Magruder HS Shooting

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The press conference timing had nothing to do with releasing the kids.

The press conference was to provide information to the public. The police and school administration were accounting for everyone else, searching for further evidence, and determining an order of release. It doesn't get wrapped up neatly like a one hour police drama.

The press conference had everything to do with the students. They were still being held hostage. The buses were lined up for hours and the students were still on lockdown. Not sure what you are inside, but dismissal from a high school happens every day and it doesn't take 3 1/2 hours. High schools actually know how to release students.
This isn't the first school shooting in this country. It never takes 3 1/2 hours to release students back to their families. Student parent reunification is always the first priority, not the last.

"The suspect was located inside the school just before 3 p.m. A handgun was also found with that student."
"Buses were seen lined up at the school at 4:30 p.m. two hours after their regular dismissal time."
"Students were seen leaving the building just before 5:30 p.m."
https://wjla.com/news/local/student-injured-at-mag...ntgomery-county-public-schools

If it was safe for buses to line up, it was safe for release. And we don't know if it was okay even before 4:30, but this may shed more light on the timing.

"At 4:16 p.m., Montgomery County Police tweeted that a press conference had been scheduled for 4:45 p.m. at Sequoyah Elementary School, about half a mile from Magruder's campus. The press conference, however, did not begin until around 5:40 p.m. Officials explained the delay was because MCPS Interim Superintendent Monifa McKnight had gotten stuck in traffic and needed a police escort."
https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-d...kdown-police-officers-mcknight

Is it true the reason why she needed the police escort is because she doesn't even live in or have her children attend MCPS schools?

Does this mean she needs a police escort every time there's an issue? Kids will be delayed just to wait for her press conferences in future incidents?

How would where her children attend school affect traffic?

Because if she is picking her child up from school in Bowie it takes a while to get to Rockville in rush hour. That's why she called the police to give her an escort. The drive from Bowie at that time a day
is a problem.

It is a bit weird she is working from home given her position and school is in person.

I'm not a huge McKnight fan, but I am a working mother with a high pressured job. Since COVID, people have been very flexible about working from home. For all you know, one of her kids had a doctor's appointment earlier that morning, or she did, or there was just some other reason why working from home was easier on that day.

She is paid a lot of money and is in an executive leadership position. If she cannot make appropriate arrangements to manage her child care in order to fulfill her responsibilities then she should not have taken the job.

Presumably people at MCPS care about kids.

MCPS isn't good enough for her own kids? She can't even live in the County? Right. She's either the Superintendent, or she's not.

I've got zero sympathy for someone making $400K. Plus this is the lady who refused to let kids go virtual during the January spike - yet she can, right? Please.

[Anonymous]

I would say this is the lady who worked from him (and allowed most of Central Office) work from home while staff were getting sick with Covid while teaching in person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would say this is the lady who worked from him (and allowed most of Central Office) work from home while staff were getting sick with Covid while teaching in person.

Because central office work is the same as classroom work.

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Anonymous wrote:Insider here:

The press conference timing had nothing to do with releasing the kids.

The press conference was to provide information to the public. The police and school administration were accounting for everyone else, searching for further evidence, and determining an order of release. It doesn't get wrapped up neatly like a one hour police drama.

The press conference had everything to do with the students. They were still being held hostage. The buses were lined up for hours and the students were still on lockdown. Not sure what you are inside, but dismissal from a high school happens every day and it doesn't take 3 1/2 hours. High schools actually know how to release students.
This isn't the first school shooting in this country. It never takes 3 1/2 hours to release students back to their families. Student parent reunification is always the first priority, not the last.

"The suspect was located inside the school just before 3 p.m. A handgun was also found with that student."
"Buses were seen lined up at the school at 4:30 p.m. two hours after their regular dismissal time."
"Students were seen leaving the building just before 5:30 p.m."
https://wjla.com/news/local/student-injured-at-mag...ntgomery-county-public-schools

If it was safe for buses to line up, it was safe for release. And we don't know if it was okay even before 4:30, but this may shed more light on the timing.

"At 4:16 p.m., Montgomery County Police tweeted that a press conference had been scheduled for 4:45 p.m. at Sequoyah Elementary School, about half a mile from Magruder's campus. The press conference, however, did not begin until around 5:40 p.m. Officials explained the delay was because MCPS Interim Superintendent Monifa McKnight had gotten stuck in traffic and needed a police escort."
https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-d...kdown-police-officers-mcknight

Is it true the reason why she needed the police escort is because she doesn't even live in or have her children attend MCPS schools?

Does this mean she needs a police escort every time there's an issue? Kids will be delayed just to wait for her press conferences in future incidents?

How would where her children attend school affect traffic?

Because if she is picking her child up from school in Bowie it takes a while to get to Rockville in rush hour. That's why she called the police to give her an escort. The drive from Bowie at that time a day
is a problem.

It is a bit weird she is working from home given her position and school is in person.

I'm not a huge McKnight fan, but I am a working mother with a high pressured job. Since COVID, people have been very flexible about working from home. For all you know, one of her kids had a doctor's appointment earlier that morning, or she did, or there was just some other reason why working from home was easier on that day.

She is paid a lot of money and is in an executive leadership position. If she cannot make appropriate arrangements to manage her child care in order to fulfill her responsibilities then she should not have taken the job.

Presumably people at MCPS care about kids.

If they truly put kids first, they would release them to go home the very second possible and worry about the press conference later. It was unconscionable to continue to keep them there.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Insider here:

The press conference timing had nothing to do with releasing the kids.

The press conference was to provide information to the public. The police and school administration were accounting for everyone else, searching for further evidence, and determining an order of release. It doesn't get wrapped up neatly like a one hour police drama.

The press conference had everything to do with the students. They were still being held hostage. The buses were lined up for hours and the students were still on lockdown. Not sure what you are inside, but dismissal from a high school happens every day and it doesn't take 3 1/2 hours. High schools actually know how to release students.
This isn't the first school shooting in this country. It never takes 3 1/2 hours to release students back to their families. Student parent reunification is always the first priority, not the last.

"The suspect was located inside the school just before 3 p.m. A handgun was also found with that student."
"Buses were seen lined up at the school at 4:30 p.m. two hours after their regular dismissal time."
"Students were seen leaving the building just before 5:30 p.m."
https://wjla.com/news/local/student-injured-at-mag...ntgomery-county-public-schools

If it was safe for buses to line up, it was safe for release. And we don't know if it was okay even before 4:30, but this may shed more light on the timing.

"At 4:16 p.m., Montgomery County Police tweeted that a press conference had been scheduled for 4:45 p.m. at Sequoyah Elementary School, about half a mile from Magruder's campus. The press conference, however, did not begin until around 5:40 p.m. Officials explained the delay was because MCPS Interim Superintendent Monifa McKnight had gotten stuck in traffic and needed a police escort."
https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-d...kdown-police-officers-mcknight

Is it true the reason why she needed the police escort is because she doesn't even live in or have her children attend MCPS schools?

Does this mean she needs a police escort every time there's an issue? Kids will be delayed just to wait for her press conferences in future incidents?

How would where her children attend school affect traffic?

Because if she is picking her child up from school in Bowie it takes a while to get to Rockville in rush hour. That's why she called the police to give her an escort. The drive from Bowie at that time a day
is a problem.

It is a bit weird she is working from home given her position and school is in person.

I'm not a huge McKnight fan, but I am a working mother with a high pressured job. Since COVID, people have been very flexible about working from home. For all you know, one of her kids had a doctor's appointment earlier that morning, or she did, or there was just some other reason why working from home was easier on that day.

She is paid a lot of money and is in an executive leadership position. If she cannot make appropriate arrangements to manage her child care in order to fulfill her responsibilities then she should not have taken the job.

Presumably people at MCPS care about kids.

If they truly put kids first, they would release them to go home the very second possible and worry about the press conference later. It was unconscionable to continue to keep them there.

I think you're really hung up on a minor detail. One kid got shot, everyone else went home. Let it go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Insider here:

The press conference timing had nothing to do with releasing the kids.

The press conference was to provide information to the public. The police and school administration were accounting for everyone else, searching for further evidence, and determining an order of release. It doesn't get wrapped up neatly like a one hour police drama.

The press conference had everything to do with the students. They were still being held hostage. The buses were lined up for hours and the students were still on lockdown. Not sure what you are inside, but dismissal from a high school happens every day and it doesn't take 3 1/2 hours. High schools actually know how to release students.
This isn't the first school shooting in this country. It never takes 3 1/2 hours to release students back to their families. Student parent reunification is always the first priority, not the last.

"The suspect was located inside the school just before 3 p.m. A handgun was also found with that student."
"Buses were seen lined up at the school at 4:30 p.m. two hours after their regular dismissal time."
"Students were seen leaving the building just before 5:30 p.m."
https://wjla.com/news/local/student-injured-at-mag...ntgomery-county-public-schools

If it was safe for buses to line up, it was safe for release. And we don't know if it was okay even before 4:30, but this may shed more light on the timing.

"At 4:16 p.m., Montgomery County Police tweeted that a press conference had been scheduled for 4:45 p.m. at Sequoyah Elementary School, about half a mile from Magruder's campus. The press conference, however, did not begin until around 5:40 p.m. Officials explained the delay was because MCPS Interim Superintendent Monifa McKnight had gotten stuck in traffic and needed a police escort."
https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-d...kdown-police-officers-mcknight

Is it true the reason why she needed the police escort is because she doesn't even live in or have her children attend MCPS schools?

Does this mean she needs a police escort every time there's an issue? Kids will be delayed just to wait for her press conferences in future incidents?

How would where her children attend school affect traffic?

Because if she is picking her child up from school in Bowie it takes a while to get to Rockville in rush hour. That's why she called the police to give her an escort. The drive from Bowie at that time a day
is a problem.

It is a bit weird she is working from home given her position and school is in person.

I'm not a huge McKnight fan, but I am a working mother with a high pressured job. Since COVID, people have been very flexible about working from home. For all you know, one of her kids had a doctor's appointment earlier that morning, or she did, or there was just some other reason why working from home was easier on that day.

She is paid a lot of money and is in an executive leadership position. If she cannot make appropriate arrangements to manage her child care in order to fulfill her responsibilities then she should not have taken the job.

Presumably people at MCPS care about kids.

If they truly put kids first, they would release them to go home the very second possible and worry about the press conference later. It was unconscionable to continue to keep them there.

The press conference was with leaders of departments. The folks holding up the student release were the actual police on scene and school staff. These two things are NOT related.

[Anonymous]

The post article makes it appear the victim and his crew was going to jump the kid in bathroom who had gun for protection and got shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn't sound like there is positive news to share...hope he recovers.

That's what I'm thinking, too. Contrary to the "teacher" pp, people DO care how the victim is doing. The family doesn't owe us any information, but many of us are concerned. Even if it is a simple "stable", that would be reassuring. Last I heard, he was fighting for his life.

I heard he took a turn for the worse.
It is such a horrible and sad outcome.
It makes me so incredibly angry at the BIE and County Council.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The post article makes it appear the victim and his crew was going to jump the kid in bathroom who had gun for protection and got shot.

That's is incorrect. Just shut up

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The post article makes it appear the victim and his crew was going to jump the kid in bathroom who had gun for protection and got shot.

That's is incorrect. Just shut up

Whether it's correct or not we don't know. But that is what the suspect told police. Quoting from the article:

Court records filed in Montgomery County say the teen asserted he pulled out the gun to ward off a fight.

“Alston advised he took the handgun to school because he was worried he was going to be jumped,” detectives wrote, using the term for a group attack. “Alston said he went to the restroom where the victim and his friends were waiting. Alston did not want to fight so he pulled the gun, hoping to scare the victim and his friends away.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The post article makes it appear the victim and his crew was going to jump the kid in bathroom who had gun for protection and got shot.

Yes. That's what all the kids think, too. Based on the history of the people involved. To me, it's two lives ruined. I feel very badly for both the shooting victim and the shooter. They are children. Ghost guns are a game changer, unfortunately. They are so incredibly easy to get.

But this is the trend we are seeing in the county. People who have disputes and don't know how to handle them. What used to be a fist fight is now about knives and guns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Insider here:

The press conference timing had nothing to do with releasing the kids.

The press conference was to provide information to the public. The police and school administration were accounting for everyone else, searching for further evidence, and determining an order of release. It doesn't get wrapped up neatly like a one hour police drama.

The press conference had everything to do with the students. They were still being held hostage. The buses were lined up for hours and the students were still on lockdown. Not sure what you are inside, but dismissal from a high school happens every day and it doesn't take 3 1/2 hours. High schools actually know how to release students.
This isn't the first school shooting in this country. It never takes 3 1/2 hours to release students back to their families. Student parent reunification is always the first priority, not the last.

"The suspect was located inside the school just before 3 p.m. A handgun was also found with that student."
"Buses were seen lined up at the school at 4:30 p.m. two hours after their regular dismissal time."
"Students were seen leaving the building just before 5:30 p.m."
https://wjla.com/news/local/student-injured-at-mag...ntgomery-county-public-schools

If it was safe for buses to line up, it was safe for release. And we don't know if it was okay even before 4:30, but this may shed more light on the timing.

"At 4:16 p.m., Montgomery County Police tweeted that a press conference had been scheduled for 4:45 p.m. at Sequoyah Elementary School, about half a mile from Magruder's campus. The press conference, however, did not begin until around 5:40 p.m. Officials explained the delay was because MCPS Interim Superintendent Monifa McKnight had gotten stuck in traffic and needed a police escort."
https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-d...kdown-police-officers-mcknight

Is it true the reason why she needed the police escort is because she doesn't even live in or have her children attend MCPS schools?

Does this mean she needs a police escort every time there's an issue? Kids will be delayed just to wait for her press conferences in future incidents?

How would where her children attend school affect traffic?

Because if she is picking her child up from school in Bowie it takes a while to get to Rockville in rush hour. That's why she called the police to give her an escort. The drive from Bowie at that time a day
is a problem.

It is a bit weird she is working from home given her position and school is in person.

I'm not a huge McKnight fan, but I am a working mother with a high pressured job. Since COVID, people have been very flexible about working from home. For all you know, one of her kids had a doctor's appointment earlier that morning, or she did, or there was just some other reason why working from home was easier on that day.

She is paid a lot of money and is in an executive leadership position. If she cannot make appropriate arrangements to manage her child care in order to fulfill her responsibilities then she should not have taken the job.

Presumably people at MCPS care about kids.

If they truly put kids first, they would release them to go home the very second possible and worry about the press conference later. It was unconscionable to continue to keep them there.

The press conference was with leaders of departments. The folks holding up the student release were the actual police on scene and school staff. These two things are NOT related.

So you're claiming that the police, and not MCPS, deliberately did not release kids until 5:30?

I think that would be an interesting question to directly ask them and get clarification upon - who actually kept the parents and kids separated and why.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Insider here:

The press conference timing had nothing to do with releasing the kids.

The press conference was to provide information to the public. The police and school administration were accounting for everyone else, searching for further evidence, and determining an order of release. It doesn't get wrapped up neatly like a one hour police drama.

The press conference had everything to do with the students. They were still being held hostage. The buses were lined up for hours and the students were still on lockdown. Not sure what you are inside, but dismissal from a high school happens every day and it doesn't take 3 1/2 hours. High schools actually know how to release students.
This isn't the first school shooting in this country. It never takes 3 1/2 hours to release students back to their families. Student parent reunification is always the first priority, not the last.

"The suspect was located inside the school just before 3 p.m. A handgun was also found with that student."
"Buses were seen lined up at the school at 4:30 p.m. two hours after their regular dismissal time."
"Students were seen leaving the building just before 5:30 p.m."
https://wjla.com/news/local/student-injured-at-mag...ntgomery-county-public-schools

If it was safe for buses to line up, it was safe for release. And we don't know if it was okay even before 4:30, but this may shed more light on the timing.

"At 4:16 p.m., Montgomery County Police tweeted that a press conference had been scheduled for 4:45 p.m. at Sequoyah Elementary School, about half a mile from Magruder's campus. The press conference, however, did not begin until around 5:40 p.m. Officials explained the delay was because MCPS Interim Superintendent Monifa McKnight had gotten stuck in traffic and needed a police escort."
https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-d...kdown-police-officers-mcknight

Is it true the reason why she needed the police escort is because she doesn't even live in or have her children attend MCPS schools?

Does this mean she needs a police escort every time there's an issue? Kids will be delayed just to wait for her press conferences in future incidents?

How would where her children attend school affect traffic?

Because if she is picking her child up from school in Bowie it takes a while to get to Rockville in rush hour. That's why she called the police to give her an escort. The drive from Bowie at that time a day
is a problem.

It is a bit weird she is working from home given her position and school is in person.

I'm not a huge McKnight fan, but I am a working mother with a high pressured job. Since COVID, people have been very flexible about working from home. For all you know, one of her kids had a doctor's appointment earlier that morning, or she did, or there was just some other reason why working from home was easier on that day.

She is paid a lot of money and is in an executive leadership position. If she cannot make appropriate arrangements to manage her child care in order to fulfill her responsibilities then she should not have taken the job.

Presumably people at MCPS care about kids.

If they truly put kids first, they would release them to go home the very second possible and worry about the press conference later. It was unconscionable to continue to keep them there.

The press conference was with leaders of departments. The folks holding up the student release were the actual police on scene and school staff. These two things are NOT related.

So you're claiming that the police, and not MCPS, deliberately did not release kids until 5:30?

I think that would be an interesting question to directly ask them and get clarification upon - who actually kept the parents and kids separated and why.

police and magruder administration. Not McKnight. I’m a Magruder parent. That’s exactly what the police chief and principal said in our community meeting the next day. They had to ensure the scene was controlled, all evidence collected, and all students accounted for. Nobody knew if there were other kids involved. They then had a dismissal protocol with walkers and drivers released first. Bussed kids next. And car pool kids next.

I think Dr. Evans and the whole school staff did a fantastic job. It takes a lot of work to manage a critical incident scene. I’m sure both the school and police will do an after action review to see what could have been done better. And it will work more smoothly the next time. (Because with ghost guns, unfortunately I’m sure there will be a next time). But considering it was the first school shooting ever in the county, they did a hell of a good job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Insider here:

The press conference timing had nothing to do with releasing the kids.

The press conference was to provide information to the public. The police and school administration were accounting for everyone else, searching for further evidence, and determining an order of release. It doesn't get wrapped up neatly like a one hour police drama.

The press conference had everything to do with the students. They were still being held hostage. The buses were lined up for hours and the students were still on lockdown. Not sure what you are inside, but dismissal from a high school happens every day and it doesn't take 3 1/2 hours. High schools actually know how to release students.
This isn't the first school shooting in this country. It never takes 3 1/2 hours to release students back to their families. Student parent reunification is always the first priority, not the last.

"The suspect was located inside the school just before 3 p.m. A handgun was also found with that student."
"Buses were seen lined up at the school at 4:30 p.m. two hours after their regular dismissal time."
"Students were seen leaving the building just before 5:30 p.m."
https://wjla.com/news/local/student-injured-at-mag...ntgomery-county-public-schools

If it was safe for buses to line up, it was safe for release. And we don't know if it was okay even before 4:30, but this may shed more light on the timing.

"At 4:16 p.m., Montgomery County Police tweeted that a press conference had been scheduled for 4:45 p.m. at Sequoyah Elementary School, about half a mile from Magruder's campus. The press conference, however, did not begin until around 5:40 p.m. Officials explained the delay was because MCPS Interim Superintendent Monifa McKnight had gotten stuck in traffic and needed a police escort."
https://wjla.com/news/local/magruder-high-school-d...kdown-police-officers-mcknight

Is it true the reason why she needed the police escort is because she doesn't even live in or have her children attend MCPS schools?

Does this mean she needs a police escort every time there's an issue? Kids will be delayed just to wait for her press conferences in future incidents?

How would where her children attend school affect traffic?

Because if she is picking her child up from school in Bowie it takes a while to get to Rockville in rush hour. That's why she called the police to give her an escort. The drive from Bowie at that time a day
is a problem.

It is a bit weird she is working from home given her position and school is in person.

I'm not a huge McKnight fan, but I am a working mother with a high pressured job. Since COVID, people have been very flexible about working from home. For all you know, one of her kids had a doctor's appointment earlier that morning, or she did, or there was just some other reason why working from home was easier on that day.

She is paid a lot of money and is in an executive leadership position. If she cannot make appropriate arrangements to manage her child care in order to fulfill her responsibilities then she should not have taken the job.

Presumably people at MCPS care about kids.

If they truly put kids first, they would release them to go home the very second possible and worry about the press conference later. It was unconscionable to continue to keep them there.

The press conference was with leaders of departments. The folks holding up the student release were the actual police on scene and school staff. These two things are NOT related.

So you're claiming that the police, and not MCPS, deliberately did not release kids until 5:30?

I think that would be an interesting question to directly ask them and get clarification upon - who actually kept the parents and kids separated and why.

police and magruder administration. Not McKnight. I’m a Magruder parent. That’s exactly what the police chief and principal said in our community meeting the next day. They had to ensure the scene was controlled, all evidence collected, and all students accounted for. Nobody knew if there were other kids involved. They then had a dismissal protocol with walkers and drivers released first. Bussed kids next. And car pool kids next.

I think Dr. Evans and the whole school staff did a fantastic job. It takes a lot of work to manage a critical incident scene. I’m sure both the school and police will do an after action review to see what could have been done better. And it will work more smoothly the next time. (Because with ghost guns, unfortunately I’m sure there will be a next time). But considering it was the first school shooting ever in the county, they did a hell of a good job.

Thank you for this clarification. It felt very muddled higher up in the thread.

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