Driving teenagers from a party to another house after they have been drinking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Wut?
The drinking age is arbitrary, as are many laws. There is nothing that magically happens on your 21st birthday to make it moral.

Well it’s not moral at 17 simply because a bunch of lazy parents say so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Wut?
The drinking age is arbitrary, as are many laws. There is nothing that magically happens on your 21st birthday to make it moral.

Well it’s not moral at 17 simply because a bunch of lazy parents say so.

What is immoral about drinking?
You have messed up values.

[Anonymous]

Just let it go, you didn't do anything wrong. At least they called for a ride and didn't drive drunk. If you made an embarrassing incident out of it, your DC would probably never call you for a sober ride again. Get Uber on your kids phone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Legal and moral are different.

The legal drinking age has changed over the year.

It’s not moral or immoral to drink. It has nothing to do with laws.

It’s legal to beat a suspect in custody, moral?
It’s illegal to go 45 in a 40, moral?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Wut?
The drinking age is arbitrary, as are many laws. There is nothing that magically happens on your 21st birthday to make it moral.

Well it’s not moral at 17 simply because a bunch of lazy parents say so.

What is immoral about drinking?
You have messed up values.

No, you have messed up logic. Violating a just law is immoral. That was the point. Violating an unjust law usually is not immoral, hence the question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel sad for parents who feel like they have to act okay with this.

As long as they aren’t driving, what is the issue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Wut?
The drinking age is arbitrary, as are many laws. There is nothing that magically happens on your 21st birthday to make it moral.

Well it’s not moral at 17 simply because a bunch of lazy parents say so.

What is immoral about drinking?
You have messed up values.

No, you have messed up logic. Violating a just law is immoral. That was the point. Violating an unjust law usually is not immoral, hence the question.

Refer to the post above. Explain how drinking at 20.5 is immoral but drinking at 21 is not. It’s two separate concepts that you can’t seem to grasp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Legal and moral are different.

The legal drinking age has changed over the year.

It’s not moral or immoral to drink. It has nothing to do with laws.

It’s legal to beat a suspect in custody, moral?
It’s illegal to go 45 in a 40, moral?

You are trying so, so hard to justify children violating laws, abetted by their parents. Why? Yes, lots of kids drink, but they don't pretend it isn't illegal or that violating the law isn't wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Legal and moral are different.

The legal drinking age has changed over the year.

It’s not moral or immoral to drink. It has nothing to do with laws.

It’s legal to beat a suspect in custody, moral?
It’s illegal to go 45 in a 40, moral?

You are trying so, so hard to justify children violating laws, abetted by their parents. Why? Yes, lots of kids drink, but they don't pretend it isn't illegal or that violating the law isn't wrong.

Nobody said it’s not illegal, it’s not immoral.

It’s not illegal to bang your neighbors wife but it is immoral.

You have clearly never studied ethics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Wut?
The drinking age is arbitrary, as are many laws. There is nothing that magically happens on your 21st birthday to make it moral.

Well it’s not moral at 17 simply because a bunch of lazy parents say so.

What is immoral about drinking?
You have messed up values.

No, you have messed up logic. Violating a just law is immoral. That was the point. Violating an unjust law usually is not immoral, hence the question.

Refer to the post above. Explain how drinking at 20.5 is immoral but drinking at 21 is not. It’s two separate concepts that you can’t seem to grasp.

Drinking at 20.5 is immoral because it is unlawful. If it were legal, then it would not be immoral in and of itself. Violating a just law is immoral. Immoral describes a behavior that conscientiously goes against accepted ideas and beliefs about how to behave in a way that is considered right and good by the majority of people. In our society, obeying the law is moral, disobeying the law is immoral. So violating laws about the legal drinking age is immoral unless that law is unjust and itself goes against accepted ideas and beliefs about right and wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Wut?
The drinking age is arbitrary, as are many laws. There is nothing that magically happens on your 21st birthday to make it moral.

Well it’s not moral at 17 simply because a bunch of lazy parents say so.

What is immoral about drinking?
You have messed up values.

No, you have messed up logic. Violating a just law is immoral. That was the point. Violating an unjust law usually is not immoral, hence the question.

Refer to the post above. Explain how drinking at 20.5 is immoral but drinking at 21 is not. It’s two separate concepts that you can’t seem to grasp.

Drinking at 20.5 is immoral because it is unlawful. If it were legal, then it would not be immoral in and of itself. Violating a just law is immoral. Immoral describes a behavior that conscientiously goes against accepted ideas and beliefs about how to behave in a way that is considered right and good by the majority of people. In our society, obeying the law is moral, disobeying the law is immoral. So violating laws about the legal drinking age is immoral unless that law is unjust and itself goes against accepted ideas and beliefs about right and wrong.

You’re just …wrong. Repeating yourself over and over doesn’t make you correct.
Go back to school, specifically ethics class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Drinking is not morally wrong.

There is a huge difference between laws and morals

You don't think it is immoral to violate a law that is itself not immoral? Or do you think the legal drinking age is immoral and should be protested by teen drinking until it is abolished?

Legal and moral are different.

The legal drinking age has changed over the year.

It’s not moral or immoral to drink. It has nothing to do with laws.

It’s legal to beat a suspect in custody, moral?
It’s illegal to go 45 in a 40, moral?

You are trying so, so hard to justify children violating laws, abetted by their parents. Why? Yes, lots of kids drink, but they don't pretend it isn't illegal or that violating the law isn't wrong.

Nobody said it’s not illegal, it’s not immoral.

It’s not illegal to bang your neighbors wife but it is immoral.

You have clearly never studied ethics.

Intentionally breaking the law when the law itself isn't immoral is immoral. Helping and covering for children to break the law is immoral. Helping minors destroy their longterm health is immoral

[Anonymous]

Americans have a drinking problem and it starts earlier

https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/health-wellness/2021/10/12/alcohol-everywhere-why-its-still-so-hard-not-drink-stay-sober/6088042001/?gnt-cfr=1



https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/07/america-drinking-alone-problem/619017/

https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/fact-sheets/underage-drinking.htm



https://www.niaaa.nih.gov/publications/brochures-and-fact-sheets/underage-drinking

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am surprised at the number of people okay with having drunk teens dropped off at their house.

Agree. Posters need to flip the script on this one. You told your child he could have friends spend the night. OP drops them off and drives away, they stumble in, and you realize, crap! I have a house full of underaged intoxicated kids. Now what?

Worse, you didn't give permission, and you aren't even home, but there are bunch of drunk teens "sleeping" at your house.

Tipsy is different than drunk, to me. But maybe the OP is downplaying how much they had.

Tipsy is drunk and there's no legal amount of alcohol for a minor.

This is the bottom line. And who exactly provided the alcohol to minors?

They all have fake IDs

Not likely look at half the parents in the thread would be happy to provide alcohol.

But I agree further questions need to be asked.

Not one person said they would provide alcohol.

Y'all are cool with teens getin drunk , going to parties to get drunk, think it's great prenting to drive drunk teens to another party, I;m sure you have no issue serving alcohol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jesus turned water into wine, so there’s nothing immoral about drinking. The US has some of the strictest laws for drinking (aside from Muslim nations).
My parents allowed us to drink at holidays. We all got to try wine and beer. None of us ever got drunk doing this.
Back in the 70s, when drinking age was 18, my parents were the host house for many high school parties and alcohol was served. They knew all the parents and ensured no one drove that had drank, and that no one got overly intoxicated. I think this helped the teens learn “how” to moderate their drinking.
Now they learn at college, without a watchful eye… which means alcohol poisoning for some.

It's been proven that teaching your kids to drink at home does not translate them to being responsible with alcohol in college or later in life.