Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

[Anonymous]

we all have and nothing ever happens so now only place is here to warn other families

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:we all have and nothing ever happens so now only place is here to warn other families

just saying - maybe it's not that big of a deal? Do you recognize how dirty high level youth sports is in this country? You need to pick your battles and if multiple authorities were fine, maybe that's just how it is at this level? I saw all the SC posts here and was shocked and told he must be some monster, but he seemed totally fine in the times we played against him.

[Anonymous]

Both of SC’s younger teams had the option to get a new coach this year and they requested to keep him. That’s a fact and anything else you hear here is self serving indignation.

Yes, he is too much at times and no, he’s not for everybody. Nothing he says or does is unusual in youth soccer coaching, I’ve seen the same type of coach on the sidelines numerous times over the years. Doesn’t mean it’s ok, just in line with old school culture.

Those who don’t find him a good fit for their child, have left and are complaining on this blog. The rest are staying and want to continue to work with him instead of someone else.

Attending practice and games is the only way to see and decide if this coach is good for your child, everything else on here is garbage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both of SC’s younger teams had the option to get a new coach this year and they requested to keep him. That’s a fact and anything else you hear here is self serving indignation.

Yes, he is too much at times and no, he’s not for everybody. Nothing he says or does is unusual in youth soccer coaching, I’ve seen the same type of coach on the sidelines numerous times over the years. Doesn’t mean it’s ok, just in line with old school culture.

Those who don’t find him a good fit for their child, have left and are complaining on this blog. The rest are staying and want to continue to work with him instead of someone else.

Attending practice and games is the only way to see and decide if this coach is good for your child, everything else on here is garbage.

Good post

[Anonymous]

I think it’s, frankly, sad if you think it’s normal to have a random ECNL coach express concern for the players well being based on what he saw and heard (St. Louis), tell 11/12 year old girls they’re pathetic and a disgrace to themselves and their families, scream at little girls to get off the field if they’re not playing to his standard, and on and on.

This is everything that’s wrong with youth sports and shouldn’t be normalized or tolerated. Obviously some people like you do or he wouldn’t be still be there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s, frankly, sad if you think it’s normal to have a random ECNL coach express concern for the players well being based on what he saw and heard (St. Louis), tell 11/12 year old girls they’re pathetic and a disgrace to themselves and their families, scream at little girls to get off the field if they’re not playing to his standard, and on and on.

This is everything that’s wrong with youth sports and shouldn’t be normalized or tolerated. Obviously some people like you do or he wouldn’t be still be there.

Heard chick fila was bought for entire team to apologize for being an ass all season…SMH

[Anonymous]

That’s all a 12 year needs to get over it. You’re all pathetic.

-SC

[Anonymous]

Haha, other teams got the treat too. But spin it why not, pathetic indeed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both of SC’s younger teams had the option to get a new coach this year and they requested to keep him. That’s a fact and anything else you hear here is self serving indignation.

Yes, he is too much at times and no, he’s not for everybody. Nothing he says or does is unusual in youth soccer coaching, I’ve seen the same type of coach on the sidelines numerous times over the years. Doesn’t mean it’s ok, just in line with old school culture.

Those who don’t find him a good fit for their child, have left and are complaining on this blog. The rest are staying and want to continue to work with him instead of someone else.

Attending practice and games is the only way to see and decide if this coach is good for your child, everything else on here is garbage.

+1. I was around him for 2 years and nothing he does is different than what hordes of coaches in multiple sports have done forever. Only difference is that he’s coaching girls, and some people seem to think girls should be treated more gently than boys. The girls and parents who don’t like his approach leave, the rest stay and learn from him. He’s had his 2008s for four years I believe and many of those girls could play anywhere; why would they stay if he’s such a terrible coach, and who would know better than them? Don’t tell me it’s because there’s no other option in MoCO, because at that point in their youth soccer journey those kids are committing a lot more than a long commute. Perfectly fine if he’s not your cup of tea, but no need for you to decide for others.

[Anonymous]

A red flag for me was when my son was offered a $500/month starter spot at Bethesda Soccer Club. After we declined—opting for a club where he could play with high school classmates and carpool for convenience—the coaches never responded. Not even a simple “good luck.” Just silence. Very rude.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A red flag for me was when my son was offered a $500/month starter spot at Bethesda Soccer Club. After we declined—opting for a club where he could play with high school classmates and carpool for convenience—the coaches never responded. Not even a simple “good luck.” Just silence. Very rude.

Can you give more details on the monthly plan offer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A red flag for me was when my son was offered a $500/month starter spot at Bethesda Soccer Club. After we declined—opting for a club where he could play with high school classmates and carpool for convenience—the coaches never responded. Not even a simple “good luck.” Just silence. Very rude.

fake news. you're miserable

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Both of SC’s younger teams had the option to get a new coach this year and they requested to keep him. That’s a fact and anything else you hear here is self serving indignation.

Yes, he is too much at times and no, he’s not for everybody. Nothing he says or does is unusual in youth soccer coaching, I’ve seen the same type of coach on the sidelines numerous times over the years. Doesn’t mean it’s ok, just in line with old school culture.

Those who don’t find him a good fit for their child, have left and are complaining on this blog. The rest are staying and want to continue to work with him instead of someone else.

Attending practice and games is the only way to see and decide if this coach is good for your child, everything else on here is garbage.

+1. I was around him for 2 years and nothing he does is different than what hordes of coaches in multiple sports have done forever. Only difference is that he’s coaching girls, and some people seem to think girls should be treated more gently than boys. The girls and parents who don’t like his approach leave, the rest stay and learn from him. He’s had his 2008s for four years I believe and many of those girls could play anywhere; why would they stay if he’s such a terrible coach, and who would know better than them? Don’t tell me it’s because there’s no other option in MoCO, because at that point in their youth soccer journey those kids are committing a lot more than a long commute. Perfectly fine if he’s not your cup of tea, but no need for you to decide for others.

I agree with you, in part, but I think you’re missing that some of the things he has said and done to 10-13 year olds the past two years, you haven’t directly seen. Maybe it is relevant to people to know he told u12 girls last year they’re a disgrace to themselves and their parents? 5th and 6th graders! Or that he was so out of line in St. Louis that people not affiliated with the club were concerned? Just watching a practice or game doesn’t show you that.

Nobody is deciding for others. But facts are facts. Just cause many 08s tolerated it—and had success—that’s fine for you but it doesn’t mean there haven’t been things that have happened that are relevant for others. Prospective players should do their diligence. Sure this is an anonymous message board. This shouldn’t be your only source. Ask around, try to get good intel. If after all that you are ok with it for your daughter, then that’s fine and your decision. That’s the part I agree with.

Going to one game or practice with SC may give you a glimpse, but it would be a very unwise decision to make simply off of that. I don’t think it’s good advice at all for prospective player parents to ignore all you hear and just focus on the tiny window you see. It’s like the posters who say we played against him once and he wasn’t so bad. These coaches spend hundreds/thousands of hours around the kids. One hour barely tells you anything, especially with some so erratic and temperamental.

Sure, some stuff you hear may be exaggerated or rumors. But there’s a lot of truth and if you do your homework, you can do your own assessment of what’s fifth-hand rumors and what’s not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A red flag for me was when my son was offered a $500/month starter spot at Bethesda Soccer Club. After we declined—opting for a club where he could play with high school classmates and carpool for convenience—the coaches never responded. Not even a simple “good luck.” Just silence. Very rude.

fake news. you're miserable

Of all the things to complain about you complain about them not wishing your kid well? Please don’t post .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If BSC is on the way down… why are there so many girls at the try outs?

Because they have three teams or more per age group. The real question is how many will back out if already committed to Union and if Union will still make families pay the Club dues (which they shouldn't, these are still kids in the end!).

10s and 11s have a real shot at winning the Nat'l Championship if they pick up the best Union players. Nothing will help the 09s, not even Trinity Rodman. 12s could get some much needed help but would have SC...younger age groups will still see parity of kids moving club to club for years.

Delusional - characterized by or holding false beliefs or judgments about external reality that are held despite incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, typically as a symptom of a mental condition.

I don’t think it’s delusional. If the 10s picked up the best from VU, they could be a powerhouse.

11's are closer than the 10s which is why KL stuck with them. 10s are good but Union 10s are better, they are not leaving for this hot mess. Nobody in the DMV is winning an ECNL national championship period. Put our hopes in a potential GA team as region is the best solution if you want to thump your chest about nattys

Ummmmm, VDA 09s have entered the room and strongly disagree. Ranked #2 in the US.

GA is not possible either. FCV days are over. Let's not get anyones hopes up.

Post was not discussing 09s but ok