Bethesda Soccer On Way Down

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

Because most parents are ignorant about the process, like you.

How many times have you and your immediate family members been through 'the process'?

Youth player recruited officially by a European top club academy. Family, all or some, moved to the new country.
Kid gets player card and is on academy team full-time, learns language, schooling etc for a couple years or still there?

Many more times than you. That is for sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

You don't have a player at the level and you're not connected. Sucks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

Because most parents are ignorant about the process, like you.

How many times have you and your immediate family members been through 'the process'?

Youth player recruited officially by a European top club academy. Family, all or some, moved to the new country.
Kid gets player card and is on academy team full-time, learns language, schooling etc for a couple years or still there?

Many more times than you. That is for sure.

You have had many of your kids signed by Cat 1 academies from Division 1 professional European clubs and you're on dcum arguing with ncsl parents like me?

btw Congratulations are in order, because most Europeans can't get one kid into a top level academy but you have multiple

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

You don't have a player at the level and you're not connected. Sucks.

Then 99.9% of us all suck haha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

You don't have a player at the level and you're not connected. Sucks.

Then 99.9% of us all suck haha

True

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

Because most parents are ignorant about the process, like you.

How many times have you and your immediate family members been through 'the process'?

Youth player recruited officially by a European top club academy. Family, all or some, moved to the new country.
Kid gets player card and is on academy team full-time, learns language, schooling etc for a couple years or still there?

Many more times than you. That is for sure.

You have had many of your kids signed by Cat 1 academies from Division 1 professional European clubs and you're on dcum arguing with ncsl parents like me?

btw Congratulations are in order, because most Europeans can't get one kid into a top level academy but you have multiple

I'm not arguing. I know what the hell I'm talking about. You don't

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would be nice to see a list of the 10 or 20 most recent Americans age 16 and older who transferred from here to top levels academies, clubs in Europe

See where they came from. P2P vs MLS Clubs

Of course MLS academies have the better history. MLS is the professional system in the US. What is your point?? That is ONLY because the MLS is controlling the youth player pool in the US. They did this when it introduced MLS next around COVID times. This doesn't mean that MLS academies are the BEST path. Especially at younger ages. Just the one more travelled. If you do what everyone else does, you will be just like everyone else.

Today,if you have a kid at the level, I would spend time trialing at academies in Europe and avoiding MLS academies all together if European football is your goal. Do this with an eye to transfer around u13-u14 when the stakes are lower. If you have the ability to move and/or fall into a FIFA exception on transfers, going to a MLS academy only complicates your move. If you can't move or don't fall into an exception, your goal should be highest level you can play in the US and that usually is MLS academies, which is what most kids at the level do because they just follow everyone else. Just realize that the MLS system isn't geared toward developing you into a European footballer. It is geared toward developing players for the MLS where the quality of play and skill level is lower than European leagues.

MLS academies are the top level of football in our country so of course they have power. But because they are demanding money now for transfers, the bar has risen for an international transfer and European clubs have taken note and reacted accordingly. Cavan Sullivan is the best example of this.

Surely you jest.

MLS Clubs are sending the most players to European clubs but they are not the best path is your statement.
Make that make sense.

How do us Americans just go trialing at top academies in Europe at 12, 13 and 14 years old?
Just showup and knock at the gate?

There are less than 30 MLS club academies and they're send the most players to Europe
How do they control the US player pool when by numbers they're clearly the minority?

Doesn't MLS Next clubs and ECNL have vast more numbers of players than the professional academies?

You don't have a player at the level and you're not connected. Sucks.

Then 99.9% of us all suck haha

Harsh reality but a reality nonetheless...

[Anonymous]

The last 10 pages should have been an entirely new thread. Really interesting topic but no idea why it's in "Bethesda soccer on way down."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The last 10 pages should have been an entirely new thread. Really interesting topic but no idea why it's in "Bethesda soccer on way down."

This exactly! Agree it's an interesting topic, but this is not the thread for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The last 10 pages should have been an entirely new thread. Really interesting topic but no idea why it's in "Bethesda soccer on way down."

This exactly! Agree it's an interesting topic, but this is not the thread for it.

Maybe ask the mod to lock it or move the last 10 pages to a new thread?