Lebanon / Israel

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Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

Just a point to the bolded - the UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanon, not the border. Shebaa Farms is still considered occupied territory by the UN, but occupied territory belonging to Syria. So they certified the pullout of Israel from *Lebanese territory*, even though Israel did not pull out of Shebaa Farms.

The point is the UN said their piece and certified it, despite Israel being in Shebaa Farms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

If the UN considers it Syria, Israel considers it theirs, and Lebanon considers it theirs, then it sounds pretty much like it’s conflicted territory to me.

So casting it as an unequivocally defensible act by Hezbollah to bomb there on 10/8 seems a little ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

If the UN considers it Syria, Israel considers it theirs, and Lebanon considers it theirs, then it sounds pretty much like it’s conflicted territory to me.

So casting it as an unequivocally defensible act by Hezbollah to bomb there on 10/8 seems a little ridiculous.

Go back and read. I never said that and I never implied that.

It would be more accurate to say that Hezbollah fired into disputed or occupied territory, and Israel returned fire into Lebanon.

But almost all the reporting out there since last week are not saying that and instead say Hezbollah started firing into Israel on 10/8. Which again, is only from the Israeli perspective. Reporting should not give only the Israeli view as if it is a fact.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

If the UN considers it Syria, Israel considers it theirs, and Lebanon considers it theirs, then it sounds pretty much like it’s conflicted territory to me.

So casting it as an unequivocally defensible act by Hezbollah to bomb there on 10/8 seems a little ridiculous.

Go back and read. I never said that and I never implied that.

It would be more accurate to say that Hezbollah fired into disputed or occupied territory, and Israel returned fire into Lebanon.

But almost all the reporting out there since last week are not saying that and instead say Hezbollah started firing into Israel on 10/8. Which again, is only from the Israeli perspective. Reporting should not give only the Israeli view as if it is a fact.

Fine.

But it also isn’t true to say, as a PP did, that Hezbollah was defending itself. That’s just taking Lebanon’s view as though it’s fact.

Syria could’ve just as easily retaliated, since it considers that Syrian territory. But they didn’t because they’re ultimately aligned with Hezbollah.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

FFS, why are you even indulging this mouth breather with "Lebanon and Syria think it belongs to Syria" talk? It's NOT Israel. It's Syrian land. International law dictates that it's not Israel's land, nor will it ever be recognized by the international community as part of Israel.

Next!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

FFS, why are you even indulging this mouth breather with "Lebanon and Syria think it belongs to Syria" talk? It's NOT Israel. It's Syrian land. International law dictates that it's not Israel's land, nor will it ever be recognized by the international community as part of Israel.

Next!

Sounds like it also won’t ever be considered Lebanese land.

So Hezbollah can’t have been justified in striking Shebaa Farms, under your logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I hardly think attacking a terrorist group and killing their members is hardly premeditated murder. They are still attacking and launching missiles every day.

This group has a charter to killing Jews, has been launching missiles into Israel for 1 year (8000 and counting), has killed Americans.
There will never be peace with Hezbollah until they destroy Israel.

So, yeah, I’m good with Israel’s Self Defense by attacking Hezbollah.

But the disconnect seems to be that Israel is not just "attacking a terrorist group and killing their members" they are killing many regular Lebanese citizens who are causing no immediate (or even past) threat. That is murder. I give you that Hezbollah's charter is terrible but I don't understand why it is so hard to see that Israel's actions are also terrible. It's like if the PLO attacked to kill a settler in the West Bank who attacked a Palestinian, but blew up the entire apartment complex where that settler lived. Would that be ok?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

FFS, why are you even indulging this mouth breather with "Lebanon and Syria think it belongs to Syria" talk? It's NOT Israel. It's Syrian land. International law dictates that it's not Israel's land, nor will it ever be recognized by the international community as part of Israel.

Next!

Sounds like it also won’t ever be considered Lebanese land.

So Hezbollah can’t have been justified in striking Shebaa Farms, under your logic.

Hezbollah is a non-state entity, right? They don’t represent Lebanon.

Regardless, Israel has no legitimate right to respond to military acts that don’t involve their own territory, or even that involve their own citizens on foreign soil. Doing so means THEY initiated acts of war by responding with rocket and mission activity into Lebanon, and they should be treated by the U.S. like we treat Russian incursions into Ukraine, no different.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

FFS, why are you even indulging this mouth breather with "Lebanon and Syria think it belongs to Syria" talk? It's NOT Israel. It's Syrian land. International law dictates that it's not Israel's land, nor will it ever be recognized by the international community as part of Israel.

Next!

Sounds like it also won’t ever be considered Lebanese land.

So Hezbollah can’t have been justified in striking Shebaa Farms, under your logic.

Hezbollah is a non-state entity, right? They don’t represent Lebanon.

Regardless, Israel has no legitimate right to respond to military acts that don’t involve their own territory, or even that involve their own citizens on foreign soil. Doing so means THEY initiated acts of war by responding with rocket and mission activity into Lebanon, and they should be treated by the U.S. like we treat Russian incursions into Ukraine, no different.

Comparing Hezbollah to Ukraine is ridiculous.

Hezbollah’s entire goal is to destroy Israel. They’ve targeted Israel incessantly, including during ceasefire periods.

In contrast, Ukraine has done absolutely nothing to provoke Russia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

FFS, why are you even indulging this mouth breather with "Lebanon and Syria think it belongs to Syria" talk? It's NOT Israel. It's Syrian land. International law dictates that it's not Israel's land, nor will it ever be recognized by the international community as part of Israel.

Next!

Sounds like it also won’t ever be considered Lebanese land.

So Hezbollah can’t have been justified in striking Shebaa Farms, under your logic.

Hezbollah is a non-state entity, right? They don’t represent Lebanon.

Regardless, Israel has no legitimate right to respond to military acts that don’t involve their own territory, or even that involve their own citizens on foreign soil. Doing so means THEY initiated acts of war by responding with rocket and mission activity into Lebanon, and they should be treated by the U.S. like we treat Russian incursions into Ukraine, no different.

Comparing Hezbollah to Ukraine is ridiculous.

Hezbollah’s entire goal is to destroy Israel. They’ve targeted Israel incessantly, including during ceasefire periods.

In contrast, Ukraine has done absolutely nothing to provoke Russia.

It’s not so simple either way. Yes Hezbollah’s goal is to eliminate Israel. But Israel is attacking Lebanon not just Hezbollah.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

FFS, why are you even indulging this mouth breather with "Lebanon and Syria think it belongs to Syria" talk? It's NOT Israel. It's Syrian land. International law dictates that it's not Israel's land, nor will it ever be recognized by the international community as part of Israel.

Next!

Sounds like it also won’t ever be considered Lebanese land.

So Hezbollah can’t have been justified in striking Shebaa Farms, under your logic.

Hezbollah is a non-state entity, right? They don’t represent Lebanon.

Regardless, Israel has no legitimate right to respond to military acts that don’t involve their own territory, or even that involve their own citizens on foreign soil. Doing so means THEY initiated acts of war by responding with rocket and mission activity into Lebanon, and they should be treated by the U.S. like we treat Russian incursions into Ukraine, no different.

Comparing Hezbollah to Ukraine is ridiculous.

Hezbollah’s entire goal is to destroy Israel. They’ve targeted Israel incessantly, including during ceasefire periods.

In contrast, Ukraine has done absolutely nothing to provoke Russia.

It’s not so simple either way. Yes Hezbollah’s goal is to eliminate Israel. But Israel is attacking Lebanon not just Hezbollah.

And Hezbollah’s rockets are indiscriminate. It goes both ways.

[Anonymous]

Beirut attack ‘massive’: 6 residential buildings levelled to the ground​

If this happened to Israel, it would be called a heinous and savage terror attack done by monsters.

[Anonymous]

Israel needs to start being called a terror state. They’re in the terror yacht. Hezbollah is still on the raft

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh and the word “genocide” was coined in order to describe what happened in the Holocaust.

Although the act existed before that, the word did not.

Honestly this whole discussion about genocide is a trick to turn our attention away from the DEATH and DESTRUCTION Israel is inflicting.

Have any of you been to the Bekaa valley? I (a Jew!) travelled there in 2003. I took public transportation everywhere (they had a great mini bus system) . No one was anything but lovely to me. The land was beautiful. The antiquities plentiful. The food amazing.

My friend’s in laws live there. Why? They are not Hezbollah. But the Lebanese banking system froze assets in the banks a year or so ago and they no longer have access to a lifetime of saving for retirement. So they sold their apartment in Beirut and bought a cheaper place in the countryside. Their new town is getting bombed. They are well educated, non extremists.

Israel is lying when they say they are targeting Hezbollah only.

Israel is lying when they said they are attacking as defense.

Israel has been evacuating residents from the north since June. The Lebanese have been predicting war since.

The attack is premeditated murder.

Of course Hamas committed atrocities. Of course Hezbollah should not fire into Israel. But what Israel is doing to Gaza and Lebanon is horrible. And why we call that out is that our tax dollars are funding it.

Arabs are not the enemy.
Persians are not the enemy.
Muslims are not the enemy.
Extremist are the enemy and they reside in Israel too.

I, also Jewish, disagree.

I have close family in Jerusalem and Haifa.

The problem is on 10/8/23, Hezbollah started to fire rockets and missions into Israel. The day after Hamas attacked.

Israel did not bomb Gaza until 10/13 and attack on the ground until 10/27.


So why did Hezbollah shoot missiles into Israel on 10/8.

It’s because they are Terrorists. Hezbollah control all factions of the Lebanese government. Hezbollah is essentially Lebanon. You can’t separate them.


So after me enduring one year of misdialed from Hezbollah. Israel has every right to attack them them back and destroy Hezbollah.

The fact you are defending a terrorist group who has killed Americans and will cheer when many more die, is insane.

The bolded are NOT TRUE.

Israel started bombing Gaza on 10/7, shortly after the start of the Hamas attack.

By 10/8, hundreds of Palestinians had been killed in Gaza, including many, children and women. Entire multi-story residential buildings in Gaza had been destroyed by then.

Also, Hezbollah did not fire rockets into Israel on 10/8. They fired into the area known as Shebaa Farms.

Both Syria and Lebanon consider Shebaa farms as Lebanese territory. Shebaa Farms is NOT considered Israel by almost the entire world.

In response, Israel fired into Lebanon and wounded several people. Therefore, Israel fired into Lebanon BEFORE Hezbollah fired rockets into Israel. They fired into what almost the entire world view as occupied territory that is not a part of Israel.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/gaza-strip-suffers-deadliest-day-15-years-after-hamas-attack-2023-10-08/
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-strikes-lebanon-after-hezbollah-hits-shebaa-farms-2023-10-08/

The situation with Shebaa Farms is more complicated than you’re making it out to be.

The U.N. certified the border. Lebanon and Syria claim its Lebanese territory, but the UN did certify the Israeli pullout.

UN certified the withdrawal of Israel from Lebanese territory in 2000. But the UN did not state that the Shebaa Farms area is a part of Israel, and they have never stated that it is Israel. The UN views the land as Syrian; Syria and Lebanon view it as Lebanon.

I don't think anybody besides Israel and the US, view it as Israel.

Any statement that Hezbollah fired into Israel on 10/8 or that Hezbollah fired into Israel before Israel fired into Lebanon is incorrect. Because Shebaa Farms is not Israel. It is only true from the Israeli perspective. But the UN and Lebanon have a different perspective on what land is considered Israel.

FFS, why are you even indulging this mouth breather with "Lebanon and Syria think it belongs to Syria" talk? It's NOT Israel. It's Syrian land. International law dictates that it's not Israel's land, nor will it ever be recognized by the international community as part of Israel.

Next!

Sounds like it also won’t ever be considered Lebanese land.

So Hezbollah can’t have been justified in striking Shebaa Farms, under your logic.

Hezbollah is a non-state entity, right? They don’t represent Lebanon.

Regardless, Israel has no legitimate right to respond to military acts that don’t involve their own territory, or even that involve their own citizens on foreign soil. Doing so means THEY initiated acts of war by responding with rocket and mission activity into Lebanon, and they should be treated by the U.S. like we treat Russian incursions into Ukraine, no different.

Comparing Hezbollah to Ukraine is ridiculous.

Hezbollah’s entire goal is to destroy Israel. They’ve targeted Israel incessantly, including during ceasefire periods.

In contrast, Ukraine has done absolutely nothing to provoke Russia.

It’s not so simple either way. Yes Hezbollah’s goal is to eliminate Israel. But Israel is attacking Lebanon not just Hezbollah.

And Hezbollah’s rockets are indiscriminate. It goes both ways.

Comparing Hezbollah rockets to Israel’s attacks is like comparing an arrow to an assault rifle

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Israel needs to start being called a terror state. They’re in the terror yacht. Hezbollah is still on the raft

Huh?? Hezbollah is massively well armed.