SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

[Anonymous]

I have to mute so much of this because it's cringe and I am embarrassed on behalf of the characters. That's not the kind of escapist fiction I want to watch.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Watched the fourth episode last night. Meh.

Charlotte's arc felt a little white savior-y. She has no black friends but she's able to pull her new black friend's chestnuts out of the fire with her mother-in-law and suddenly she's "in" with the sisters? Uhhh...

And if Carrie is devastated by the loss of Big, it's hard to tell.

Miranda's prof opening up to her about IVF and maybe not wanting a child at all? They've known each other what? Weeks?

I happen to be simultaneously binging Insecure and while it's not perfect, holy cow, the quality differences are so dang stark.

Damned if we do, and damned if we don’t. Where is the line between being actively anti-racist and being a white savior? Tired of the absurdity of it all. If anything, this show is highlighting what a f’d up place white women are trapped in right now. I know, boo hoo. But dang. Our mere existence is offensive to people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Watched the fourth episode last night. Meh.

Charlotte's arc felt a little white savior-y. She has no black friends but she's able to pull her new black friend's chestnuts out of the fire with her mother-in-law and suddenly she's "in" with the sisters? Uhhh...

And if Carrie is devastated by the loss of Big, it's hard to tell.

Miranda's prof opening up to her about IVF and maybe not wanting a child at all? They've known each other what? Weeks?

I happen to be simultaneously binging Insecure and while it's not perfect, holy cow, the quality differences are so dang stark.

Damned if we do, and damned if we don’t. Where is the line between being actively anti-racist and being a white savior? Tired of the absurdity of it all. If anything, this show is highlighting what a f’d up place white women are trapped in right now. I know, boo hoo. But dang. Our mere existence is offensive to people.

I'm the pp. I am a white woman. I agree that many white women feel trapped right now. Because many feel they suddenly have to have black friends so they don't look racist. But the answer to that is the same as making friends anywhere - through mutual respect, shared interests, and care-taking over time.

It seems like on some level, Charlotte's friendship with Lisa has the potential to develop into something authentic because they do both have a love of art and seem to share some values and interests. But the series is rushing a lot of these relationships, which is (I guess) why so much of this feels performative and phony???

[Anonymous]

Stanford was done wrong. That was such a horrible exit for him. Wtf!!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Stanford was done wrong. That was such a horrible exit for him. Wtf!!!!

I think it would not have worked from a story perspective for Stanford to die suddenly just a few episodes after Big died.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Stanford was done wrong. That was such a horrible exit for him. Wtf!!!!

I think it would not have worked from a story perspective for Stanford to die suddenly just a few episodes after Big died.

They had an exit storyline planned for him, but he had to leave abruptly due to his illness worsening. So it was just one of those things where they couldn’t even have him say goodbye. Now, the Big death we can complain about.

[Anonymous]

It’s so cringe. Watching old women act like this

[Anonymous]

Miranda's prof opening up to her about IVF and maybe not wanting a child at all? They've known each other what? Weeks?

I’m so torn because I loved that conversation SO MUCH but the setup as you said was very very unrealistic. I’m late 40s, had kids early 30s along with most of my really close friends, and we had one other friend who had her first at 42 and second at 44. I wish I could have had this conversation with her.

Were we supposed to be aware that Stanford had a job all along? I’m not sure I ever knew what it was. This departure isn’t great but agree that they couldn’t kill him.

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Anonymous wrote:So how rich are these women supposed to be?

Carrie seems like she is very wealthy now and she did not make much money in her lifetime nor was she born rich. I imagine with the sales of her books, she probably amassed what, a net worth of a couple hundred thousand dollars?

I imagine Big funded her lifestyle with the beautiful penthouse and the upgrades to her apartment.

Miranda was in big law and a partner for a few years so I imagine she is worth 5mil. Steve owned a bar, which I’m sure was pretty successful so I’d say his net worth is somewhere in the 2-5 mil.

Charlotte recieved a million dollars from her divorce and her apartment. Harry is a partner at a law firm so he brings in 2-3 mil a year. I’d imagine their net worth is in the 15 mil or so. They do well but not enough to be on the board at the Met. Lol

Of course Carrie is wealthy because of Big. She was a moderately successful writer but she would not have some lavish lifestyle if she were single.

Miranda and Steve bought that Brooklyn brownstone that they renovated in the early 2000s. If they sold it they would have made a ton of money. It looks like they traded up-- the house doesn't look like the same layout as their old one. Miranda would be very wealthy as a law partner. I can't imagine Steve's bar did great during the pandemic but they glossed over that. It would have been interesting to explore that.

As a divorce lawyer for the wealthy I'm sure Harry is loaded, but you're right that Charlotte being on the board of the Met is a stretch. There are plenty of small art museums in New York that would have been more realistic.

I want to know why Lisa (the new cast member) is so rich. The apartment they filmed in is currently for sale by Sothebys for $23m. And that art collection…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Miranda's prof opening up to her about IVF and maybe not wanting a child at all? They've known each other what? Weeks?

I’m so torn because I loved that conversation SO MUCH but the setup as you said was very very unrealistic. I’m late 40s, had kids early 30s along with most of my really close friends, and we had one other friend who had her first at 42 and second at 44. I wish I could have had this conversation with her.

Were we supposed to be aware that Stanford had a job all along? I’m not sure I ever knew what it was. This departure isn’t great but agree that they couldn’t kill him.

I'm rewatching SATC, and way back when he was an agent (I think) with one client -- an underwear model.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So how rich are these women supposed to be?

Carrie seems like she is very wealthy now and she did not make much money in her lifetime nor was she born rich. I imagine with the sales of her books, she probably amassed what, a net worth of a couple hundred thousand dollars?

I imagine Big funded her lifestyle with the beautiful penthouse and the upgrades to her apartment.

Miranda was in big law and a partner for a few years so I imagine she is worth 5mil. Steve owned a bar, which I’m sure was pretty successful so I’d say his net worth is somewhere in the 2-5 mil.

Charlotte recieved a million dollars from her divorce and her apartment. Harry is a partner at a law firm so he brings in 2-3 mil a year. I’d imagine their net worth is in the 15 mil or so. They do well but not enough to be on the board at the Met. Lol

Of course Carrie is wealthy because of Big. She was a moderately successful writer but she would not have some lavish lifestyle if she were single.

Miranda and Steve bought that Brooklyn brownstone that they renovated in the early 2000s. If they sold it they would have made a ton of money. It looks like they traded up-- the house doesn't look like the same layout as their old one. Miranda would be very wealthy as a law partner. I can't imagine Steve's bar did great during the pandemic but they glossed over that. It would have been interesting to explore that.

As a divorce lawyer for the wealthy I'm sure Harry is loaded, but you're right that Charlotte being on the board of the Met is a stretch. There are plenty of small art museums in New York that would have been more realistic.

I want to know why Lisa (the new cast member) is so rich. The apartment they filmed in is currently for sale by Sothebys for $23m. And that art collection…

It seems her husband comes from money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Miranda's prof opening up to her about IVF and maybe not wanting a child at all? They've known each other what? Weeks?

I’m so torn because I loved that conversation SO MUCH but the setup as you said was very very unrealistic. I’m late 40s, had kids early 30s along with most of my really close friends, and we had one other friend who had her first at 42 and second at 44. I wish I could have had this conversation with her.

Were we supposed to be aware that Stanford had a job all along? I’m not sure I ever knew what it was. This departure isn’t great but agree that they couldn’t kill him.

I thought it was a great conversation between two people who are fast tracking to real friendship. Haven't you ever met someone and you just click, and you can share with them in a way that is harder than with people you've known longer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Miranda's prof opening up to her about IVF and maybe not wanting a child at all? They've known each other what? Weeks?

I’m so torn because I loved that conversation SO MUCH but the setup as you said was very very unrealistic. I’m late 40s, had kids early 30s along with most of my really close friends, and we had one other friend who had her first at 42 and second at 44. I wish I could have had this conversation with her.

Were we supposed to be aware that Stanford had a job all along? I’m not sure I ever knew what it was. This departure isn’t great but agree that they couldn’t kill him.

I thought it was a great conversation between two people who are fast tracking to real friendship. Haven't you ever met someone and you just click, and you can share with them in a way that is harder than with people you've known longer?

With one of my current students? Nope. Never. And I taught college for eight years. So maybe that’s why I’m sensitive to it. But no. I never would have discussed my fertility treatment with a current student I barely know.

[Anonymous]

The show feels so scripted by committee that it's painful. Give everyone an ethnically diverse friend. Give everyone a "contemporary" problem. Browbeat the audience with lessons about tolerance and acceptance while allowing them to suspend their disbelief enough that they accept this aspirational version of NYC as normal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The show feels so scripted by committee that it's painful. Give everyone an ethnically diverse friend. Give everyone a "contemporary" problem. Browbeat the audience with lessons about tolerance and acceptance while allowing them to suspend their disbelief enough that they accept this aspirational version of NYC as normal.

+1. The committee added in LGBTQ and disabled for good measure.