that fake posts with an op that poses a question about their non-existent children are lame, boring, and the op should find something better to do?

Op’s premise was flawed, they need to educate themselves about baptism and not troll people for their entertainment.

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all agreed there's no actual place called heaven? I just wonder where Jesus went when he was bodily resurrected. If there's no actual place called heaven, where did he go?

Oh goody, the poster who pretends some great truth has been uncovered here and we are all in agreement is rearing their deluded head again.

Can we all agree that fake posts with an op that poses a question about their non-existent children are lame, boring, and the op should find something better to do?

Op’s premise was flawed, they need to educate themselves about baptism and not troll people for their entertainment.

OP came here to educate themselves about baptism. Have you helped do that? If not, why are you even following this thread?

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all agreed there's no actual place called heaven? I just wonder where Jesus went when he was bodily resurrected. If there's no actual place called heaven, where did he go?

Oh goody, the poster who pretends some great truth has been uncovered here and we are all in agreement is rearing their deluded head again.

Can we all agree that fake posts with an op that poses a question about their non-existent children are lame, boring, and the op should find something better to do?

Op’s premise was flawed, they need to educate themselves about baptism and not troll people for their entertainment.

But you never say why. Always with the aspersions, never adding anything substantive to the conversation.

[Anonymous]

It’s just a ritual like any other religious ritual. That’s all.

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So we're all agreed there's no actual place called heaven? I just wonder where Jesus went when he was bodily resurrected. If there's no actual place called heaven, where did he go?

Oh goody, the poster who pretends some great truth has been uncovered here and we are all in agreement is rearing their deluded head again.

Can we all agree that fake posts with an op that poses a question about their non-existent children are lame, boring, and the op should find something better to do?

Op’s premise was flawed, they need to educate themselves about baptism and not troll people for their entertainment.

But you never say why. Always with the aspersions, never adding anything substantive to the conversation.

Op’s imaginary kids will be fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't wrap my mind around this. If we commit to the Creed that "all those who believe in God shall not perish but have eternal life," what happens to those who are not Baptized? I guess that is the whole basis for proselytizing, to make sure everyone can go to heaven, right? But if I have problem believing that God is so vengeful and would really fault babies for their parents' decisions, then it seems hypocritical to baptize my child. I don't want to commit to something in a ceremony that I don't fully endorse.

Where does that leave me? Anyone else struggle with this?

My spouse is Catholic and insisted our kid be baptized. I went along with it because I see no real harm in it. The kid is an adult now and is not at all religious. Frankly, I don't see what difference it makes one way or the other.

It doesn't make any difference to you and it had no effect - or not the desired one - on your kid. But it meant something to your wife at the time. In her mind, the kid would've gone to heaven if it died while still a kid.

Again, the kid doesn't get into heaven. Something called the soul does. But you are right, maybe the point is for the living to have comfort that baptism gets their loved ones into heaven regardless of whether it does or not.

As I understand it, baptism is just symbolic anyway. Washing away the "sins." Like a helpless baby (who can't consent to this ritual) has any sins.

In catholicism, everyone is born with original sin - because of Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden.

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Comments are conflicting because beliefs are conflicting and people can hold whatever beliefs they want. However, observant catholics believe that heaven is a real place and that baptism is required to cleanse the soul of babies of Original Sin.

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Anonymous wrote:If these posters are Catholic, I’m starting to realize that the Jesuit Priest who taught my theology courses at Georgetown was right. So many Catholics are ignorant about their own religion.

I don’t think these posters are Catholic. You can tell they are trolls and/or atheists, posing fake questions about fake children and then adding wikipedia information ‼️ to the thread. It’s such a waste of time.

Op has never returned, she’s SO CONCERNED, but never returns.

By "Fake quetins about fake children" do you mean a hypothetical to try to understand what the person I am interacting with is saying?

Do you think this forum should be just for posters who all believe the same thing to share their belief? Debate or discussion not allowed?

Honest debate is great. Made up posts are a waste of time. Truth is important.

What is "made up" about any of the posts? Seriously, I don't get it. This isn't even about factual details, but discussion and belief.

Really? So op has kids she’s horribly conflicted about baptizing? She’s never once come back past the first post to ask any more questions or tell us more about her issues with her kids and baptism.

That’s what is made up. At the core, it’s some troll pretending to have kids and issues with baptizing them. That’s the problem. There are no kids and op has no one to baptize. Without the fake kids, op is just a lonely, sad person who spends all their time trolling here…and it’s a pattern of posting here. A made up religious situation involving kids, and op posts once and a debate ensues.

This thread was supposed to be about baptism. Then it veered off into is heaven real? Where did Jesus go after his death? Where did the souls in purgatory go? Then: we agree heaven isn’t real, right guys? Right? RIGHT!!

Troll troll troll.

No one said heaven isn't real. That pp said it's not a real "place." So what is it? What's the nature of it? Several posters have tried to address this but the comments have been conflicting.

Make a new thread? Each thread should have a topic. Pretend you have kids and they asked you about going to heaven, and you don’t know what to tell them.
Of course you don’t say their ages, or what religion you are, or what you have previously told your own kids about heaven. You just want some internet strangers to advise you.