Mundo Verde parents, pls step in

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

you are not!

Former MV family here, we pulled DS out of PK3 and did not choose to return to K. I had seen all i needed to see. Academics were none existent. Parents had to protest for their children to learn. I heard from families in DS's PK cohort that their older MV children were not able to read well in either language.

nah. Anyone's IB would be better.

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For anyone who’s interested, the disgraced principal from MV Cook campus took a demotion and is now the Assistant Principal at Lee Montessori in Brookland.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

you are not!

Former MV family here, we pulled DS out of PK3 and did not choose to return to K. I had seen all i needed to see. Academics were none existent. Parents had to protest for their children to learn. I heard from families in DS's PK cohort that their older MV children were not able to read well in either language.

nah. Anyone's IB would be better.

This is the kind of information that prospective parents need to listen to when evaluating whether their children should attend schools. Look past immersion "offerings", the school's marketing push, etc--it's typically smoke and mirrors at many of these schools.

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The crime issue aside (not that it is not deeply concerning, you just can't blame the school for the neighborhood crime problems) People love to pretend that there isn't a single other school in this city that has been facing major challenges these past few years other than MV. For better or worse the MV parents were willing to put their shit in the streets last year in hopes of seeing the necessary changes. There are a lot of frustrated parents at many schools but they are more interested in protecting their schools reputations and putting on happy faces and I don't blame them one bit. And let's face it, DCUM loves nothing more than a pile on.

I am not parent at Cook but I am a parent at Calle 8 and it does (so far...) appear that the administration has taken these concerns seriously and have made changes to the benefit of the students and the teachers. I am sure there is much more work to be done and challenges in righting the ship but I do think think there is reasons to be hopeful about the future at MV.

Cue pile on and all the reasons why I am wrong and an idiot for keeping my kids at MV ✌️

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Anonymous wrote:The crime issue aside (not that it is not deeply concerning, you just can't blame the school for the neighborhood crime problems) People love to pretend that there isn't a single other school in this city that has been facing major challenges these past few years other than MV. For better or worse the MV parents were willing to put their shit in the streets last year in hopes of seeing the necessary changes. There are a lot of frustrated parents at many schools but they are more interested in protecting their schools reputations and putting on happy faces and I don't blame them one bit. And let's face it, DCUM loves nothing more than a pile on.

I am not parent at Cook but I am a parent at Calle 8 and it does (so far...) appear that the administration has taken these concerns seriously and have made changes to the benefit of the students and the teachers. I am sure there is much more work to be done and challenges in righting the ship but I do think think there is reasons to be hopeful about the future at MV.

Cue pile on and all the reasons why I am wrong and an idiot for keeping my kids at MV ✌️

I don't think it's crazy at all to attend Calle Ocho. PARCC scores came in pretty strong, and the neighborhood is nice. But P St... just wow. It's amazing how it has fallen from the pinnacle of desirability it once occupied.

Yes all schools have seen major challenges, but some are more major than others. Mundo and Two Rivers are struggling hard, while Inspired is chugging along, for example. Seaton and Garrison are growing and doing well. Langley opened a third Kindergarten and has more kids than ever before. The trouble Mundo is having is worse than at many other schools in the area.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

Nope. It's scary and there really aren't any good answers for you. I prefer to approach that block from the west if I have to walk along it, rather than from North Capitol.

+1. Use 1st St NW to get to school. If you are still uncomfortable you can ask to transfer to Calle 8 next year.

Don't listen to the people saying to not be excited, they are just mad that you didn't choose their school.

really? have you read this thread? with all the former MV parents outlining very real problems? This is coming from people on the outside. I live in this neighborhood, know went in with a lot of excitement, and then were so disappointed, and who have all since moved (mostly to better DCPS schools). they are much more upset about MV than anyone on the outside.

PP, there was a shooting on the first day of school at that location last year. Your fears are not paranoia:

https://georgetowner.com/articles/2022/08/29/crime-report-14/

People are telling PP not to be excited because of the school, however, PP is worried about the neighborhood, not the school. She already chose MV. She can transfer to Calle 8 next year.

People who leave MV go private (WIS) or move, they don't go back to their IB Title 1 school.

Or they stay living in the neighborhood and get in to Oyster-Adams or Bruce-Monroe.

I love how you included BM with OA, like they are the same, but they are not.

Nobody said they were the same. But they are both places that I've known people to switch to from MV.

I do NOT have a kid at any of these schools - mine's at a non-immersion Title I - but as someone who knows DCPS for professional reasons, I'd frankly consider Cleveland and Tyler over MV, given what I've heard from others' experiences at all three. (Consider, as in take a hard look and research, not consider as in definitely switch). Absolutely would go to Oyster or Bancroft over MV, probably B-M. (They need to change that acronym!)

We're at one of those schools and yes, kids switch from MV to our immersion DCPS every year. We have a new kid from MV in my second grader's class this year. You still get a few upper grade kids moving to MV for DCI, but since the DCI guarantee ended, there isn't the exodus after pre-K like previously. And yes, every family at a DCPS immersion in K and up is choosing that DCPS over MV. Too many unhappy stories on the playground to gamble with a school switch, even before the parent protests at the end of last year.

Are you at Oyster or Bancroft? We live inbounds for BM but do not attend. We know many neighbors that choose MV8.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

you are not!

Former MV family here, we pulled DS out of PK3 and did not choose to return to K. I had seen all i needed to see. Academics were none existent. Parents had to protest for their children to learn. I heard from families in DS's PK cohort that their older MV children were not able to read well in either language.

nah. Anyone's IB would be better.

You pulled your kid after prek3 because of the academics? What are the academic standards you think your child is missing out on?

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

you are not!

Former MV family here, we pulled DS out of PK3 and did not choose to return to K. I had seen all i needed to see. Academics were none existent. Parents had to protest for their children to learn. I heard from families in DS's PK cohort that their older MV children were not able to read well in either language.

nah. Anyone's IB would be better.

You pulled your kid after prek3 because of the academics? What are the academic standards you think your child is missing out on?

She wanted Larla eating paste in both English and Spanish.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

you are not!

Former MV family here, we pulled DS out of PK3 and did not choose to return to K. I had seen all i needed to see. Academics were none existent. Parents had to protest for their children to learn. I heard from families in DS's PK cohort that their older MV children were not able to read well in either language.

nah. Anyone's IB would be better.

You pulled your kid after prek3 because of the academics? What are the academic standards you think your child is missing out on?

Oh come on. People make PK3 decisions based on the quality of the upper grade academics all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

you are not!

Former MV family here, we pulled DS out of PK3 and did not choose to return to K. I had seen all i needed to see. Academics were none existent. Parents had to protest for their children to learn. I heard from families in DS's PK cohort that their older MV children were not able to read well in either language.

nah. Anyone's IB would be better.

You pulled your kid after prek3 because of the academics? What are the academic standards you think your child is missing out on?

Oh come on. People make PK3 decisions based on the quality of the upper grade academics all the time.

She is obviously a troll. She pulled the kid Out of pk3 and decided not to go back to K? That makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:DCI has also had teacher turnover this year.

And admin turnover.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

Nope. It's scary and there really aren't any good answers for you. I prefer to approach that block from the west if I have to walk along it, rather than from North Capitol.

+1. Use 1st St NW to get to school. If you are still uncomfortable you can ask to transfer to Calle 8 next year.

Don't listen to the people saying to not be excited, they are just mad that you didn't choose their school.

really? have you read this thread? with all the former MV parents outlining very real problems? This is coming from people on the outside. I live in this neighborhood, know went in with a lot of excitement, and then were so disappointed, and who have all since moved (mostly to better DCPS schools). they are much more upset about MV than anyone on the outside.

PP, there was a shooting on the first day of school at that location last year. Your fears are not paranoia:

https://georgetowner.com/articles/2022/08/29/crime-report-14/

People are telling PP not to be excited because of the school, however, PP is worried about the neighborhood, not the school. She already chose MV. She can transfer to Calle 8 next year.

People who leave MV go private (WIS) or move, they don't go back to their IB Title 1 school.

Or they stay living in the neighborhood and get in to Oyster-Adams or Bruce-Monroe.

I love how you included BM with OA, like they are the same, but they are not.

Nobody said they were the same. But they are both places that I've known people to switch to from MV.

I do NOT have a kid at any of these schools - mine's at a non-immersion Title I - but as someone who knows DCPS for professional reasons, I'd frankly consider Cleveland and Tyler over MV, given what I've heard from others' experiences at all three. (Consider, as in take a hard look and research, not consider as in definitely switch). Absolutely would go to Oyster or Bancroft over MV, probably B-M. (They need to change that acronym!)

We're at one of those schools and yes, kids switch from MV to our immersion DCPS every year. We have a new kid from MV in my second grader's class this year. You still get a few upper grade kids moving to MV for DCI, but since the DCI guarantee ended, there isn't the exodus after pre-K like previously. And yes, every family at a DCPS immersion in K and up is choosing that DCPS over MV. Too many unhappy stories on the playground to gamble with a school switch, even before the parent protests at the end of last year.

Are you at Oyster or Bancroft? We live inbounds for BM but do not attend. We know many neighbors that choose MV8.

I’m an extracurricular volunteer leader and over the years have had kids from BM, Marie Reed, Bancroft, MV, DCB, LAMB, etc. Believe me that there is no consistent difference between the kids I work with between these schools. There are strong, average, and weaker students from all of these schools. I am 100% certain after dozens of kids over close to 10 years of experience that there is really not as much of a difference academically at the elementary school level as DC parents think, which is also what the data on outcomes for higher SES kids shows.

There is a notable difference in the private school kids though. Their writing and math is much better in middle elementary. Reading, science, and general world knowledge (like social studies type knowledge) is very individual and dependent on the kid and family.

I don’t think middle or high school is too late for any kids to “catch up” and it all even out, but I’m also not sure that any of the public middle school options (namely Deal/JR and DCI) are good enough to do that either. They seem like more of the same - namely fine enough, but not enough to push the brightest kids to achieve fully to their potential.

Ultimately I tell parents to do what they want, but not worry too much about elementary. Take those years to figure out what outcomes you really want, then make choices by middle school. But don’t think you can really “win” the DC school game without compromising.

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

Nope. It's scary and there really aren't any good answers for you. I prefer to approach that block from the west if I have to walk along it, rather than from North Capitol.

+1. Use 1st St NW to get to school. If you are still uncomfortable you can ask to transfer to Calle 8 next year.

Don't listen to the people saying to not be excited, they are just mad that you didn't choose their school.

really? have you read this thread? with all the former MV parents outlining very real problems? This is coming from people on the outside. I live in this neighborhood, know went in with a lot of excitement, and then were so disappointed, and who have all since moved (mostly to better DCPS schools). they are much more upset about MV than anyone on the outside.

PP, there was a shooting on the first day of school at that location last year. Your fears are not paranoia:

https://georgetowner.com/articles/2022/08/29/crime-report-14/

People are telling PP not to be excited because of the school, however, PP is worried about the neighborhood, not the school. She already chose MV. She can transfer to Calle 8 next year.

People who leave MV go private (WIS) or move, they don't go back to their IB Title 1 school.

Or they stay living in the neighborhood and get in to Oyster-Adams or Bruce-Monroe.

I love how you included BM with OA, like they are the same, but they are not.

Nobody said they were the same. But they are both places that I've known people to switch to from MV.

I do NOT have a kid at any of these schools - mine's at a non-immersion Title I - but as someone who knows DCPS for professional reasons, I'd frankly consider Cleveland and Tyler over MV, given what I've heard from others' experiences at all three. (Consider, as in take a hard look and research, not consider as in definitely switch). Absolutely would go to Oyster or Bancroft over MV, probably B-M. (They need to change that acronym!)

We're at one of those schools and yes, kids switch from MV to our immersion DCPS every year. We have a new kid from MV in my second grader's class this year. You still get a few upper grade kids moving to MV for DCI, but since the DCI guarantee ended, there isn't the exodus after pre-K like previously. And yes, every family at a DCPS immersion in K and up is choosing that DCPS over MV. Too many unhappy stories on the playground to gamble with a school switch, even before the parent protests at the end of last year.

Are you at Oyster or Bancroft? We live inbounds for BM but do not attend. We know many neighbors that choose MV8.

I’m an extracurricular volunteer leader and over the years have had kids from BM, Marie Reed, Bancroft, MV, DCB, LAMB, etc. Believe me that there is no consistent difference between the kids I work with between these schools. There are strong, average, and weaker students from all of these schools. I am 100% certain after dozens of kids over close to 10 years of experience that there is really not as much of a difference academically at the elementary school level as DC parents think, which is also what the data on outcomes for higher SES kids shows.

There is a notable difference in the private school kids though. Their writing and math is much better in middle elementary. Reading, science, and general world knowledge (like social studies type knowledge) is very individual and dependent on the kid and family.

I don’t think middle or high school is too late for any kids to “catch up” and it all even out, but I’m also not sure that any of the public middle school options (namely Deal/JR and DCI) are good enough to do that either. They seem like more of the same - namely fine enough, but not enough to push the brightest kids to achieve fully to their potential.

Ultimately I tell parents to do what they want, but not worry too much about elementary. Take those years to figure out what outcomes you really want, then make choices by middle school. But don’t think you can really “win” the DC school game without compromising.

What? Are you like a Cub Scout master or something?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

you are not!

Former MV family here, we pulled DS out of PK3 and did not choose to return to K. I had seen all i needed to see. Academics were none existent. Parents had to protest for their children to learn. I heard from families in DS's PK cohort that their older MV children were not able to read well in either language.

nah. Anyone's IB would be better.

What were they focusing on instead? Or were they just letting the kids play all day or something?

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Anonymous wrote:Hi! We are starting this year at mundo verde… I am excited about the school but concerned about the neighbourhood. I would like to hear from parents that were here before if they ever felt nervous in the area where the school is. Every time I go I feel my heart is in my hand because of all the people doing drugs in the street. Im I being paranoid?

you are not!

Former MV family here, we pulled DS out of PK3 and did not choose to return to K. I had seen all i needed to see. Academics were none existent. Parents had to protest for their children to learn. I heard from families in DS's PK cohort that their older MV children were not able to read well in either language.

nah. Anyone's IB would be better.

You pulled your kid after prek3 because of the academics? What are the academic standards you think your child is missing out on?

She wanted Larla eating paste in both English and Spanish.

Now I have diet coke on my keyboard, so thanks for that. I literally snorted.