Does Baptism mean that you those who are not Baptized won't go to heaven?

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Anonymous wrote:The pp who offered a prayer didn’t know an atheist was posting. She thought it was a conflicted person seeking answers about religious topics.

False.

Anonymous wrote:That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

How about when an atheists asks them not to, and they say, "I will if I want", can they be unhappy then?

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps if atheists wouldn’t pretend to be questioning or conflicted Christians to argue online, they wouldn’t get accidentally offered prayers.

That’s the issue- many atheists troll here and then get offended when a Christian says something remotely religious. It’s is the forum listing, try not to be so sensitive, trolling atheists.

No Atheist has been offended here "when a Christian says something religious". Your persecution complex is really extreme and unattractive.

Also, everything you posted is untrue!

+ one. It reminds me of the past when people of racial minorities were called "uppity" simply for expecting to be treated respectfully. (Heard about the sit-ins at lunch counters in the 60's?)

People in the majority didn't understand it at first and maybe some still don't, but behavior has changed, and in some cases attitudes as well.

Comparing the many evils of racism to your position as an atheist being prayed for by some anonymous rando on the internet seems like a real stretch. Unless you like being a victim.

It’s a very inaccurate comparison. It’s honestly delusional.

+1. It’s honestly appalling. Comparing being prayed for, by somebody who probably thought pp was religious, to victims of actual racial discrimination is incredibly tone deaf and insulting to minorities.

Check yourself, angry atheist.

It's good to see racial discrimination taken so seriously. Hopefully, someday discrimination against atheists will be taken seriously too.

Oh look, a white atheist wants to pretend-play at being a victim.

Oh look, anonymous internet posters make disparaging remarks to other anonymous internet posters.

[Anonymous]

Just found this old thread from 2011 on "Why don't you believe in God" https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/176618.page

As I've read so far, it's just a bunch of non-believers responding to the question with little conversation and no snark.

Quite interesting and no "angry atheists" so far.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't wrap my mind around this. If we commit to the Creed that "all those who believe in God shall not perish but have eternal life," what happens to those who are not Baptized? I guess that is the whole basis for proselytizing, to make sure everyone can go to heaven, right? But if I have problem believing that God is so vengeful and would really fault babies for their parents' decisions, then it seems hypocritical to baptize my child. I don't want to commit to something in a ceremony that I don't fully endorse.

Where does that leave me? Anyone else struggle with this?

Our church (LDS) believes:

that Christ set the example for baptism (it is necessary);

that all children who die before the age of accountability for their sins (8) and adults who do not reach accountability because of disabilities go automatically to paradise (the celestial kingdom mentioned in the New Testament.) For adults who never knew about Christ and baptism, or who were not baptized before they died, we provide proxy baptism in their name, and believe that they can accept or reject the ordinance in the afterlife.

We agree that our loving God would not leave the majority of people who have lived on Earth without a solution for baptism and progression.

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PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Our opinions differ. In my opinion, the religious pp was not arrogant at first - was simply doing what came naturally. She became arrogant after the non-religious pp told her they didn't want to be prayed for.

I’m the PP who was prayed for. It’s not that I’m not religious — I’m Jewish, and we don’t tell people “I’ll pray for you.”

Jewish people don't pray for others????

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PS. Maybe if you explained how you are hurt if some random, anonymous person on the internet prays for you, that would help us understand your anger.

I’m still interested in an answer to this question.

I’m not PP, but I am the person who was prayed for. I dislike the arrogance of praying for someone who didn’t ask for it. I dislike the notion that someone thinks I need some sort of divine intervention.

+1. although I will say that while the religious pp came across as arrogant to me, as well, it's possible that they didn't see themselves that way, as offering prayer is widely perceived to be a benevolent act. In contrast, rejecting a prayer is still often perceived as being rude.

Hopefully, this is changing.

In no way did the religious pp come across as arrogant.

Our opinions differ. In my opinion, the religious pp was not arrogant at first - was simply doing what came naturally. She became arrogant after the non-religious pp told her they didn't want to be prayed for.

I’m the PP who was prayed for. It’s not that I’m not religious — I’m Jewish, and we don’t tell people “I’ll pray for you.”

Jewish people don't pray for others????

We have general prayers for peace and things like that, but we do not tell individual people that we will pray for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Just found this old thread from 2011 on "Why don't you believe in God" https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/176618.page

As I've read so far, it's just a bunch of non-believers responding to the question with little conversation and no snark.

Quite interesting and no "angry atheists" so far.

You had to go back to 2011 to find a thread where there were no angry atheists?

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Anonymous wrote:Just found this old thread from 2011 on "Why don't you believe in God" https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/176618.page

As I've read so far, it's just a bunch of non-believers responding to the question with little conversation and no snark.

Quite interesting and no "angry atheists" so far.

You had to go back to 2011 to find a thread where there were no angry atheists?

lol

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Anonymous wrote:Just found this old thread from 2011 on "Why don't you believe in God" https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/176618.page

As I've read so far, it's just a bunch of non-believers responding to the question with little conversation and no snark.

Quite interesting and no "angry atheists" so far.

You had to go back to 2011 to find a thread where there were no angry atheists?

The 2011 thread doesn't prove that there are no angry atheists and wasn't meant to --it discusses how some people became atheists. I found it when thinking about starting a thread on that subject and saw that it had already been done.

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Anonymous wrote:Just found this old thread from 2011 on "Why don't you believe in God" https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/176618.page

As I've read so far, it's just a bunch of non-believers responding to the question with little conversation and no snark.

Quite interesting and no "angry atheists" so far.

You had to go back to 2011 to find a thread where there were no angry atheists?

The 2011 thread doesn't prove that there are no angry atheists and wasn't meant to --it discusses how some people became atheists. I found it when thinking about starting a thread on that subject and saw that it had already been done.

So why was it relevant to bring it over to this thread?

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Anonymous wrote:Just found this old thread from 2011 on "Why don't you believe in God" https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/176618.page

As I've read so far, it's just a bunch of non-believers responding to the question with little conversation and no snark.

Quite interesting and no "angry atheists" so far.

You had to go back to 2011 to find a thread where there were no angry atheists?

The 2011 thread doesn't prove that there are no angry atheists and wasn't meant to --it discusses how some people became atheists. I found it when thinking about starting a thread on that subject and saw that it had already been done.

So why was it relevant to bring it over to this thread?

well why not? This thread went off the rails about 5 pages ago. It was supposed to be about baptism.

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why does every threads have to end up discussing atheists?

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Anonymous wrote:why does every threads have to end up discussing atheists?

often because a religious person complains about atheists expressing their opinions here.

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Anonymous wrote:why does every threads have to end up discussing atheists?

often because a religious person complains about atheists expressing their opinions here.

Why do atheists care that I am religious?

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Anonymous wrote:why does every threads have to end up discussing atheists?

often because a religious person complains about atheists expressing their opinions here.

Why do atheists care that I am religious?

That question doesn't follow from the past statement and is perhaps a question for a separate thread.

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Anonymous wrote:why does every threads have to end up discussing atheists?

often because a religious person complains about atheists expressing their opinions here.

Why do atheists care that I am religious?

That question doesn't follow from the past statement and is perhaps a question for a separate thread.

This thread is all over the place. It has many comments that don’t involve op’s post. Why is this one question needing a separate thread?