Does Baptism mean that you those who are not Baptized won't go to heaven?

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PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Telling a random person on a forum “I’ll pray for you” is absolutely arrogant. The audacity of that person.

It’s absolutely arrogant to tell a religious person their faith is meaningless. Yet you atheists do it here all the time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Our opinions differ. In my opinion, the religious pp was not arrogant at first - was simply doing what came naturally. She became arrogant after the non-religious pp told her they didn't want to be prayed for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Telling a random person on a forum “I’ll pray for you” is absolutely arrogant. The audacity of that person.

It’s absolutely arrogant to tell a religious person their faith is meaningless. Yet you atheists do it here all the time.

Stop trying to change the topic of conversation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Our opinions differ. In my opinion, the religious pp was not arrogant at first - was simply doing what came naturally. She became arrogant after the non-religious pp told her they didn't want to be prayed for.

I’m the PP who was prayed for. It’s not that I’m not religious — I’m Jewish, and we don’t tell people “I’ll pray for you.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Telling a random person on a forum “I’ll pray for you” is absolutely arrogant. The audacity of that person.

It’s absolutely arrogant to tell a religious person their faith is meaningless. Yet you atheists do it here all the time.

Atheist pp asked not to be prayed for. Pp with religious differences express them here regularly, including atheists.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Our opinions differ. In my opinion, the religious pp was not arrogant at first - was simply doing what came naturally. She became arrogant after the non-religious pp told her they didn't want to be prayed for.

I’m the PP who was prayed for. It’s not that I’m not religious — I’m Jewish, and we don’t tell people “I’ll pray for you.”

Thanks for the clarification.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The pp who offered a prayer didn’t know an atheist was posting. She thought it was a conflicted person seeking answers about religious topics.

False.

Anonymous wrote:That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

How about when an atheists asks them not to, and they say, "I will if I want", can they be unhappy then?

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if atheists wouldn’t pretend to be questioning or conflicted Christians to argue online, they wouldn’t get accidentally offered prayers.

That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

No Atheist has been offended here "when a Christian says something religious". Your persecution complex is really extreme and unattractive.

Also, everything you posted is untrue!

+ one. It reminds me of the past when people of racial minorities were called "uppity" simply for expecting to be treated respectfully. (Heard about the sit-ins at lunch counters in the 60's?)

People in the majority didn't understand it at first and maybe some still don't, but behavior has changed, and in some cases attitudes as well.

Comparing the many evils of racism to your position as an atheist being prayed for by some anonymous rando on the internet seems like a real stretch. Unless you like being a victim.

It’s a very inaccurate comparison. It’s honestly delusional.

+1. It’s honestly appalling. Comparing being prayed for, by somebody who probably thought pp was religious, to victims of actual racial discrimination is incredibly tone deaf and insulting to minorities.

Check yourself, angry atheist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Telling a random person on a forum “I’ll pray for you” is absolutely arrogant. The audacity of that person.

It’s absolutely arrogant to tell a religious person their faith is meaningless. Yet you atheists do it here all the time.

Stop trying to change the topic of conversation.

Stop trying to pretend you don’t understand all these very simple analogies. If somebody dislikes your sexual orientation, shirt, house, car, or prays for you, this is NOT discrimination. None of this actually hurts you, unless they refuse to let you marry, harm you physically, refuse to sell you a house, profile you at traffic stops, etc.

Please. You are not a “victim” no matter how much you try to associate yourself with actual victims and the civil rights movement. Your attempts to do so are disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Telling a random person on a forum “I’ll pray for you” is absolutely arrogant. The audacity of that person.

It’s absolutely arrogant to tell a religious person their faith is meaningless. Yet you atheists do it here all the time.

Atheist pp asked not to be prayed for. Pp with religious differences express them here regularly, including atheists.

Please show us the last time a religious person attacked an atheist for anything besides trolling. We’ll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pp who offered a prayer didn’t know an atheist was posting. She thought it was a conflicted person seeking answers about religious topics.

False.

Anonymous wrote:That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

How about when an atheists asks them not to, and they say, "I will if I want", can they be unhappy then?

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if atheists wouldn’t pretend to be questioning or conflicted Christians to argue online, they wouldn’t get accidentally offered prayers.

That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

No Atheist has been offended here "when a Christian says something religious". Your persecution complex is really extreme and unattractive.

Also, everything you posted is untrue!

+ one. It reminds me of the past when people of racial minorities were called "uppity" simply for expecting to be treated respectfully. (Heard about the sit-ins at lunch counters in the 60's?)

People in the majority didn't understand it at first and maybe some still don't, but behavior has changed, and in some cases attitudes as well.

Comparing the many evils of racism to your position as an atheist being prayed for by some anonymous rando on the internet seems like a real stretch. Unless you like being a victim.

It’s a very inaccurate comparison. It’s honestly delusional.

+1. It’s honestly appalling. Comparing being prayed for, by somebody who probably thought pp was religious, to victims of actual racial discrimination is incredibly tone deaf and insulting to minorities.

Check yourself, angry atheist.

It's good to see racial discrimination taken so seriously. Hopefully, someday discrimination against atheists will be taken seriously too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Telling a random person on a forum “I’ll pray for you” is absolutely arrogant. The audacity of that person.

It’s absolutely arrogant to tell a religious person their faith is meaningless. Yet you atheists do it here all the time.

Stop trying to change the topic of conversation.

Stop trying to pretend you don’t understand all these very simple analogies. If somebody dislikes your sexual orientation, shirt, house, car, or prays for you, this is NOT discrimination. None of this actually hurts you, unless they refuse to let you marry, harm you physically, refuse to sell you a house, profile you at traffic stops, etc.

Please. You are not a “victim” no matter how much you try to associate yourself with actual victims and the civil rights movement. Your attempts to do so are disgusting.

I’m not the person who made that comparison.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pp who offered a prayer didn’t know an atheist was posting. She thought it was a conflicted person seeking answers about religious topics.

False.

Anonymous wrote:That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

How about when an atheists asks them not to, and they say, "I will if I want", can they be unhappy then?

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if atheists wouldn’t pretend to be questioning or conflicted Christians to argue online, they wouldn’t get accidentally offered prayers.

That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

No Atheist has been offended here "when a Christian says something religious". Your persecution complex is really extreme and unattractive.

Also, everything you posted is untrue!

+ one. It reminds me of the past when people of racial minorities were called "uppity" simply for expecting to be treated respectfully. (Heard about the sit-ins at lunch counters in the 60's?)

People in the majority didn't understand it at first and maybe some still don't, but behavior has changed, and in some cases attitudes as well.

Comparing the many evils of racism to your position as an atheist being prayed for by some anonymous rando on the internet seems like a real stretch. Unless you like being a victim.

It’s a very inaccurate comparison. It’s honestly delusional.

+1. It’s honestly appalling. Comparing being prayed for, by somebody who probably thought pp was religious, to victims of actual racial discrimination is incredibly tone deaf and insulting to minorities.

Check yourself, angry atheist.

It's good to see racial discrimination taken so seriously. Hopefully, someday discrimination against atheists will be taken seriously too.

Stop pretending being prayed for by some rando on the internet is “discrimination,” or that it comes anywhere near the horrors of racial discrimination.

This is, frankly, horrifying. Get over yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Telling a random person on a forum “I’ll pray for you” is absolutely arrogant. The audacity of that person.

It’s absolutely arrogant to tell a religious person their faith is meaningless. Yet you atheists do it here all the time.

Stop trying to change the topic of conversation.

Stop trying to pretend you don’t understand all these very simple analogies. If somebody dislikes your sexual orientation, shirt, house, car, or prays for you, this is NOT discrimination. None of this actually hurts you, unless they refuse to let you marry, harm you physically, refuse to sell you a house, profile you at traffic stops, etc.

Please. You are not a “victim” no matter how much you try to associate yourself with actual victims and the civil rights movement. Your attempts to do so are disgusting.

I’m not the person who made that comparison.

Do you think the comparison is apt?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pp who offered a prayer didn’t know an atheist was posting. She thought it was a conflicted person seeking answers about religious topics.

False.

Anonymous wrote:That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

How about when an atheists asks them not to, and they say, "I will if I want", can they be unhappy then?

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if atheists wouldn’t pretend to be questioning or conflicted Christians to argue online, they wouldn’t get accidentally offered prayers.

That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

No Atheist has been offended here "when a Christian says something religious". Your persecution complex is really extreme and unattractive.

Also, everything you posted is untrue!

+ one. It reminds me of the past when people of racial minorities were called "uppity" simply for expecting to be treated respectfully. (Heard about the sit-ins at lunch counters in the 60's?)

People in the majority didn't understand it at first and maybe some still don't, but behavior has changed, and in some cases attitudes as well.

Comparing the many evils of racism to your position as an atheist being prayed for by some anonymous rando on the internet seems like a real stretch. Unless you like being a victim.

It’s a very inaccurate comparison. It’s honestly delusional.

+1. It’s honestly appalling. Comparing being prayed for, by somebody who probably thought pp was religious, to victims of actual racial discrimination is incredibly tone deaf and insulting to minorities.

Check yourself, angry atheist.

It's good to see racial discrimination taken so seriously. Hopefully, someday discrimination against atheists will be taken seriously too.

Stop pretending being prayed for by some rando on the internet is “discrimination,” or that it comes anywhere near the horrors of racial discrimination.

This is, frankly, horrifying. Get over yourself.

It's not nearly as bad as racial discrimination, but it is discrimination, nonetheless.

And it's hardly horrifying -- it's simply someone expressing their opinion on an Internet forum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The pp who offered a prayer didn’t know an atheist was posting. She thought it was a conflicted person seeking answers about religious topics.

False.

Anonymous wrote:That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

How about when an atheists asks them not to, and they say, "I will if I want", can they be unhappy then?

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if atheists wouldn’t pretend to be questioning or conflicted Christians to argue online, they wouldn’t get accidentally offered prayers.

That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

No Atheist has been offended here "when a Christian says something religious". Your persecution complex is really extreme and unattractive.

Also, everything you posted is untrue!

+ one. It reminds me of the past when people of racial minorities were called "uppity" simply for expecting to be treated respectfully. (Heard about the sit-ins at lunch counters in the 60's?)

People in the majority didn't understand it at first and maybe some still don't, but behavior has changed, and in some cases attitudes as well.

Comparing the many evils of racism to your position as an atheist being prayed for by some anonymous rando on the internet seems like a real stretch. Unless you like being a victim.

It’s a very inaccurate comparison. It’s honestly delusional.

+1. It’s honestly appalling. Comparing being prayed for, by somebody who probably thought pp was religious, to victims of actual racial discrimination is incredibly tone deaf and insulting to minorities.

Check yourself, angry atheist.

It's good to see racial discrimination taken so seriously. Hopefully, someday discrimination against atheists will be taken seriously too.

Oh look, a white atheist wants to pretend-play at being a victim.